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Renouncing the JavaScript

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-11 20:15

I was a regular P.R.O.G. reader in 2009–2010. At that time JavaScript was a joke consigned to troll posts by morons like Frozen2BUo.

In 2012 I returned and found JavaScript being taken seriously. What has happened, /prog/? Have you all lost your minds?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-11 20:20

>>1
It's one kike forcing the ``kikescript meme''. Ignore him.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-11 20:35

How can you refer to Frozenvoid as a moron, when he accomplished all of the following:
1. Proved that 0.999... <> 1
2. Created the only known infinite-compression algorithm
3. Created a self-aware AI that shit-spammed /prog/ for a day or two, making it unusable

Thats more than the average /prog/lodyte accomplishes in a lifetime!

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-11 20:54

3. Created a self-aware AI that shit-spammed /prog/ for a day or two, making it unusable

what
when

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-11 20:55

Everyone who knows anything about anything left ages ago. That's the problem with troll posts, especially in an anonymous environment: eventually nobody remembers they're troll posts. New people imitate them thinking they're genuine, and eventually all you have is the new people, who are idiots.

4chan.txt

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-11 21:02

>>4
exactly

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-11 21:12

>>1
There's only one fag that fall to the hype, and post annoying threads about Javascript.

On the other side, i don't find Javascript that bad. My rationale is: hey, it could be worse.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-11 21:16

>>3
>for a day or two

i'm pretty sure it's still running to this day
see, >>1-99999999

also let's see...
Linux linux

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-11 21:32

>>8
learn to quote imageboard-san

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-11 21:37

>>7
I enjoy JavaScript and I'm glad we can talk about something other than C and LISP all the time.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-11 21:57

>>3
1. Waving your arms and shouting like a retard does not constitute proof.
2. There are plenty of other non-working ``infinite compression" algorithms.
3. That happens every couple weeks.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-11 22:01

>>11
How can you refer to >>3 as a retard, when he accomplished all of the following:
1. Trolling the fuck out of you
2. Getting your panties in a wad
3. Created a clever troll post that made you respond to it, wasting your time

Thats more than the average Frozenvoid accomplishes in a lifetime!

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-11 22:10

>>12
Take a reading comprehension class, Pierre.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-11 22:45

>>13
I was [u]on[sub]ly[sub][/u] pretending to be retarded.

Yeah, right, Erb.

Name: VIPPER 2012-10-11 22:52

>>1
back then most people like you (aka lamers) used to believe that LISP was actually useful for something, when you realized about the truth a new hype came: le 3l1t0rs antiseminists from cat-v
now ``cool'' people use C and hates OOP

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-11 22:53

>>15
fuck off fagcock

Name: LISP 2012-10-11 23:39

LISP

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-11 23:52

>>15
hey could you stop using that name since you aren't VIP at all

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 0:06

>>18
>>>/DaddyCool/

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 0:13

>>19
Back to /cheezburger network/, please.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 3:01

javascript is still a joke to drones who are afraid of the freedom of dynamic typing and the power of the lambda.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 3:16

1. v8 has made js the fastest dynamic language. within 3x of C
2. browsers are adding typed arrays, canvas/svg, webworkers, and webworkers allowing for some really cool stuff to be made.
3. after 20 years, python still doesnt have a decent networking library. It's easier to write a webserver in C. joyent notices that 99% of software is moving to servers, decides to write a system that embraces this model of tiny services that talk to each other, rather than monolithic frameworks. system cleanly exposes unix API. No object oriented gobbledygook like in twisted, and no monkey patching like in gevent. Huge benefit is that you can now move functionality from client to server. Sharing even 10% of your codebase makes it hugely more productive than any other language. If you want to render on the client for half your users using fast PCs, and on the server for people on windows xp/phones, you don't have to maintain two separate codebases and keep them consistent.

I was always a backend algorithms+systems guy but I have to admit I'm excited about javascript. feel free to call me a hipster or a n00b or whatever.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 3:19

Wait, you mean the JavaScript shitposter was being serious?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 3:56

sexp->js
Then I can use node again

Name: DQN 2012-10-12 9:34

>>18-san you dont know fuck about my VIP status, I could hax your anus anytime with all my bbcode and unicode power ;)

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 9:41

>>22
1. v8 has made js the fastest dynamic language. within 3x of C
no

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 9:57

>>26
http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=gcc&lang2=v8

pretty good for a 4 year old compiler
and with typed arrays and web workers, you have fast custom datastructures and threads+message passing. javascript GOTYAY

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 10:18

>>27
Have you seen the kind of code the JavaScript benchmarks programs use? It might as well be C. Also, JavaScript is slightly impressive in single-threaded benchmarks but it isn't anywhere else.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 10:30

>>28
Web Workers will fix that.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 15:27

>>22
Sharing even 10% of your codebase makes it hugely more productive than any other language. If you want to render on the client for half your users using fast PCs, and on the server for people on windows xp/phones, you don't have to maintain two separate codebases and keep them consistent.
HAHAHAHAHA look at him!

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 15:32

>>29
"With enough power, even a brick will fly."
JS is shit, but IT CORPORATIONS pushed this bullshit too far.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 15:56

It is 3x at median, it has a far larger spread than the compiled languages, up to 150x:
http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/which-programs-are-fastest.php

And ``scripting'' languages like this is fucking shit when even a single typo gives you halting problem-tier bugs, even Scheme at least expects you to define variables. I'd rather compile from a serious language (like Haskell) to JS than deal with JS directly for anything involving more than 300 lines.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 16:03

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 16:36

>>30
prove me wrong faggot. being able to move and share code between server and client is way bigger than abstract data types or macros or pattern matching or whatever. facebook has 4x more javascript than php. modern clients need data models, routing, rendering and sync code. Good luck trying to maintain two code bases while I iterate twice as fast as you.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 16:54

>>34
Why don't you fuck off back to your local San Francisco Starbucks social startup convention, Sean?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 17:02

The fact that Coffeescript, Dart and Microsoft's TypeScript even exists is proof that writing in JavaScript directly is foolish. Its like writing in x86 assembly. 1-2-3 at its peak was written directly in x86 assembly, where is it now? Code written in JavaScript itself will eventually be undone in a similar fashion.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 19:10

>>10
FIOC, Perl and sepples are more interesting than JavaScript.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 20:28

>>33
Lol. If there's one thing that JavaScript has proved once and for all, it's that static typing is dead. Haskell is a joke and Java is finally on its way to dying. The next 10–15 years will be all dynamically typed languages, bet on it bro.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 20:29

>>38
Yeah and we will have 10GHz CPUs and flying cars in 2010

Source: The 90's

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 20:44

>>38
dynamic typing is inherently SLOW

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 20:45

>>38
>dynamic typing for performance critical systems
>offloading type resolution and dispatch to runtime
>constantly wasting limited CPU cycles and energy on something that could have been performed once by the compiler and programmer(s)
>contributing excessively to the entropic degradation of the Universe

You aren't a very responsible programmer if you use dynamically typed languages for applications and systems that have a large user base.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 20:58

>>41
>excessive use of meme arrows
>wasting /prog/ time
>consuming precious oxygen and water

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 21:07

>>41-42
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Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 21:13

>>41
fuck off to le imagereddits, dicksniffer

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 23:09

>>40
maybe in benchmarks. but dynamic typing allows faster iteration, and thus more focus on optimization when it is needed. The same is true for GC, and why java has found to be faster that c++ in most of google's codebase.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 23:10

>>39
flying cars = plane
faster cpus = more instructions per cycle rather than higher clock speeds

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 23:11

>>36
can't handle the truth

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-12 23:13

>>46
dynamic typing = more people using C

Name: IT'S ALL RICE❕ 2012-10-13 6:58

>>1
Cancer happened to the big corporations. In other to keep their jobs, they are implementing buggy and crashy applications on both server side and client side shit to forever make a ``quick,, bug fix and maintain work. It's that money making secret, make the problem, have the fix for the problem, charge 3x the amount to create the problem-solution market. There is an old word for this, but I cannot seem to recall it. It comes from the name of that guy in Rome that would hire people to burn houses, and when the owners of the land sold they land, he would buy them, construct another wooden house on top, and sell it a 3 times the original value, promising lies with a special "wax."

>>7,10,29
I hate you.

>>15
Have you optimized your life today?

>>22,27
Someone is is bad at math. Here is a hint:
N CPU time of language XNToX
K CPU time of language Y‾‾‾‾KToY

 If NToX > KToY; KToY takes less time than than NToX. IOW, KToY is faster.
>>22
2) Why do you want to reinvent the compost again?
3) You just do not know how to look for libraries, or worse you do not how to build your own. Have you even developed anything? You do not read like you have.

>>29
Now you know!

>>33
That wounded me.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-31 13:19


Uh, there were only two infodumps, and the majority of the story was non-infodump. The 'angst' is called drama. If that's how you viewed Michiru route, I'm guessing you didn't feel attached to the characters at all, in which case it only makes sense that you don't enjoy a charage.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-31 14:04


 my god this is bugged as fuck

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-31 14:49



It could have been something great if it went for something like 30-35 episodes. I can't see how a chiru adaption would work since it has a lot to do with the narration and naturally an anime wouldn't have that. I would like to see EP5 animated though, even if it's butchered by DEEN.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-31 15:34


Finally, I have beaten all the Miracle Party Plus dungeons (without counting the 99F version you get after beating some of the hard ones).

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