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AI is SHIT

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-11 20:48

Hey! Look! It's even possible to teach dog human speech...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEtvcsqGipo

but you cant teach a computer. You programming sucks. AI is shit. McCarthey is shit. Minsky is shit. MIT is shit. Go fuck yourself.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-11 20:55

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-GgrxmgPiY
It really only took two days to teach him.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-11 23:35

but you cant teach a computer
Siri.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-12 0:06

>>3
back to macrumors

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-12 2:33

AI A SHIT

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-12 3:40

forgetting google sentience
2012
ISHYGDDT

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-12 4:04

>>6
sentience
I love it when retards use a fancy word to name some rubbish.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-12 5:05

>>7
I love it when illiretards think words like ``sentience'' are fancy.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-12 6:22

>>8
Take Ruby for example. It has a fancy name for a crap of a language. While C/C++ has ugly name right in your fucking face.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-12 19:00

teaching computers speech

Last I heard, nobody seems to have taken into account how sounds are made up of frequencies, or that our ears work by splitting those sounds into their component frequencies IN REAL TIME. Or how that makes it so much easier to decode sounds.

Or the upshot: That sounds (like, say, speech) are best constructed by isolating which sounds are made up of which frequencies. And then putting those frequencies together. In the right amount, and in the right order.

Rather than fiddling around with sampling tech from 1980.


Acquiring artificial intelligence, step one: Ditch natural stupidity.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-12 22:08

>>10
Great idea! We just need to build a microphone that picks up 100 different frequencies seperately and then our software will magically parse these 100 inputs into natural language!

Because a billion different tiny components is easier to understand, right? Just look at how easy it is to parse text and analyze images!

Also checkem.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-13 5:01

>>10
Dog's ears, brain and vocal apparatus werent designed to decode and produce human speech. Just because dog's brain is general enough to learn a new information to get the snacks.

Now if you start breeding the dogs based on their human speech recognition, after a few generations you will get a breed of dogs capable of human speech. You cant do that with modern computer science.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-13 6:40

Now if you start breeding the dogs based on their human speech recognition, after a few generations you will get a breed of dogs capable of human speech
So your ideal candidate is that dog on Youtube who growls out "I rove you?"

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-13 6:44

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-13 7:27

>>14
doesnt work.

>>13
a good starting point. and you can get funding from these old ladies who need an animal companion.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-13 7:43

Speech recognition has nothing to do with AI. Genetic programming isn't AI either.

AI is just a weasel word for fancy algorithms which promise to thing we don't have enough processing power for yet.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-13 8:15

>>16
i.e. it is a buzzword, Jews use to get investor's money for some unrelated astronomy project.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-14 22:09

>>11
Somebody never heard about DSPs.
Also, apples and oranges. There's a gadzillion ways to obfuscate what a picture shows (angle, distance, rotation, tint, obstacles, etc) ─ with sounds (once you separate the component frequencies) it's basically just signal vs noise.


>>16
From the looks of it, AI would ease speech recognition considerably. And that's a statement I'll hold to be wrong _after_ somebody actually proves it wrong, not before.

Name: Conspiracy Theories 2012-08-15 3:00

OP, I think you need to pray to god, and submit a bug report:
http://www.titane.ca/

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-15 4:01

                                                            `
>implying ``teaching'' isnt programming
>implying neural networks arent code as data
>implying this dog was actually ``taught'' human speech recognition and not PROGRAMMED to respond to the phonetic sounds of a single phrase from a specific voice with its mimicry of the same string of sounds
>implying this dog has even a nuance of a clue of what said string means
>implying that if she said ``i hate you'' in the same tone that it wouldnt respond the same exact way
>implying it taking 2 days to ``learn'' isnt slower than ruby on rails implemented in the java virtual machine

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-15 4:12

>>20
Who are you quoting?

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-15 4:15

>>23
What dubs are you checking?

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-15 5:01

>>22
>>33-san's.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-15 17:07

OOooh AI

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-15 18:35

>>20
Care to go back to /g/, ``please"?

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-15 21:18

>>25
Sure, once I ever go there in the first place, which'll be long after you go the fuck back to le >>>/r/hackernews/.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-15 21:22

>>26
>>>
Back to the imageboards.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-15 21:33

>>26
You gave yourself away with the >>>.

Well, it's not like your obnoxious writing style didn't give you away already.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-15 21:36

>>27
heh, i actually invented the '>>>' thing. i find it quite disturbing that a site as big as 4chan actually uses it. i'm very sorry for unleashing such a horrible idea upon the world.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-15 21:58

>>29
fuck off back to /r/fagstorms

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-15 22:24

>>27
>>28
Irony is I've been here longer than anyone. Even MVB.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-15 22:29

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-15 22:40

>>31
epic irony /b/ro

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-16 0:48

>>32
Thanks for the link to your homepage, but you're a little lost, you should click the home button to return to it.
>>33
u /g/o /g/url

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-16 0:57

>>34
home button
Sorry, I don't use Internet Explorer. You must have confused me with one of your desktop thread buddies on /g/. Go back there, please.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-16 2:30

>>35
Sure will do, but it's gonna take me a bit, do me a favor and make your way there and let them know I'm on my way. While you're there you should really poke around and consider settling in.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-16 21:03

>>31-36
Guys, this is getting stupid.

Why don't we all go back to Reddit?

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-16 22:34

>>37
No, it's just starting to get really good.
You can go back there though, I've been here before Reddit even existed and have never gone there.
Until you all go the fuck back there, my work here isn't gonna be done.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-16 22:43

>>16

Speech recognition will end up needing AI if it ever wants to get the level of the average human in correct recognition. A lot of words sound almost the same, and the phonemes in many cases get changed drastically due to idiosyncrasy in pronunciation. The brain does not process speech in real time in the sense that it just listens to the phonemes and compares them against the set of all possible phonemes and then matches them to a semantic understanding. No, that would make us catatonic. It uses highlighted conditioning to register the phonemes used in the language, and then combines them with a semantic understanding of the current context, to create a predictive analysis model for parsing speech. If you've ever noticed that when you're not paying attention / expecting a certain word it's very hard to make out what someone says if you lost the beginning of the word, because then the brain has to switch context, in a sense a "missed branch", and has to evaluate the running context and check against many more phoneme / semantic pairs. That's why almost all speech processing models of today that are the most accurate are trained over certain sets of words with certain intonations, and the model has to be trained for new pronunciations, no one model even now works on an unlimited domain in English. If you mention words it doesn't know it won't piece them together from the pronunciation, it'll just try a closest case scenario, since it does not "understand" what is being said, as in, it has no grasp on semantics, where humans know that an unrecognized word is probably a new word, and they're able to reconstruct it using phoneme pairs. Computers cannot recognize new words without an NLP model.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-16 22:48

>>39
It sounds like a naive bays predictor would provide that well.

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