/prog/ - Which language should I learn first?

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-28 8:49

Tell me

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-28 12:30

Assembly and then C (only to realize how shitty C is so that you can move on to a real high level language)

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-28 13:43

javascript and then stop

you don't need anything else. by 2015 it will be your only choice anyway, since everything will be inside the browser

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-28 13:50

>>13
Lel, someone will need to write the server software.

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-28 15:32

>>14
node.js

u mad?

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-28 15:39

>>15

BAM BAM BAM
JOHN WAYNE I AM

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-28 16:11

>>5
-_-
Learn how not to be a ``fagstorm"

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-28 17:10

>>13,14
OS is a browser.
Widgets and apps scripted in JS, with xml-based forms (qt, gtk and win).
JS has already taken server-side too (node.js, meteor got $14M).

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-29 5:43

>>18
Yes, that would indeed be the ultimate nightmare.

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-29 6:14

>>18
This is what I DON'T want to see. A poorly designed language combined with shitty SGML-based markup to half-ass reimplement widgets that have normal native counterparts using CSS styling hacks. The Age of Enlightenment Indeed.

Plus, you're suggesting we then use the same shit language as the backbone for the servers. Lovely.

I feel like anything gained in systems programming in the last 30 years is all going down the drain to be replaced with bloated fuckery like this.

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-29 8:13

>>20
HTML5 is not based on SGML.

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-29 10:17

>>21
Check my ~~dubz~~ sage field.

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-29 12:15

I want to be a musician, which instrument should I get?

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-29 12:46

>>23
An Edirol SD-90.

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-29 12:51

>>24
Thanks, I wouldn't have been able to become a musician without your help. I'm already starting to feel more like a musician.

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-29 14:06

>>21
I'll have to look into that, but I still see no reason for forcing mock UIs to be the norm in a document markup language. There really needs to be a simplified UI language put in place for interacting with a generic UI toolkit that the browser provides (that uses native widgets).

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-29 17:00

Really I wanna make yet another standard.

(doc (title "Programming")

      (menu "Style:"

            (link "Yotsuba" "#") ","

            (link "Pseud0ch" "#") ","

            (link "Terminal" "#")

            "Navigation:"

            (combo "Text Boards"

                   ((anime "/anime/ - Anime & Manga")

                    (book "/books/ - Books")

                    (carcom "/carcom/ - Comics & Cartoons")))

            (combo "Image Boards"

                   ((a "/a/ - Anime & Manga")

                    (b "/b/ - Random")

                    (c "/c/ - Anime/Cute"))))

      (threads ((link "1: Search Engines (8)" "http://dis.4chan.org/prog/#1")

                (link "2: Good fonts for programming (54)" "http://dis.4chan.org/prog/#2")))

      (thread (link "[1:8] Search Engines" "http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1343591446/1-40")

              (list ("1" "Anonymous" "2012-07-29 15:50"

                         "What with google being run by jews who want all of the information, I need to switch search engines. Please only post search engines NOT run by jews.")

                    ("8" "Anonymous" "2012-07-29 16:32"

                         ">>6 You'll be consuming their service without paying their adsense back."))

              (form "4chan.org/post"

                    (input text-field "Name")

                    (input mail-field "Email")

                    (input submit-button "Reply")

                    (input wall-of-text "9"))))

;; And so forth...

Damn, Lisp may be a joke, but it's really easier to write and parse than XML or HTML...

Name: >>27 2012-07-29 17:06

Missing a quote.
You can translate every pair of () to divs, and the symbols to CSS classes... Not much different than the usual pile of ~~shit~~ HTML.
I've always tried to make work colleagues give a chance to xml+xlst, but now I surrender... to lisp.

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-29 21:53

Racket's servlets uses this kind of notation exclusively for its output format, though the head symbol of every list is always the HTML element, it wouldn't be hard to expand non-html names to `(div ((class ,name)) . ,rest) with a substitution function.

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-29 22:10

>>27
My dick is telling me to implement this.

Please don't tempt me like that, >>27-san. It's bad for my health.

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-29 22:13

>>27
No need to parse-replace it to anything, just define the functions in a Lisp of your choice and give it that as the input.
Using Lisp sexps to generate HTML is nothing new.

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-29 22:13

>>27
XML is not hard to parse.

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-29 22:15

>>32
Namespaces, defining entities, XSLT, ...
Indeed, it's far beyond merely ``hard'' to parse.

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-29 22:18

>>32
Computers don't have any inconvenient parsing XML, but my eyes do.

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-30 1:45

I should write a Javascript-to-native-code compiler. Then rewrite the fucking thing in Javascript, compile that, and thus have a self-hosting Javascript compiler in Javascript! Hipsters will just line up to suck my dick.

I will have then achieved true ~~satori~~ shit-tier.

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-30 2:18

>>35
please give me your address

have your pants down by the time i get there thanks

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-30 5:38

>>32

Totals grouped by language (dominant language first):

ansic:       174951 (93.10%)

python:       11819 (6.29%)

sh:             578 (0.31%)

php:            367 (0.20%)

lisp:            84 (0.04%)

perl:            67 (0.04%)

awk:             48 (0.03%)



Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC)                = 187,914

188kLoC in libxml2. Yep, trivial.

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI!FBeUS42x4uM+kgp 2012-07-30 6:00

>>37
http://tibleiz.net/asm-xml/
~5600 lines--- of x86 asm.

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-30 6:18

>>38
Not conform
AsmXml does not supports namespaces and external entity references.
The file has to be fully loaded into memory
You can't parse a file over 4Gb.

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-30 19:21

i dont know why you guys hate on javascript it basically powers the web seems lkie most other stuff is just legacy (assembly)

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-30 19:27

>>40
Javascript is shit

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-30 20:13

>>40
-1/10
Try harder.

Or else show me the JS machine you've made

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-30 21:13

>>42
he's from /g/ and so are you

you both should fuck off

Name: Anonymous 2012-07-31 5:49

you all should check em

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