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EXORCISING THE PIMPLEFACED SHITLORDS

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-24 15:13

This board is fucking infested with mysoginist, racist, ableist  neckbeards. You middle-class white male idiots (the idiot property is independent of the other properties, before you get your balls in a twist.)

I'm a middle-class able-bodied white male too, but that doesn't mean I can't look around me and plainly see how my life is easier than racialized people, females, those of a lower economic status, or disabled people.

Holy FUCK you are some sheltered morons, who have so much privilege to nutrition and education, but APPARENTLY YOU HAVEN'T USED ANY OF THAT PRIVILEGE, BECAUSE YOUR CRITICAL-THINKING ABILITIES ARE FUCKING ATROPHIED.

Why aren't we discussing programming, god damnit. Go back to /r9k/

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-25 1:51

>>42
Again, you are bringing a persecution complex into this.
Would you like me to make a statistical study over what percentage of people will interpret ,,privilege'' as blaming them personally?  I bet it's going to be most of them.

Privilege is an abstraction that describes patterns in society. That is all.
Why is it useful?  I've pointed out why I think it's a harmful abstraction, please point out why you think it's a good (therefore useful) abstraction.  I fail to see how studying privilege (as opposed to actual discrimination) is useful.

I'm sorry that you are afraid of other people being able to analyze society.
No, I'm afraid more and more people will misinterpret privilege and wage a war on the ,,privileged'' to ,,even things out''.  Idiotic things like restrictions on freedom of expression, so-called ,,affirmative action'', and eventually discrimination against the perceived ,,privileged'' are what I fear.  I know human stupidity has no boundaries, and this is why I fear.

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-25 3:17

>>46
You can be blamed for reinforcing the system that grants yourself privilege and excludes others.
That's called discrimination.  I fail to foresee a situation in which one is reinforcing the system that grants one privilege and excludes others while not acting in a discriminatory manner.

And you can be blamed for being ignorant of your own privilege.
Nobody is stupid enough not to realize someone else is having a harder time than them (strictly using the definition of privilege, this is what it boils down to).

Many people use the fallacy, it was easy for me, so it must be for you, without realizing their own privilege.
I'm sure there's ways of explaining such an obvious fallacy without uttering the word ,,privilege''.

Any abstraction is useful in analyzing the phenomena they describe. It is useful as an individual to simply be aware of how the world works. I suppose you would question the usefulness of physics if it happened to be controversial enough for you to take offense from it.
You still didn't answer my request to point out why the notion of privilege is useful.  Give a non-bullshit (this excludes shit like ,,oh my, someone just posted a discriminatory joke on IRC, off with their fucking head!'') example where ,,privilege'' is required to explain why something is unjust but where discrimination is not involved.

But all I hear from you is that you have power and you fear losing it.
Correct, I have the power to make anus and discriminatory jokes on anonymous message boards in an environment where almost? everyone knows that I am indeed joking.  I would hate it if, for the sake of ,,countering cisgender heterosexual white male privilege'', feminists were out to shut down such a safe haven for non-politically-correct amusement.  Did I mention that I am a rude individual (at least on the Internet, where nobody knows you're a dog) and hate everything political correctness stands for (crypto-anarchists tend to hate censorship, even when self-imposed)?  Whenever I feel cold in winter, I just go to the incident list page on geekfeminism and my blood boils instantly (complaining about a FOSS document that uses ,,he'' too much instead of just editing it yourself so it uses ,,one'' or ,,they''? fuck you and die).

If that is the case, you may as well burn books.
I'll be content with just warning stickers saying that absolute freedom of speech is the most important right, and that the right not to be offended does not exist.

And please sage because this is not programming related.
Fine.

On a related note; I find privilege checklists to be a retarded meme.  See [ http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1339288465/57 ].

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-26 2:50

>>58
Indeed. I'm not the wypmp spammer, although I thought it was funny.
I thought it was irritating, more than the jew spam (which itself is fairly hard to beat).

But the teacher wont be able to make this evaluation without awareness of the student's past and understanding that not all schools are equal. And likewise, the underprivileged student may attribute their relatively slower progress to lack of talent or ability, when in reality, the student may be exposed to concepts that the others have been already working with for a number of years.
Bah, the education system needs an overhaul anyway, stuff like this being part of the reason.  It's hard to assign grades if you don't have standardized testing, but I suppose you could use the delta between tests throughout the year to determine the amount of growth and then grade based on that.  Or something like that.  I'd rather leave education reform to child psychologists.

The type of stuff you see on geek feminism does exist though. There are people that do argue those things.
I don't always agree that what they perceive as sexist is actually sexist, and whenever that happens, my blood boils.  See:
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Acme::Playmate_talk
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Debian_IRC_sexism
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Linux_Journal_blowjob_ad
In the case of the Debian IRC incident, I do agree that the official Debian IRC channel should be inclusive to everyone (it's just technical talk about a computer project after all) and that a separate unmoderated ##debian-offtopic channel should be used for off-colour and discriminatory jokes, and idle chat.  In fact, this should be the case for almost every official IRC channel.

Some (most) would go further to say that it should be censored and banned.
And this is why I want to fuck them in the ass with a rake.  I cannot stress enough how idiotic this is.  Seriously, free speech is what allowed us to get this far.  It is fundamental for me to know that I can make any kind of violent, discriminatory or political joke without any fear of repercussions.

What is your stance on pornography?  Mine is that the only war to be fought there is for ensuring equitable pay (as well as health services, etc.) for the involved females (which should be, needless to say, consenting).  I strongly believe in a ,,right to pornography'', and that banning it is an affront to the right to do-whatever-the-fuck-you-want-as-long-as-you're-not-hurting-anyone (this goes both for the viewers and the producers).

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-26 21:34

>>79
No, I've had it with you.  Your endless stream of illogical diarrhoea (culminating with a display of blatant sexism) has for too long defaced this board and alienated its members.  Not only that, but because you claim to act out of feminist conviction, you have given feminism a bad reputation on countless occasions.  I thereby declare thee unscientific and ultimately destructive.

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-27 1:46

>>82
lewd Although the use of computer vision sounds interesting, if that is what it does.
Now that I think about it, I kind of agree with you since it was an official event.  Had it been some unofficial gathering or something clearly labelled ,,the rude open source programmer conference'', it would have been totally okay with me.

'>expecting IRC to be PC
One would indeed expect an official project IRC channel to avoid discrimination.  Like I said before, the solution is just to create an unmoderated ##debian-offtopic for discriminatory jokes and the sort.

demeaning to both genders.
I found it very humorous because of that.  While one can argue that it is objectifying, it is not directly sexist.  I argue that it's acceptable because the entire point of the joke is to insult the reader (this attractive female will never have sexual relations with you).

I have the same general opinion on how it should be handled in policy, but I feel that it gives some people a very distorted view of women.
Warning labels?  You can't ban something just because some idiots misuse it.

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-27 5:39

>>84
Your air of superiority stinks like VIPPER's diseased anus.  Fuck you and die for you are part of what is wrong with feminism.

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-27 5:45

>>97,99
VIPPER waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were spammers in the /prog/. He didn't see them, but had expected them now for years. His warnings to Cernel RedCram were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.
Vipper was a shitposter for fourteen years. When he was young he watched the shitposters and he said to dad "I want to be on the /prog/ daddy."
Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY SPAMMERS"
There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in the spam station base of the 4CH he knew there were spammers.
"This is RedCram" the radio crackered. "You must fight the spammer!"
So VIPPER gotted his sagebmob rifle and blew up the wall.
"HE GOING TO KILL US" said the spammers
"I will troll at him" said the feminist spammer and he fired the WYP missiles. VIPPER plasmaed at him and tried to blew an autistic tantrum. But then the banhammer fell and they were trapped and not able to shitpost.
"No! I must kill the spammers" he shouted
The radio said "No, VIPPER. You are the spammer"
And then VIPPER was a shitposter.

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