Firefox keeps bugs unpatched for over 9 years

To give an example, the annoying "FTP server 215 ... is currently unsupported" message. This lingers from the way the old Mozilla (pre-Firefox) recognized FTP listings.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202730
Unsupported FTP server "xxxxxxx" after login and SYST command
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277827
Unsupported FTP server "ITRON embedded printer OS"
This bug was reported in 2003, with various duplicates since then. They know what's causing the problem. Somebody sent in a patch and they still haven't fixed it. They're more concerned with bumping up the version numbers than a few simple bug fixes.

... And they want to make an OS ...

>>39
This argument doesn't quite work for a web browser.

It's like saying we're on The Open Web^TM so if you're unhappy with that minified, obfuscated JavaScript, you can just change it!

>>39
- Theoretically it's open-source. Practically, forking FF and fixing things isn't easy. If it was as easy as gcc -o firefox firefox.c I would've done it a long time ago. The build environment is a nightmare and if http://www.ohloh.net/p/mozilla/analyses/latest/languages_summary is accurate then I need C, C++, Pascal, Perl AND Python, Modula-2 (WTF!), Visual Basic (WTF!) and a bunch of other shit. (Minirant: stop using obscure scripting languages to do trivial stuff in the build process. Write it in C/C++ or just use whatever scripting language the code started with -- Perl or Python is fine.)
- Why did they even change the UI in a retarded direction in the first place?

>>46
shalom, hymie!

>>46
The point is that the Mozilla team are writing software for a specific audience, and it just so happens that your requirements happen to conflict with theirs. I don't follow the Firefox development team so I have no idea why the team chose to change their UI. What I do know is that you are choosing to act helpless by complaining about Mozilla's software rather than taking control over your own.
Convince the users they don't need something, make them more ignorant and unaware, make them easier to control, erode their freedoms gradually.
Don't be as the helpless people who complain about their proprietary software masters. If you are a free person, you should take responsibility for your own computing and find someone who can help you. Nobody says writing software is easy. If you find it too difficult, you should ask someone for help.

>>48
What I do know is that you are choosing to act helpless by complaining about Mozilla's software rather than taking control over your own.
I have "taken control" already, by refusing to use the newer retarded versions of their product.

Nobody says writing software is easy. If you find it too difficult, you should ask someone for help.
I've been planning my own web browser for a long time. The other thread here about low-resource web browsers shows there are others with the same thoughts. Why there aren't more who want their browser to behave exactly as they want, disturbs me. Instead they fall into the stupid upgrade treadmill lusting for "newer" and get the wool pulled over their eyes by corporations (Mozilla is one) who just want to perpetuate their cycle of fleece-and-sell... even if you're not paying monetarily for their software you're paying with your freedom and sanity.

>>49
What are you talking about? I have never heard of Mozilla using woolen hats or selling any woolen products.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor

>>51
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism

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>>49
Le ``Web'' moves on. The browsers follow. Your Ghettofox 2.0 is noticeably slower and less secure than current version of FF/Chrome/Opera.

And no Cudder, nobody gives a shit about how FF2.0 takes 50MB less of RAM after startup.

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Typical C++ project. It's such a complicated mess that they can't maintain it at all. They can't fix 10-year-old bugs.

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>>63
in what language would you suggest to write a browser? well, i mean its engine. lisp?

>>65
JavaScript.

>>66
Firefox developers should write and test their code on a machine from ~10 years ago with limited memory and CPU power. That would be much better as if they get acceptable performance on such a platform, FF would be bloody fast on a typical machine today. Then they probably wouldn't have such idiotic ideas as writing the bulk of the UI in JS.

Somewhat more relevant bug that is still open (and has been since 2000):
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38966

One of the things that's always irritated me about FF is how difficult it is to configure. about:config is not that much better than editing the text config directly --- how hard is it to make it a treeview, since that's obviously what the config structure is? And as it turns out it does let you set per-site security configs BUT those settings are not even shown in about:config, you MUST edit the text config directly (WTF!) and the work to add a UI for it (IE and Opera had one long ago) "may be the hardest part of the feature to implement" according to them (double WTF!)

http://security.mozdev.org/ <- they started on it, then stopped and it's still "incomplete".

For fucks' sake, what is so bloody hard about making a UI that just manages those settings? If you think that's hard, how in hell have you managed to change the entire goddamn UI and add tons of frivolous bloaty HTML5 support crap over these years? Someone has added a patch for a suggested UI to the bug, but it's not been put in. You often ridicule IE because of its security and advertise your browser's security as superior, but why does security-related stuff like this not get done? "Take back the web" my arse. IE has security config that works, even if not all that well. Mozilla, get your act together.
</rant>

Still waiting, Mozilla.

>>67
So Cudder, how's it going on making your own browser? Or your replacement for Flash? Or any of the things you say you intend to do? Maybe if you didn't spend all your time shitting up /prog/ and /jp/ with your half-assed ideas, you'd get something done.

So Cudder, how's it going on making your own browser? Or your replacement for Flash? Or any of the things you say you intend to do? Maybe if you didn't spend all your time working for the jews with your superior cisc assembly programming, you'd get something done.

So Cudder, how's it going on making your own browser? Or your replacement for Flash? Or any of the things you say you intend to do? Maybe if you didn't spend all your time sucking cock down at the local truck stop, you'd get something done.

So Truck Driver, how's it going on making your own deliveries? Or your replacement for UPS? Or any of the things you say you intend to do? Maybe if you didn't spend all your time getting your dick sucked by Cudder !MhMRSATORI!fR8duoqGZdD/iE5 at the local truck stop, you'd get something done.

2013 is the year of Anonix on the desktop.

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2013 is the year of the snake

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>>69-71
I am busy with a lot of real work to do, unlike you NEETs.

>>77
So busy that you're posting on /prog/?

I think cudder is a pretty egin gro.

>>78
Cudder doesn't post very often.