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Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 7:26

There isn't a single piece of GNU project software that is actually, objectively good. It's usually bloated, spec-deviant or bloody useless.

Examples: coreutils, autoconf

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 7:29

>>1
That is because it was written in C/C++.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 7:30

>>1
Well, that's, just, like, your opinion, man.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 7:45

>>2
False. There are many good software projects written in C. The Plan 9 codebase is completely C, and it is a great example of good code.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 7:51

>>4
The Plan 9
good software

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Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 7:56

>>5
What's the matter? Too much power for you?

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 8:00

>>6
LoseThos is much less bloated system and it does the same thing.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 8:03

>>7
I wasn't aware Tdavis wrote network drivers for that.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 8:04

>>8
Reason writting drivers for an OS, nobody uses anyway?

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 8:20

>>9
I don't know the reason. Somebody compared LoseThos and Plan 9 and I wasn't aware that LoseThos had network drivers.

Name: OP IS A !FAG 2011-12-12 8:54

Emacs

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 10:16

>>1
Actually, GNU RCS is decent.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 10:28

>>1
bloated
You mean "featureful."
spec-deviant
Translation: ``Wahhhh someone in the open source community didn't solve my problem for me''
bloody useless
Back to England, please.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 15:22

Hurd

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 15:24

No software is objectively good.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 15:27

>>15
But The Right Thing is possible.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 15:30

>>13
Featuritis is a form of bloat.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 19:06

>>17
In that case bloat cannot be objective for as long as someone uses those features and is satisfied by it.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 19:35

>>18
someone uses those features
There is always this jewish minority that complicates life for everyone else. Jews will always be unhappy and request more features, even if you give them whole country of features, greedy bitches will complain and demand more!

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 19:41

>>18
A good metric is whether it does what it's supposed to.
For instance, emacs is a text editor. Does it edit text? Yes. Does it need games, a Web browser, a Lisp interpreter, and god knows what else? No. Therefore, it is bloated.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 19:45

>>20
The problem with Emacs is that it is written in C/C++ (a crappy inflexible bloated language, worst of its kind). If Emacs was written in Lisp, there would be no need for standalone interpreter - just expose a simple API for everyone to customize.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 20:05

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Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 20:15

>>22
Your image is of bad quality. Use GIF next time!

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 20:31

>>22`
>JIDF
>implying all jews are pro-Israel

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Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 20:33

implying all jews are pro-Israel
That is exactly what we are talking about: give jews Israel, they'll still be unhappy. You cant make everyone happy, so just cut the fucking bloat out.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 21:32

>>20
No one advertises it as just a text editor, if someone just wants a plain text editor then they should be using ed


GNU Emacs is an extensible, customizable text editor—and more. At its core is an interpreter for Emacs Lisp, a dialect of the Lisp programming language with extensions to support text editing.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-12 23:14

>>25
lol i wonder if they attack websites of jews that are against israel

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-13 20:11

I love ultra-``UNIX philosophy'' types. I knew a guy who would kill processes by piping ps through grep through awk through kill or whatever. He would always mess it up. Meanwhile I'd always use pkill or killall and he'd have an aneurysm about how it wasn't adhering to the ``UNIX philosophy'' and that I should learn to do it ``properly''.

I never understand why idiots make things harder for themselves.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-13 20:12

>>28
Exactly. The Unix philosophy is just a guideline for doing things. If there is a good reason to do it another way, we should be free to do it that way as well.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-13 20:21

>>28
He should have used Lisp, you know, that cool language, that allows you to define your own functions, that can kill anything in any sadistic way you want.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-13 20:23

>>30
And, BTW, Lisp also makes this silly C/C++ obsolete, cause you can write whole OS in Lisp and run it on a hardware, designed using Lisp DSL, instead of their retarded VHDL COBOL mess.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-13 20:29

>>33
nice bro, I checked 'em

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-13 20:32

check 'em

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-13 21:01

What about Octave?

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-13 22:32

>>34
Don't bother. It's a troll thread that has no meaning in the idea being discussed.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-14 2:16

>>34
Still only a pale imitation of the original.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-14 2:57

what is the original?

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-14 4:35

So you're saying that the GNU Compiler Collection's C compiler isn't objectively better than everything else?

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-14 9:13

>>38
It's not objectively better than everything. There are other C compilers that demonstrate better results for a given metric. GNU's C compiler's strength is in its architectural platform targets and its mature features. Chances are, you can throw valid C code to GCC and it'll produce an acceptable binary for a given platform.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-14 9:31

>>39
There are other C compilers that demonstrate better results for a given metric.
You say that like it isn't a completely trivial assertion.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-14 9:34

>>40
I choose my words like I choose my code: autistic levels of pedantry.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-14 9:41

>>41
There are other posts that demonstrate higher levels of autism for a given metric.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-14 17:40

>>28
Your friend is just an idiot who doesn't understand the Unix philosophy. Having a script like killall to simplify a complex chain of commands is precising why there's a programmable shell there in the first place.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-14 18:41

>>43
killall
script

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-14 18:53

>>36
Octave actually added a lot of syntax related abilities MATLAB didn't offer. Octave is slower on Windows, not sure about Linux...

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