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Good night, sweet prince

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-12 21:43

Dennis MacAlistair Ritchie (September 9, 1941 - October 12, 2011)

https://plus.google.com/u/2/101960720994009339267/posts/ENuEDDYfvKP?hl=en

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-12 22:06

;_;

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-12 22:10

RIP

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-12 22:23

;_;

Fuck these lithpfaggots, most Lisp compilers were made on C.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-12 22:28

>>4
Don't sully the memory of Dennis Ritchie with your mindless fanboyism, please.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-12 22:31

>>5
But he did create C and everything is just yet another abstraction layer mounted on top of C.

And I'm a Haskell lover myself.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-12 22:33

>>4
No, they're not. Almost all serious Lisp compilers/implementations that I know are written in Lisp. What tends to be written in C and assembly is the garbage collector and OS API/thunk stuff, which is very little compared to the rest of the code.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-12 23:08

Who?

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-12 23:30

RIP Dennis Ritchie thank you for creating the best programming language of all time.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-12 23:53

>>7
>GC
GC is shit.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-12 23:54

One of the greatest men known to computing. ;_;

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 0:20

Sorry he had to die. Glad he's gone. Hope fucking Lisp dies with him too.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 0:32

>>12
Why would Lisp die with him? Lisp is an immortal idea in the minds of programmers, like Windows XP is an immortal OS in the PC install base.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 0:45

>>13
like Windows XP is an immortal OS in the PC install base
See you in 10 years.

Name: FrozenVoid 2011-10-13 0:56

>>13
Actually i have no intention of moving from XP to any OS which have mandatory product activation, and many anti-features which detract from using the computer or removing features e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_removed_from_Windows_Vista http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_removed_from_Windows_7
If the time comes when XP is no longer supported by hardware makers i'll switch to Gentoo(which i have disk on the shelf, just not using it since it much more tedious than XP) rather than Win8.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 1:11

>>12
You're an idiot, he had nothing to do with Lisp.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 1:17

:C

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 5:35

;________;

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 5:42

>>15
He uses Windows XP and claims to be an expert programmer and even created /r/expertprogrammers/

I can see why you're being ridiculed.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 5:46

Thank you Dennis for giving me the technology to annoy people around the world.

Name: FrozenVoid 2011-10-13 6:08

>>19
Lunix is too buggy and slow to be usable, call me when they get to windows XP level. I value my time and fighting the OS everyday is not my favorite pasttime.
If i wanted to run a "hacker" OS, i'd rather design my own OS(The FrozenOS project is low-priority since XP is good enough).
If i wanted to run a "user-friendly" OS i'd use windows.
There is no point using Lunix.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 6:10

>>21
User-friendliness is a word that never should have been invented.
The idea is wrong! It is a long story about the user, which I will try to condense. The point is that the computer user, as functioning in the development of computer products is not a real person of flesh and blood but a literary figure, the creation of literature, rather poor literature. 15 years ago I Inoticed that Dutch computer scientists developing products, when talking of the needs of the user would use—in the middle of a Dutch sentence—the American word user, which of course is perfectly translatable, as you and I both know. Our cigarette packages have english on them as well.........; but then I discovered that in spite of their anglophobia, the word user is perfect French. Then I discovered that it is also perfect Russian and the two of us also know more Japanese than you think. Well the mere fact that that little word is not translated, but it is taken over as a foreign body, in Dutch, French, Russian and Japanese discussions, means that it has lost its original meaning. Now, if you start to analyze the many character traits of that literary figure, you discover that he is most uninspiring. He is stupid, education resistant if not education proof, and he hates any form of intellectual demand made on him, he cannot be delighted by something beautiful, because he lacks the education to appreciate beauty. Large sections of computer science are paralyzed by accepting this moron as their typical customer. Rare are the computer companies that are prepared to make a Mercedes, the analog the high quality product for the discerning customer. As it turns out, particularly in the USA mathematics is the pinnacle of user unfriendliness, if you read the catalogs of text book publishers, then it is quite clear that the major recommendation that they give a book is that it is a-mathematical, that it does not require mathematical knowledge, etc. So, user friendliness is, among other things the cause of a frantic effort to hide the fact that eo ipso computers are mathematical machines.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 6:27

>>22
We know many things about human psychology and the nature of computers to design one that properly caters to the faults and strengths of humanity. I recommend reading the Humane Interface by Jef Raskin.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 6:28

RIP dmr

Name: FrozenVoid 2011-10-13 6:34

>he cannot be delighted by something beautiful, because he lacks the education to appreciate beauty
Lunix kernel is not "Something beautiful" in any way,shape or form.
I've seen the sources. Its huge, overcomplicated and filled with kludges to accommodate everything(mostly drivers) at once in monolithic one-size-fits all "Enterprise Solution" which is lacking any stable API to be usable at all.
When it changes it breaks the system every time there is a major change, requiring recompiling the kernel and patching related software to be usable again("Write once, compile anytime").
I assume the daily routine of "Expert Programmers" should be.
1.wake up
2. Download latest kernel
3.compile
4. download new packages
5. compile
6. try to pretend the alpha quality shit you installed is usable
7. crash
8. download patches for kernel
9. recompile and try to use it again
10.since its so crappy you take the sources apart and patch them yourself. After several hours,
11. recompile, day is over now, and any chance of productive work is gone.
12. next day, repeat. You're expert level now.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 6:41

#include <stdio.h>

#define _ puts(";_;")

int main()
{
  ;_;
  return 0;
}

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 6:49

Rest in Peace

Name: FrozenVoid 2011-10-13 7:08

>>19
If you claim Lunix is superior design to XP, the best-counter argument is Big Kernel Lock(it is as important as GIL in Python/Ruby) which was embedded so deep in the kernel it was only removed last year.
XP has native multiprocessing and mature mutex system since the start of NT. Lunix still does not have a good system for mutexes.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 7:18

>>21
If i wanted to run a "hacker" OS

Sweet lord, you're so full of shit, it's unbelievable. I'm running Ubuntu, would run Fedora, or CentOS, and these three distributions are perfectly desktop-ready operating systems, at the same usability level as Windows XP and Mac OSX.

it's not my fault you constantly try to run bullshit distros like Gentoo and Archlinux.

>>28
Big Kernel Lock(it is as important as GIL in Python/Ruby) which was embedded so deep in the kernel it was only removed last year.

Since it's removed now, there's clearly no reason NOT to use Linux anymore, right? Right.

Lunix still does not have a good system for mutexes.
Pthreads is suddenly no longer part of the kernel? Oh wait, it still is!
And it turns out you're still being a furry autist.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 7:22

>>25
download kernel

What planet do you call home that you actually have to compile your kernel manually?

I mean, The fuck? 1999 has called, they'd like their antique distributions back!

next day, repeat. You're expert level now.

If this is what you ``believe'' Linux is about then it doesn't surprise me that you never wrote any remotely meaningful software. At all.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 7:50

>>29,30
Are too dense to recognize obvious bad trolls?

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 7:53

>>31
Are too dense to recognize obvious bad trolls?

Name: FrozenVoid 2011-10-13 8:02

>>29
>bullshit distros like Gentoo and Archlinux.
They are much better then "user-friendly" distros which are slower, takes tons of memory and fairly inferior to XP in usability.
Especially atrocious is the new Ubuntu GUI.
>Pthreads is suddenly no longer part of the kernel? Oh wait, it still is!
Pthreads is the interface for multithreading, it is not exposing kernel code to you.
I would suggest reading this before you spew another uneducated opinion
http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/mutex-design.txt
>>30
>compile your kernel manually?
I assume you run some automated GUI tool which downloads and re-compiles the kernel for you? 
>you never wrote any remotely meaningful software.
I don't intend to dedicate my life to working on maintaining "Scalable Enterprise Solutions", OSes or software to sell. I write mainly for my own enjoyment and "software" isn't the right term(its not a product to sell or distribute), i prefer "code" or "algo" which i do not maintain or distribute(i can publish code snippets or sources if i want, but without any obligations which come with distributing software).

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 8:05

>>33
herpderp

I can see why you're an autist.

Name: VIPPER 2011-10-13 8:19

>>33
Hey! Your not the real frozenvoid!

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 9:14

It's greatest time in our life! Evil is dying by itself. First Jobs, now the filhy worse-is-better bastard! Hope Unix itself will follow soon.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 9:16

Heil Lisp! Sieg Heil!

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 9:53

>>36

Cool with me. Linux is better anyway.

inb4 ``But Linux is Unix!'' - it isn't. Go back to your hugbox, autist.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 10:11

>>36,37
I never really understood the whole ``Worse is better vs. the Right Thing'' debate.
In my opinion, UNIX and C can be considered to be Right Things. I'll admit the C preprocessor is a piece of shit, though.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 10:20

>>39
enjoy your segmentation fault, fanboy.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 10:23

Have you read your Unix Haters Hanbook today?

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 10:35

>>41
That book is a pile of shit. I especially love how they glorify ``the Right Thing'' yet hate on X Windows.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 10:37

Attention to all /prog/riders ITT: STOP TROLLING!. Let us mourn for dmr in silence, please.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 10:45

>>42
Xwindows is one of the worst abominations produced by Unix. There are just so many things that go wrong with it.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 10:46

>>43
I'm not trolling. It's pure hatred for all unix-like.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 10:51

>>44
The real abomination is Xlib, a trojan horse given by the Japanese to glorious Occidental programmers.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 10:55

>>46
XWindows is a DSL for widget manipulation. It's a bad DSL, which duplicates functionality already presented by HTML, which dupcliates functionality presented by Lisp. There are also Java and SWF applets, which can be used for windowing system too.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 10:57

>>47
Oh! And I forgot about PostScript, which also does the same.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 11:02

Who the fuck is this guy? Sounds like a nobody trying to ride the wave of visionaryism Jobs created.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 11:05

>>49
Please respect the deceased, terrible troll.

Name: glenda 2011-10-13 11:08

Sep 9 1941 - Oct 9 2011

9

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 11:16

How do we know he's really dead? This could all just be a troll until I see a body.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 11:35

printf("Goodbye world.\n");

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 11:36

>>51

Cirno did it.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 11:37

For how much I hate C, WiB and UNIX, Dennis Ritchie's still a person, and I can't be glad he's dead. Sure, I'll remember him as the person who ruined ,,computers'' for everyone forever.

RIP.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 12:32

>>26
I like

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 12:43

>>53
OPTIMISATION

puts("Goodbye, world.");

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 12:45

>>53
OPTIMISATION

puts("Goodbye, world.");

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 12:58

Sadder than the fact that the greatest troll of modern era has died, is the fact that I've heard the news directly from /prog/.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 13:54

>>26
stdio.h
int main()
return 0
Fuck off, ``faggot"

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-13 13:55

I applied at Bell Labs but they had no ritchie.

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