/prog/ - Optimism vs Realism

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-27 8:07

What could [/]prog possibly &/or realistically hope to achieve, now and in the near, or even distant future?

...Trolls anticipated, as are hopefully a few good answers ;

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-27 8:10

2018: Anonix is completed and becomes the first public domain POSIX stack.
2024: Most of the world's computes are powered by Anonix variations.
2025: Civilization collapses due to bug.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-27 8:14

2026: Cudder goes back to the kitchen

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-27 8:25

...or to rephrase, what does /prog want to build?
...a wish-list even?

thats 1 Vote for Anonix

c'mon anon there must be heaps of things that 'Could' be done already..
a better question perhaps could be what couldn't be done..?

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-27 8:55

Procedural FPS: two-ish types.

In both cases, the maps are procedural.

First case: Game types include standard stuff like Team Deathmatch, Domination, Capture the Flag, Onslaught, stuff like that. The map code would actually be the algorithm, a seed specified by the server would be used, and the server would send the seed off to the user, the user would make the map, maybe calculate a few hashes and check with the server to see if they're right, then join the game.

Second case: A map with some static elements, but with the use of portals or map redefinition code, when the battle progresses, as is the case in something like Tremulous and its stages, new parts of the map open. The new parts are designed for various requirements, like if you wanted to promote balanced gameplay, the new area might have elements catering to or restricting playstyles that were previously "overly" effective.

I was just thinking something funny, is if you say had an 0 shaped level, the procedural map modifier could even distort existing level geometry, so if something like one side of a base was terribly weak, the game could rotate and extend existing paths so the weaker side was harder to get to.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-27 9:06

>>5
Also, possibly combined with this, is Portals used in multiplayer games to distort level geometry/graphs.

An idea might be like a standard CTF map, your flag is in the center of a square room. Two doors on opposite sides of the room. Either door, you can head out, turn left, turn left, turn left, walk through the door, and you're in the enemy base! This could be spiced up by having various paths that say go downhill to the top of the enemy base, and in the worst-case-scenario, and MC-Escher-stairs like level for Team Deathmatch, where you have to look up and down and around for enemies.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-27 9:09

>>5,6
Fuck man, I already get lost in Q3A and Minecraft. That is a description of one of my nightmares.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-27 9:13

Distant future wishes for where software should go? I would like to see OpenCog succeed with its roadmap (some delays are acceptable, but I hope they're right about their ideas and succeed with their goals).
Personal? Various projects which I'm not going to post about here.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-27 9:15

>>7
You obviously need to play more Unreal Tournament and Tremulous. Tremulous would be better on average, it has more landmarks, but most of UT maps have landmarks and are symmetrical or relatively primitive in their geometry.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-27 9:28

>>9
Yeah, I probably need to play a bit more of both. Playing that dretch character in Tremulous and walking on walls confuse me to no end. Perhaps I may improve my visual spatial reasoning skills if I spend more time as a dretch.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-27 9:31

>>10
You get used to it haha. I felt the same way when I started, it was like OH GOD WHAT AM I SEEING

Tremulous 1.1 distorts the FOV when dretch, Trem 1.2 doesn't I think, as well as Trem 1.2 supports horizontal+ FOV, so it should be easier to learn.