>>12 NEURO-TYPICALS: Windows, Visual Studio, C++, C#, VB
Weird way to say ``little kids''. AUTISTS: Everything else
Weird way to say ``normal people''.
>>20
Okay what the fuck is your connection doing to your tty that fucks up ordinary stdin/stdout with no cursor-positioning bullshit. I didn't fucking believe such a piece of shit existed but it looks like you're about to fucking prove me wrong. Are you fucking prepared to go ALL THE WAY with your fucked up shitty evidence? There will be dire consequences, should you fail.
>>23
Yeah, it's not rocket surgery. Try this: ssh localhost /bin/sh, authenticate and see how usable your terminal is. Now, try this instead: ssh -t localhost /bin/sh.
Big difference. I admin a bunch of boxes that must be connected to via some kind of ssh proxy that seems to invoke the shell as a command, but doesn't indicate it wants a tty.
Long story short: your incredulity puts you in the same class as the genius who setup the broken proxy in the first place.
I've been able to use ed using a screen reader that simply reads lines from ed's output and reads them out loud. I'm not sure if that qualifies for a dumb terminal though.
>>25
Perhaps your ed is different than the one installed on these boxes, or perhaps your reader emulates a terminal (more likely, most commands that benefit from a terminal in any way simply assume they have one.) I'm not very well versed in ed and I wouldn't have bothered using it except for solving this particular problem, but it doesn't work there either.
I see. It seems so strange to me that ed wouldn't work on a dumb terminal, as it doesn't seem to do anything fancy. It would be a pretty short exercise to write an implementation of ed in a scripting language like perl, so I suppose anyone willing to do so could find a version compatible with a dumb terminal or write one his/herself.