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Bill Joy on C

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-08 20:22

"Stuff written in antique programming languages like C is full of holes. Those languages weren't designed for writing distributed programs to be used over a network."

"You can't simply write a new, multimillion-line program in C and expect it to be reliable unless you're willing to work on it for 20 years."

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-08 20:23

This is the reason why I use Java

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-08 20:42

"You can't simply write a new, multi-line program in Java and expect it to be reliable even if you're willing to work on it for 20 years."

Name: sage 2010-09-08 20:52

''One does not simply into Java.''

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-08 21:26

Isn't this why C++ was made?

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-08 21:28

>>5
I don't know where you got that idea.

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-08 22:24

This is why I use Racket.

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-09 0:13

None of these criticisms apply to the D programming language.

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-09 1:42

"You can't simply write a new, multimillion-line program."

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-09 13:53

"You can't simply write a program in C."

Name: Sergio 2010-09-09 18:12

vi is best pure editor!!
Bill Joy has true heart energy!!
So many thanks you from Brasil!!

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-09 18:25

Bill Joy on vi

``I'm tired of using vi. I get really bored. There have been many nights when I've fallen asleep at the keyboard trying to make a release. At least now I can fall asleep with a mouse in my hand. I use the Xerox optica mouse instead of the other one because it is color coordinated with my office. Did you notice? I prefer the white mouse to the black mouse. You've got to have some fun, right?''

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-09 18:46

He cofounded Sun and therefore has vested intrest with Java. Why else would he say this?

Also, a dislike of C and vi, finding white mice preferrable.
- even more reasons not to like him

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-09 18:55

Bill Joy on vi

``The fundamental problem with vi is that it doesn't have a mouse and therefore you've got all these commands.''

``These editors tend to last too long - over three decades for vi now. Ideas aren't advancing very quickly, are they?''

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-09 21:08

>>13
Consider the fact that those quotes on vi are from 1984, when everyone thought that the mouse was going to be the replacement for any and all keyboard-driven UI.  And he was the guy who wrote it, so it stands to reason that he'd be one to point out what he doesn't like about it.

Too bad that "bitchin' editor" / "badass editor" never materialized.

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-09 21:50

>>15
You had me quite confused for a moment. Then I was like "Oh, right, the year!"

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-09 22:06

>>16
The title of the novel (and most of its adaptations) is Nineteen Eighty-Four, not 1984.

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-09 22:51

>>15
Whereas now it's 2010, and GUIs have replaced keyboard-driven UIs among all but the most autistic users.

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-09 23:01

>>17
No one writes it like that though, even on the cover of most English releases. Translations are generally just titled `1984' as well.

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-10 3:19

>>19
No one writes it like that thoug
This is not an argument.

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-10 3:26

>>20

Then stop arguing.

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-10 3:52

>>20
Is there a Heaven for a thoug?

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-10 10:45

>>18
...among people who don't know how to use a computer.
I think you had a typographical error so I fixed that for you.

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-10 13:12

>>23
I think
Ah, no. That was clearly more of a reflex.

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-10 15:37

>>23
Proofreading is supposed to fix errors, not introduce them.

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-10 18:11

>>18
GUIs and keyboards are mutually exclusive? Huh. Never did know why this now-useless keyboard is still attached to my computer. Thanks, >>18.

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