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Name: Anonymous 2010-06-13 15:35

Since you're one of the lesser racist boards on 4chan I have a question. Is it possible for an African to become a successful programmer? And by that I mean, could he become anything more than a code monkey? Would he be able to get hired in the sea of Asians?

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-13 15:46

An African can be a programmer, yes, only if he grown outside of Africa.
There is no such thing as 'intelligence' or 'computer' in Africa in ordre to have decent programmers.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-13 15:46

>>1
We're not racist?

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-13 15:54

>>3
There's a lot of sepples racism here.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-13 16:02

What do you call an african programmer?

NIGGER

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-13 16:48

>>3
In general, there isn't much racism on here. Misogyny on the other hand...

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-13 17:06

>>6
Sure, if you ignore all the JEWS and NIGGER threads, there's no racism at all. :rolleyes:

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-13 17:16

>>7
This isn't /vip/ or /lounge/, also most occurrences of "Nigger" are followed by "* African American" and then shortly "Back to /b/, please", usually in that order and consecutively. I don't think true /prog/dolytes are at all racist.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-13 17:17

>this thread
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Name: Anonymous 2010-06-13 17:34

If a person takes the time to study a domain, he could be anything, but if the environment doesn't provide him with the opportunity to study a domain, then the chances of him being skilled in that domain are much lower. Draw your own conclusions from that.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-13 17:38

>>7
* African American

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-13 18:01

>>1
Really? Was this thread THAT important?

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-13 20:42

>>10
The lower average intelligence of some groups makes it much less likely (although still possible) for individuals of certain groups to succeed in high-intelligence fields such as programming

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-14 0:09

>>13

The problem with intelligence testing is that it's essentially impossible to remove social interactions and say that there is a basic biological difference between groups.

It's more plausible to say that black U.S. Americans and African natives under-perform in areas of intelligence because of economic disparity brought on by the artifacts of colonialism and modern-day capitalism engines (i.e. propping up dictators who prove rare-metal exports.)

Areas looking into the human genetic variation find that the whole of humanity has an incredible unvarying set of characteristics- as a whole we have less variation as a species than a few dozen in-group chimp.

And, there are greater individual differences within racial groups than between racial groups (however you decide to draw the lines.)

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-14 0:12

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-14 0:20

>>14
And, there are greater individual differences within racial groups than between racial groups (however you decide to draw the lines.)
Is there some law that says you can only mention that in discussions where it's completely irrelevant? There are greater individual differences in intelligence within the human species than there are between different species of mammal, too.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-14 0:47

>>16
I'm not convinced there is any discussion where it is relevant. It's one of those platitudes people like to repeat that on closer inspection turns out to be incoherent because it's ill-defined.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-14 1:16

>>15
Really? Out of all the outstanding blacks you chose one that would barely qualify as an inventor. This is an example not of him being surprisingly intelligent but of the rest of his peers being idiotic.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-14 2:56

Maybe I'm just a fucking Canadian, but does it have to be African American all the time?

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-14 2:59

sage

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-14 2:59

sage

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-14 3:00

sage

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-14 3:00

sage

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-14 3:04

>>20,21,22,23
Oh the irony

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-14 5:46

Would he be able to get hired in the sea of Asians?
Actually it's more like sea of Indians.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-14 6:12

>>25
they are asian

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-14 9:17

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Name: Anonymous 2010-06-14 9:54

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Name: Nate Higgers 2010-06-14 11:14

>>19
Yes.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-14 20:29

* Negroes

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-14 23:52

United Nigger College Fund

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-15 0:10

This thread is now about inappropriate use of sage. Why does no one sage when replying here, but actual programming threads disappear in hours because all the interesting posts also sage? Are you people just not paying attention to what you are bumping and what you are not?

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-15 0:12

>>32
Because the sensible regulars who have anything to contribute are aware of the proper use of sage, whereas morons who enjoy going NIGGERS LOL WEED EVERYDAY are imageboard effluent who don't have a clue.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-15 0:12

>>15
A much better example of African genius is the creator of the Zeer pot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeer_pot.

Insofar as the intelligence of blacks in general, I generally find that immigrants from Africa are more intelligent than the average African American (at least those Somalis and Ethiopians with whom I've had the pleasure to play chess). It seems that the American Black strives to reach a level of education and understanding on par with the average white American, which is to say, stupid as a rock. Once this mediocre goal is attained personal advancement ceases - they have left the ghetto and arrived in the promised land of suburban American mini-malls; They proudly cling to the anti-intellectualism, religious fundamentalism, jersey wearing and general ass-hattery that thrives there. Whereas the black from Africa, perhaps due to a limited form of natural selection in that only the brightest and best can afford to come here, or because of the nature of immigrants in general, seems immune to the overall malaise of vacuousness that currently thrives in our country.

This may very well be a function of attitude over actual intelligence but even so that would be enough to recommend hiring the African immigrant over the native born African American.

TLDR version: African programmers sound promising.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-15 0:32

on par with the average white American redneck, which is to say, stupid as a rock
FTFY.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-15 6:13

Quite honestly, I think that it is entirely plausible that black people (using an unspecific term here because there really is no unifying "black" ethnicity) are less intelligent than Caucasians or Asians on average. We have pretty much acknowledged "race differences" in average strength or eyesight or ability to cope with sunlight, and while, of course, random variation between individuals is usually much more pronounced from a purely numerical point of view than consistent differences between "races" are, this argument only constitutes a deliberate stirring up of confusion to avoid inconvenient debate; all the much stronger individual variation does not, for instance, appear to interfere with black people having pretty consistently darker skin and different facial structure than Caucasians. The only problem is that a suggestion of lower average intelligence hits much closer to home than a suggestion of different average looks.

Yet, how exactly does that matter and how exactly does it change anything about an individual's merits? The average black person having a lower measurable intelligence does not make any particular black person any less intelligent any more than the average Caucasian person having 2.something children makes me any more of a parent or the average Caucasian person being more likely to have Asthma makes me any more of an Asthmatic. Racists, ultimately, are just people who don't have enough of their own to take pride in and so live under the illusion that purported relative statistical merits of some genetically defined group they belong to somehow translate to an increased value for them as individuals.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-15 6:57

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence#Test_scores

Most of the evidence of intelligence differences between racial groups is based on studies of IQ test scores, almost always using self-reported racial data. Self-reports have been shown to be reliable indicators of genetic race to the extent that they match up with genetic clusters derived from mathematical clustering techniques, but these techniques do not determine whether these clusters themselves have any relation to intelligence.[16] According to psychologist David Rowe, self-report is the preferred method for racial classification in studies of racial differences because classification based on genetic markers alone ignore the "cultural, behavioral, sociological, psychological, and epidemiological variables" that distinguish racial groups.[40]
There are observed differences in average test score achievement between racial groups, which vary depending on the populations studied and the type of tests used. In the United States, self-identified Blacks and Whites have been the subjects of the greatest number of studies. Black-White average IQ differences appear to increase with age, reaching an average of nearly 17 points by age 24, which is slightly more than 1 standard deviation.[41] The Black-White IQ difference is largest on those tests that best represent the general intelligence factor g.[42] Using data primarily from the United States and Europe, Jensen and Rushton have estimated the average IQ of Blacks/Africans to be around 85; of whites/Europeans to be around 100, and of East Asians to be around 106.[3] Estimates from other researchers are more or less similar.[5][41] Gaps are also seen in other tests of cognitive ability or aptitude, including university admission exams, military aptitude tests and employment tests in corporate settings.[43]
The American Psychological Association has concluded that the racial IQ gap is not the result of a simple bias in the content or administration of tests, and the tests are equally valid predictors of achievement for Black and White Americans.[5] Arthur Jensen has found that when black and white individuals are matched for IQ, their relatives tend towards different means.[44][45]
The IQ distributions of other racial and ethnic groups in the United States are less well studied. The few Amerindian populations that have been systematically tested, including Arctic Natives,[46][47] tend to score worse on average than White populations but better on average than Black populations.[43] East Asian populations score higher on average than White populations in the United States as they do elsewhere.[16]

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-15 7:05

>>5
* AFRICAN AMERICAN

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-15 7:09

>>30
* African Americans
>>31
* United African American College Fund
>>33
* African Americans

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-15 7:16

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