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Why is Java so popular?

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-28 16:52

Python is so much easier to use.

Java requires either a bracket or a semicolon on every single fucking line. In Python, just indent.

System.out.println("foo") vs print "foo"

Arrays can only store objects of a single type and
must have a specified size while lists in Python have neither of these restrictions

Why must you specify the type of the variable when you're declaring it? Why can't Java figure out something so simple?

The "for loop" in Python iterates over all the elements in the object. In Java, you must do the retarded
(int i;i<something;i++) bullshit.

Python > Java

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-28 16:56

* > Java

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-28 17:06

Java is faster by an order of magnitude.

The "for loop" in Python iterates over all the elements in the object. In Java, you must do the retarded
(int i;i<something;i++) bullshit.


for (Anus anus : self.anii)
    anus.hax();


IHBT

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-28 17:10

If that's all OP can do for python advocacy, then he has failed.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-28 17:24

>>4
If that's all OP can find wrong with Java, then he has failed.

Name: HAXXUS THE LESSER 2010-05-28 17:50

The Original Poster: a deconstruction.

>>1-san's argument is that FIOC is superior to ENTERPRISE because:
- it is dynamically typed as opposed to statically typed
- uses tabs instead of braces for denoting blocks
- uses newline instead of semi-colons for denoting statement
- doesn't know about the for( : ) loop

Between the two languages, the current zeitgeist of /prog/ is that the superior language THEY ARE BOTH SHIT.

Therefore, I deduce he is either:
a) new here
b) attempts to troll by imitating an ignorant fan of Guido's gay S&M.1
(This list contains the two most probable cases but it is far from complete. I encourage everyone to extend it.)

I tend to the former because /prog/-riders  are typically capable of trolling attempts far more sophisticated and I've seen quite a few in my time. Imitating a smug weenie would be akin to scraping the bottom of the barrel.

I suggest a large dose of Lurkmore.
I hereby open the discussion.
Would >>7-san care to provide his view on the matter?
__
1 If someone would be so kind as to illustrate the appropriate ascii-art. I have misplaced mine.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-28 17:56

>>6
it is dynamically typed as opposed to statically typed
Nothing he wrote implies that. If you think it does you don't understand what dynamic typing is.

current zeitgeist
The consensus is that FIOC is alright, but could be better.

I suggest a large dose of Lurkmore.
Take your own advice.

If someone would be so kind as to illustrate the appropriate ascii-art.
I remember the time when idiots spammed that worthless ASCII ``art'' too. That's imageboard-level bullshit.

I can only recommend that you go back to /b/, please.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-28 17:57

i think sepplesox will be the ultimate language evar

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-28 17:59

>>7
Nothing he wrote implies that. If you think it does you don't understand what dynamic typing is.
Some people associate the ability to mix types in a collection with dynamic typing. It appears that >>6 is one of them.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-28 18:57

>>7,9
Both Haskell and Python have strong (not weak) typing, meaning instances of a type cannot be cast into another type. Explicit conversions must be performed. The difference is that Haskell has static typing, while Python has dynamic typing.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-28 19:18

>I remember the time when idiots spammed that worthless ASCII ``art'' too. That's imageboard-level bullshit.

Them's fightin words!

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-28 19:19

>>11
QUOTE FAILURE
IHBT.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-28 19:29

>>10
You've mastered copy/pasting like a boss. Did you have a point you wanted to make, though?

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-28 19:49

>>13
Why should he have a point when he can just answer a question no-one asked, and which we all know the answer to.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-28 19:54

>>12
IHBT
You replied to a post on /prog/, duh.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-29 9:31

>>6
Happy to oblige.

          .'"".      I LIKE PYTHON BECAUSE I ENJOY HOMOSEXUAL
         c' )"/      S/M. OH GUIDO MAKE ME USE THAT FUCKING
        __>  /_      INDENTATION. OH BABY I'M CUMMING.
     .-`_    ._'-.
    ( -' \  :/  )/   THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO DO IT: GUIDO'S
     \\._|  (  //    WAY! THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T USE ALL
      '-/)   \(,     CONTROL STRUCTURES. IF YOU NEED A DO-
         /  ) )      WHILE LOOP, A SWITCH OR BREAK OUT OF A
        / .'\ |      NESTED LOOP, TOO BAD. GUIDO SAYS IT'S TO
       /.'   \|      KEEP THE LANGUAGE CLEAN, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY
      ||     ||      TO PUNISN HIS SLAVES. THIS DOESN'T MEAN
    __|/     |/__    THAT PYTHON IS FLAWED, JUST WORK AROUND IT.
    _._)     (,__;                       FUCK I'M CUMMING AGAIN.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-29 11:07

Guys, I like FOIC. I really do, not my favourite language, but it's up there. It does so much right. It almost hits the mark of being the perfect programming language for making concept programs, before building them in lower languages. That's the general consensus of /anus/, that FOIC is alright.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-29 11:09

>>17
Basically, also but you should mention that the consensus is that Guido should be shot.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-29 11:46

>>1
Arrays can only store objects of a single type

i thought that is the purpose of arrays.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-29 12:54

>>19
The purpose of an array is sequential O(1) storage.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-29 14:25

>>20
o rly

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-29 15:12

>>17
>making concept programs
Did you mean: toy?

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-29 15:19

>>22
QUOTE FAILURE
Did you mean: failing at quoting?

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-29 15:25

>>23
U MENA HASKALL??

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-29 15:36

>>24
No. Eye mena nothing at all like that.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-29 16:27

Why not use JFIOC? IT'S THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-29 18:50

>>26
If by best you mean worst

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-29 19:21

>>22
Have you heard about prototyping? That's what the grown-ups are doing nowadays.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-29 21:07

>>28
Prototyping is an excellent excuse to write shit code in order to eventually arrive at a good program structure.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-29 21:21

>>29
And then build just enough that it's unfeasible to uproot and rewrite in a real language, so you're stuck with shit code in a shit language forever.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-29 21:42

>>28,29
Not all problems are easily understood just from a description of the inputs and expected outputs. The process of building a prototype is one way of developing a better understanding of the problem. Prototypes are often discarded when the designers have learned what they needed. Other prototypes are extended because the original design of the prototype was probably good enough for extension.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-31 14:04

>>31
You missed the point, it's not that prototype.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-31 21:00

<-- check em dubz

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