GIMP

Ahh, if Gimp was a type of person easily identifiable by an outward trait, I would throw javelins at their cocks.
And miss on purpose if it meant getting a head shot.
Fuckdamnit do I hate Gimp. I'd rather stick my newly roused genitalia in a rambunctious beehive than ever use that shitpile again.
The asswipe magnitude of the developers must be near the MAXIMUM point, which is always serious.
Fuck Gimp. I hope they go extinct.

>>40
Drawing a line.

>>22
Enjoy your piece of shit, people like you are the reason I have to waste 30 minutes pirating Adobe's garbage every now and then.

People like you are the reason Gimp sucks.

Software, especially on the scale of Gimp, exists and is developed because people use it. Despite what you might believe about FLOSS development processes, it is impossible for a group of people to lock themselves in a basement and emerge five years later with a complete, finished Photoshop replacement. Developers need users to contribute, to spot bugs, to donate, to press their employers to support the product, to spread the word, to view advertisements and buy paraphernalia, to write books and tutorials, to answer questions in forums, et cetera, ad infinitum.

How can Gimp possibly gain enough momentum if it competes not against Photoshop, but against the pirated Photoshop? Both are free as in free beer, who'd choose the less functional/polished/popular one?

By pirating PS you steal not only from Adobe, but from your fellow users and from the open source community too. And after you have been stealing from them for a while you have the gall to ask why there are not enough features in their product and declare that if the situation ain't going to be corrected (i.e. if the people you are stealing from would fail to offer you a quality product for free), then you'd continue stealing from them.

Calling you a hypocrite would be offensive to all those gaybashing gays, pro-family values cheaters, abstinence-only promoters having a pregnant teenage daughters, and the rest of your regular kind of hypocrites. It's like saying that Hitler had antisemitic tendencies.

>>42
10/10, would read again!

>>41
It's not any more difficult to draw a line in the GIMP than in MS Paint, with the exception that MS Paint give you a new canvas by default.

>>40
Draw a circle in GIMP. Go on, I dare you.

>>45
Darn you, you... you... DOUBLE NIGGER

>>45
This is a little harder, because the GIMP doesn't have shape drawing tools [I agree this is a flaw], so you make a circular selection and go to > edit > stroke selection

The GIMP is terrible. I don't know a single person who likes it. Inkscape, on the other hand, is quite decent. The OSS community should drop The GIMP and start over.

>>47
Yeah, I know that. One piece of "advice" I read said to make a circular selection, fill the selection with a colour, scale the selection down by a few percent, and then fill it with white.

>>48
There are other Free graphics editors http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_raster_graphics_editors uh, I feel like FV
Have you tried GIMPshop?
>>49
That sounds like the sort of advice we give here. Was it a troll or were they serious?
>>47
After a little thought, I can understand why the made this decision. What they did was abstract out the idea of manipulating a shape (in this case, drawing) from the process. Very programmer like.

>>40
I said layer group and layer adjustments. You can simulate these features in today's Gimp but it's not as easy to achieve the same results as much more work is involved. Apparently, GEGL is going to permit features equivalent to this. Other examples include fancy paintbrush system that's as powerful as Photoshop's and a Berizer curve path system as convenient as Photoshop. Once again, Gimp has equivalents of these features in today's Gimp but it's not as easy to achieve the same results as much more work is involved.

>>41,45
You're confusing visibility with easy to use/easy to learn. Just because a feature is invisible does not mean the feature is hard to use. Drawing a line or oblong is very easy in Gimp.

I propose everybody to close eyes and imagine that it is Gimp which was used for decades and is used in art schools and by professionals and that Photoshop is just a newcomer from FOSS.
I imagined that everybody is complaining that tool icons are too small and that it works in nonstandard way and that .PSD is a format which is used only by Photoshop, and that it takes ages to start program.
But seriously Gimp have not best planned gui and lack of 16 bit/channel and no .hdr/.exr.

>>52
If GIMP was the stablished standard and Photoshop the newcomer, everybody would instantly drop The GIMP and wonder why they had tortured themselves for so long. Eventually they'd reach the conclusion that GIMP's developers were to blame, and a public lynching would be likely to follow.

>>53
It hasn't happened for microsoft, it's not going to happen to the GIMPs developers. You also assume that the programs would be exactly as they are now in his fantasy scenario.

>>54
It hasn't happened for microsoft
You mean with what?

>>55
public lynchings

>>56
No, which product of theirs?

>>57
Microsoft Bob

>>58
lol'd. Wasn't the project lead by Gates' wife?

http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Straight_Line/

>>60
Is that supposed to be sarcastic? In any case, the GIMP tells you how to do it at the bottom of the screen when you are using the pen.

>>59
That's what wikipedia claims

>>61
I've seen people mess up on much, much simpler tasks.

GIMP sucks.  Not just a little but a whole lot.

>>61
This was the official reply to one of the most requested feature ever. Another feature requested for 10 years was to have an interface that doesn't get in your way, but he GIMP project preferred to blame users for using real-world window managers that made things difficult, and advocated using imaginary window managers that made all the issues go away.

Made by retarded hateful pricks; used by the sort of nerds whose sense of aesthetics revolves entirely around fractal, cellular automata, and penguins; and promoted by deluded GNU activists.
If I were Adobe, I'd sponsor them.

>>65
It's pretty clear (based on their history) that the Gimp developers' target audience are the exotic WM using Unix crowd. Another thing is that because people are used to helplessness, they don't understand that they are free to fund their own fork of Gimp that would be perfect for them.

>>66
GIMP should go one step further and make the users compile the source code.  If users have a problem, they should learn to be programmers and fix it themselves.  Photoshop was made by programmers for users.  GIMP is made by programmers for programmers.

>>67
We do not expect users to have any technical skill. We only expect them to find programmers who do.

>>66
If you wanted to build an image editor that works, why in the world would you start with the gimp?

>>69
The open-source community is committed to avoid unnecessary duplication of effort.

>>70
i lolled

>>70
I was this close to HBT.  7/10.

>>65
Gimp ui makes sense if you use more than one monitor.

>>66
I use it on Openbox and there is no problem.

>>70
Then why do they develop GIMP at all, when pretty much anyone and their mother has Photoshop pirated?

>>75
Because not everyone uses Windows or MacOS.

>>76
in your bizarro world, maybe

Programmers:
languages - lisp, haskell, lua, C
factoid - knows at least 4 ways to implement fibs
reads - A Neighborhood of Infinity
editor - vim, emacs
OS - linux

Plumbers:
languages - Java, Python, C++, C#
factoid - knows "tricks" and "design patterns"
reads - coding horror, reddit, TDWTF
editor - Eclipse, Visual Studio
OS - windows

Noobs:
languages - ruby, python, C, C++
factoid - about to start programming a game
reads - not even answers to the questions they ask
editor - IDE or gedit
OS - windows or Ubuntu

>>75
I like my freedom. I don't have that with Photoshop.

>>78
You do understand that a programmer is someone who writes software, a task which simply doesn't happen in your first two languages, and which happens only in the loosest sense on you're OS, no?