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antispam for 4chan

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 13:49

Is it possible to make an automatic anti-spam based on the report feature?

Maybe add an extra option.
O Rule breaking posts
O Illegal content
O Spam

It will check for similar posts in all boards, if more than one post with a similar composition were reported as spam by a X number of users it will be flagged as spam deleting all similar posts and blocking it to be posted again. Something similar to the gmail anti-spam.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 13:51

Maybe.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 13:59

Yes.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 14:01

No.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 14:04

Can you repeat the question?

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 14:06

Maybe it could use some kind of captcha to avoid this feature of being abused.

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O Rule breaking posts
O Illegal content
O Spam [captcha]
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Also, when X people report a spam post it will search for all posts XX% similar to it already reported and flag them with a (is this spam? Report Yes/No) as an aid to save autentic posts (if many people report it as non spam it might be saved) and them add the spam posts to a spam database.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 14:17

>>6
Please learn to use BBCode.

───────────────────────
 • Rule breaking posts
 • Illegal content
 • Spam [captcha]
───────────────────────

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 14:30

>>7
Why? Just to make pretty posts?

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 14:31

>>7
Back to /img/, please!

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 14:34

>>7
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Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 15:10

>>1,6
Your post advocates a

(x) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante

approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)

( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses
(x) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
( ) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
(x) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
(x) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
(x) Users of email will not put up with it
( ) Microsoft will not put up with it
( ) The police will not put up with it
(x) Requires too much cooperation from spammers
(x) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
(x) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists
(x) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business

Specifically, your plan fails to account for

( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it
( ) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email
( ) Open relays in foreign countries
( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses
(x) Asshats
( ) Jurisdictional problems
( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP
( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack
( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email
(x) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes
(x) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
( ) Extreme profitability of spam
( ) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
( ) Technically illiterate politicians
( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers
(x) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
(x) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
( ) Outlook

and the following philosophical objections may also apply:

(x) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever
been shown practical
( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation
(x) Blacklists suck
( ) Whitelists suck
(x) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored
( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
( ) Sending email should be free
(x) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses
( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome
( ) I don't want the government reading my email
( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough

Furthermore, this is what I think about you:

(x) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your
house down!

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 15:11

>>11
+5, Informative

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 15:13

>>11
+5, Informative

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 15:14

>>13
-1, Redundant.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 15:19

>>11
The idea is not an anti-spam for email, it's for imageboards! We already have anti-spam for emails!

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 15:28

>>15
+2, Insightful

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 15:28

>>15
Use your imagination.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 15:32

>>17
+1, Funny
-1, Overrated
+1, Funny
-1, Overrated
+1, Funny
-1, Overrated
+1, Funny
-1, Overrated
+1, Funny
-1, Overrated
+1, Funny
-1, Overrated
+1, Funny
-1, Overrated
+1, Funny
-1, Overrated
+1, Funny
-1, Overrated

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 16:12

>>18
Unoptimized Rating.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 16:46

>>19
Funny only increases the score of the post, it does not give the user any karma.  Overrated on the other hand...

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-21 18:53

>>12-14,16,18,20
Back to /., please.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-22 6:51

No programmers here?

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-22 6:57

it's possible but very processor and memory intensive as well as being open to abuse by faggots.
4chan would turn into reddit if this kind of thing was implemented; and i prefer spam to reddit.
also, your gay

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-22 7:47

>>21
You forgot 11.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-22 7:48

>>23
Upvoted.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-22 9:02

If moot's coders weren't the lazy assholes they are, they would have put a few anti-spam regexen into place years ago to auto-ban those little spam bots. (And would update them once in a while too. A man can dream, right?)

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-22 10:33

>>23
Thanks also, my gay

4chan already have some sort of spam filter but it is updated by few mee (admins?) and is always outdated.

What I want is a system to update the spam list based on the report system.

>>26
The main problem is how often update? We don't have moderators 24 hours a day and the number of admins must be even lower. The only solution would be a system based on user report.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-22 10:37

>>27
I don't think that's as easy as you make it sound. Someone has to craft those regexp's, otherwise it may catch innocent people(and even if they do it properly, it may still catch some innocent posters). Maybe they could get a janitor if there's too much spam, but I haven't seen spam on /prog/ in a while, (just the cNAKED... one). The imageboards do however get a lot of spam, but the spammers there seem to randomize their posts to avoid the filters, which makes doing this properly even harder than it is.

tl;dr: If people could completly stop spam, they would have done it by now.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-22 11:31

>>28
You know, email spam randomize themselves too but gmail stops them.

We already have whole countries banned because of spam. We already have amny innocents catch in this war.

Also
>Also, when X people report a spam post it will search for all posts XX% similar to it already reported and flag them with a (is this spam? Report Yes/No) as an aid to save autentic posts (if many people report it as non spam it might be saved) and them add the spam posts to a spam database.

Janitors? moot doesn't seems to be interested in them right now.

The best solution would be attack them back to teach them that we are not their whore but all /b/ doesn now is raid other 4chan boards.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-22 12:34

The best solution would be to move en masse to another board, but that'll never happen.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-22 12:53

I agree with >>29 that with proper heuristics, spam could probably be filtered out with a pretty good ratio after a while. Of course, banning a few more subnets couldn't hurt as well (preferrably those posting AnonTalk and virus links, I always rage when I see that).

>>30
Nostradamus, you were alive?!

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-23 9:26

>>31
Seesm like AT uses TOR to spam 4chan.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-23 9:31

>>1-

Back to /b/, please!

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-23 9:59

>>29
google has millions of dollars worth of top of the range equipment.
moot has a handful of 386's in some basement in mexico.
so, yeah. tha's why we can't have nice things whereas gmail can

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-23 15:43

>>34
We are using his idea as a model and Google don't make just spamfilters. Also, this is just an idea.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-02 22:40

A simpler idea:
Many spammers will spam all boards at the same time. But real users don't post at many boards at the same time, How about make the posting delay global? The same way that if you make a post on one board you have to wait a minute to post again there it could be made that if you post
This might reduce the spam since the spambots wouldn't be able to post the same thing 40 times at once anymore (and them post more 40 times in one minute).

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 17:45

I HATE women. I never had a girlfriend and never will. The only times I got laid was when I paid a woman or promised her something. I'm never going to hold hands with a chick, kiss a girl intimately because we're in love, or any of the other shit that human beings were made to do. I guess that I'm suppose to be happy masturbating every fucking night. I'm a man with sexual urges and can't get with a female. I'm suppose to be alright with that? THERE IS A FUCKING CURSE ON MY LIFE. A CURSE THAT PREVENTS ANY FEMALE FROM LIKING ME. Oh I forgot, I do get interest from fat chicks and I'm not attracted to fat chicks.
I don't give a fuck anymore. I'm going to become the biggest asshole in the world. I tried the whole being considerate thing and it got me nowhere. If people can't handle my newfound harshness, then bring it on. BECAUSE I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK.
I get happy when I hear about some college slut getting murdered or injured in a hit and run. "oh she was a beautiful and talented girl, how could this happen." I don't know but I'm glad it did.

Name: Anonymous 2010-11-15 22:58

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-17 1:27

Are you GAY?
Are you a NIGGER?
Are you a GAY NIGGER?

If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for!

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