FOLLOW THE SIMPLE RULES

http://lisperati.com/landoflisp/

I'm sure everyone on /#haskell/ /prog/ has seen this already but I didn't find a reference to it in my cursory evaluation of this board's activity from the past year or two (ie. by glancing at the front page; anything else would require side effects).

>>40
ITT: Trolls pretend to know how to program

>>41
ITT: Trolls pretend to know how to program

>>38
meaning you have to pass state arguments all over hell's half acre
HASKELL. HASKELL NOMADS.

Read SICP and YAHT before you return to the land of the Susskind.

>>29
I don't think side-effects and the dynamic typing in Lisp have anything to do with each other.

>>43
Monads are possibly the biggest mistake in the design of Haskell, even more gigantic and ridiculous than trying to make it "pure" in the first place. Writing monad transformers is every bit as difficult as debugging Sepples templates, except it requires about 1000.times more theory to even begin to understand what the fuck you're doing.

They're not actually user-friendly at all and I hope you perish in the mires of your toy Haskell program's source code for even bringing that up.

>>45
Listen to this man

>except it requires over 9000.times more theory
fixed

>>45
You're just jealous of us that achieved satori. Monads allow programmers to express a massive range of computational processes in a standard and elegant manner - the monadic way. If you want your program to make use of a specific computation, just apply more Monads! Don't need a specific computation, just don't use the monad!

Some examples of computations though monads include
*  Representing failure using Maybe monad
* Nondeterminism through backtracking using List monad
* State using State monad
* Read-only environment using Reader monad
* I/O using IO monad

You too can wield the power. Learn monads today and achieve satori now!

Nondeterminism through backtracking using List monad
Oh really?

>>48
And it's still not as expressive as J:
  n=: 50                      NB. set n as the number of digits required
  <.@o. 10x^n                 NB. extended precision 10 to the nth * pi
314159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510

>>50
It takes nearly twenty characters to multiply a constant with an integer? Even assembly is less verbose.

>>51
That's actually equivalent to...
printf("%1.50f", pi);

>>52
I don't know J, but is it really equivalent? A few characters seem to be missing. I found some, but not all, of them.
#include...
int main (...

>>53
I neglected to penalize C for something you don't see in any scripting language to begin with.

>>37
Fuck you.

>>49
I'm confused too. The LogicT monad is for backtracking, the list monad is for simpler nondeterminism (like filterM (const [False ..])).

>>48-kun also forgot the more interesting Cont, STM, ST, and probabilistic computation monads.

>>54
if __name__ == "__main__":

>>57
Obvious troll is obvious. That's non-mandatory, and occasionally useful to package a test-script or similar with a library.

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