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The Day of Linux on the Desktop

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-12 16:32

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Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 17:15

>>72
In a sense it's good to know you're a troll, but I actually have to deal with people who really believe that IRL. I'm still waiting for one of them to write a GUI for grep.

It's like arguing about the utility of sight with a blind man. Or not even a blind man, just someone who insists on keeping his eyes closed at all times.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 17:19

>>74-san. Yes the blind man can understand why sight is important. The True Believer who was told to close his eyes only knows what his Leader allows him to see.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 17:21

>>72
CLI tools are still very useful, and I'm not talking about UNIX in particular. There's also GUIs which integrate their own scripting languages, and allow executing user-written commands within them. A GUI should be used to considerably accelerate a user's task, not to just dumb it down for some computer illiterate folk to find easy to use.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 17:27

>>73
Nope, not even close.

>>76
There's also GUIs which integrate their own scripting languages, and allow executing user-written commands within them.
…like OS9.

A GUI should be used to considerably accelerate a user's task, not to just dumb it down for some computer illiterate folk to find easy to use.
Also like OS9.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 17:41

>>77
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS-9

Unless that's the OS 9 you mean, you're blatantly wrong about it having a scripting language.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 17:43

>>78
Seriously?  Have you ever heard of a Mac?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 17:52

>>79
Macs run OS X, not that OS 9 thingy whatever that is.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 17:54

OSX can has Applescript

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 18:11

>>79
I know that old versions of Mac OS had no scripting language.

I've used Macs before. The interface in old versions was a picture of a manila folder, and every application on the computer was a button that made a retarded clicking noise when you opened the program. There was no room in that interface for a scripting language. I checked.

OS X introduced an actual desktop and a taskbar based on what Windows had at the time, and all the Apple users shat themselves because the interface was way too complex for them to understand.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 18:42

>>82
Your an idiot and a troll.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 18:47

>>83
What about his idiot and troll?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 19:01

>>82
HyperTalk was a scripting language.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 19:06

This thread just keeps going, doesn't it?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 19:14

The AppleScript project was an outgrowth of the HyperCard project. HyperCard had an English language-based scripting language called HyperTalk, which could be used for embedding logic and behavior into a HyperCard stack. Apple engineers recognized that a similar scripting language could be designed to be used with any application, and the AppleScript project was born as part of System 7.

AppleScript was released in October 1993 as part of System 7.1.1 (System 7 Pro, the first major upgrade to System 7). QuarkXPress (ver. 3.2) was one of the first major software applications that supported AppleScript. This in turn led to AppleScript being widely adopted within the publishing and prepress world, often tying together entire complex workflows. This was a key factor in retaining the Macintosh's dominant position in publishing and prepress, even after QuarkXpress and other publishing applications were ported to Microsoft Windows.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 20:36

>>45
Then which distribution do you recommend? The most "user friendly" is said to be Ubuntu, and as far as I know it's just a bloated version of Debian.

>>46,47,48
I'm just too used to ACDSee. I want a file browser where I can hit enter and view the images in that folder. Tried countless replacements but none worked so I installed an ancient version of ACDSee with wine. Maybe it's X that sucks because scrolling an image is too slow.

Windows has spoiled me and I'm uncomfortable using anything else. Like using Super+D to minimize everything and using Super alone to bring up the menu, something that I couldn't manage to configure in xfce.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 21:01

>>88
You can configure xmonad to do that if you know Haskell

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 21:08

>>88
To be fair, nothing will ever be as convenient for EXPERT JAPANESE CARTOON PORN COLLECTORS as what 90's ACDsee would be today had it not become an useless bloated piece of shit.
(Xee.app would be pretty decent if you didn't have the choice between a years-old version with shitty jaggy upscale and unofficial builds crashing every 200 pictures)

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-13 22:04

>>88-90
Not >>88 here, but I feel his pain. It's amazing how hard it is to find an image viewer that has both a decent navigation sidebar AND the very trivial option of zooming images to width on fullscreen.

90s ACDsee rocked indeed.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-14 4:52

>>88
I want a file browser where I can hit enter and view the images in that folder.
Both eog and gthumb do that. As do most others. If you want to whine about missing features, pick features that are actually missing.

Like using Super+D to minimize everything and using Super alone to bring up the menu, something that I couldn't manage to configure in xfce
This is why total beginners use GNOME. It's much easier to configure than it is under Windows.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-14 7:27

>>92
This is why total beginners use GNOME. It's much easier to configure than it is under Windows.
Not just beginners, some of us actually like GNOME No, I'm serious

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-14 8:24

I  love you >>93-chan

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-14 8:58

>>92
No, they do not behave like ACDSee.

And I'll try with GNOME next time I boot my PC. It always stuck me as a bloated piece of shit with a lot extra goodies on the desktop.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-14 10:02

>>88,91
This software is free software. This means it is your responsibility to find skilled people that can fix up software to meet your requirements.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-14 10:12

>>96
Has nobody written some sort of open-source fallacy faq yet? This is pretty 1/10, bro.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-14 10:40

>>97
your responsibility to find skilled people that can fix up software to meet your requirements
This means you find a programmer and pay him money. This is no different for hiring a gardener for your garden or hiring a band for your party.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-14 11:38

>>97
Look at how the iPhone was always intended to be controlled completely by Apple. Apple locked the iPhone to stop unblessed iPhone software from entering it. To unlock the iPhone, users only needed to take it to their local iPhone unlocker. Users didn't need any technical knowledge to perform this feat.

The point is that users can do something similar with free software: if it doesn't work how you want it to work, you go to your local software programmer and pay him to fix it.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-14 11:40

>>95
If your point of reference is something like xmonad, maybe. If your point of reference is Windows, are you fucking kidding?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-14 12:00

ACDSee
I suggest using your normal file browser with Comix.

You can rename your files to .cbz or .cbr (unextracted, U MAD?) and add a file association.

Not that I'd understand why anyone would want to use a browser in the first place when Comix can continue to the next archive.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-17 1:27

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