Why people shouldn't run Ubantu

I've been on Ubantu for three years and this linux geek tells me, ```Hey, that kid doesn't know how to configure, make, make install, go teach him some basics, I ain't got no time''' and I'm like WHAT DO YOU MEAN I USE APT-GET and then I lost all respect and the kid installed openSUSE in the end.

LOL OpenSUSE will get you no cred.

Compile a few kernels and it wont matter what distro you use.

Slackware though is for Real Men(tm)

>>2
Get the fuck out.

>>3 is a nigger

>>4
back to /b/ please

>>5
gb2/high school

4chan is 18 and over
ktnhxbai

>>6
You are an imbecile and a third-class troll at best. This is not /b/, please do not treat it as such.

You presume to tell me what to do? Okay Mr. Internet Tough Guy.


Have ever gotten paid to write code?
Have you ever had to pay taxes?

Or are you sponging off society under the presumption of "being in school".

If the answer to the either of the first 2 questions is no or the answer to the 3rd is yes, then you don't belong here. So split fag.

>>2
Slackware? I remember that being my first Linux experience back in 1999.

Yes but mine was on the 7 floppy disk set and it was back in 91.

Slax is still the most stable of the ditros, if a *bit* user un-friendly.

>>10
Slackware was not around in '91. IHBT

>> I heard once a rumor that you can get lay by a female if you tell it that you use slackware on your mac! I didnt try it i was to afraid to lose my virginity.

sorry 93 to 95 ish. long term short term memory loss. it was definitely slack 1.8 though.

was a long time ago
had small children in the house
jobs etc
blurs the memory
the herb too

slack 1.x even LOL

the hell?

why aren't you guys using gentoo?

>>15
Ricers.

>>15
because we're not faggots like /g/?

>>15
Too much effort, considering it's less up-to-date than arch

>>17
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I was cleaning my keyboard and I thought you might want to know what it said.

>>19
/g/ Quality

>>19
thanks, man.
i did want to know

People really shouldn't use linux.  It wastes so much of your fucking time it's not even funny.


In python class at school(laugh all you want) the teacher thought it was an interesting idea to duel boot ubuntu with windows on all the computers.  I stuck to windows while everyone else used ubuntu including a hax0r friend of mine(lol).

It was near the end of the semester and we were all onto pygame and graphical stuff.  So my friend writes a simple pygame script from our books and the program on his UBANTOO and this comes up:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\test.py", line 1, in <module>
    import pygame
ImportError: No module named pygame

Well, simple solution.  Go to the UBINTOO package manager and install pygame.  Check it off.  Apply.  Wait 5 minutes for the download, configure, what ev.  Run the program and:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\test.py", line 1, in <module>
    import pygame
ImportError: No module named pygame

well, what the fuck.  I thought we just installed it.  The problem was it was for a different version of python(it doesn't say it on the package manager).  So we look for one for python 2.4(because UBANTUZ didn't come with 2.6, nor could we update it or else it would go to 3.SHIT).  So we decide to download it from the pygame website.  Well, I forgot linux makes you build everything from the source, which is really fucking inconvenient but there was no other way.  So dl, and get into terminal, and we try make and all that shit, run the program

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\test.py", line 1, in <module>
    import pygame
ImportError: No module named pygame

Well I guess we compiled it, but didn't 'install' it.  God damn it.  So let's go to the python folder... which is... where the hell is it.  Bin? Usr? why isn't there one place for programs like in windows?  at least windows does this right.  So a quick search reveals the folder and we drag and drop it into the right python folder.

HOLY SHIT FINALLY IT WORKS.

Why the fuck did we have to go through all that shit just to get pygame running.  On windows it takes less then 3 YES 3 minutes.  pygame.org -> downloads -> pygame_autoinstall_windows_python_2.4.exe -> next -> next -> next -> FUCKIN DONE

A little brain dead, mind you, but it gets it working in a small amount of time compared to the shit-fest that is linux.
/rant

>>22
Yeah. I agree with you. And the location of everything and directories are different depending upon which Unix or Unix-like system you use. This is nothing new, and has been a problem for years. But, then again, Unix was never meant to be "user friendly" in the first place.

>>22
You are an idiot if that is your only argument against linux, especially since you should have checked you had the modules in the first place and anyone with a brain either already knows the version number of python they are using or would check it first.
Also, Ubuntu != Linux

>>22
I don't know, maybe it's because I'm drunk, but this post really touched me. We haven't seen much like this around here lately.

>>24
Ha.  Only argument against linux.  If I told you my every gripe with linux it wouldn't fit in this thread.

If you even read my post I told you the pygame package didn't have a version number on it.  I just assumed it would work with the version of python that came with the OS.  I already knew what version anyhow if you were reading(which you obviously weren't).  Stop protecting your shitty OS.

>>22

Jesus

Just use easy_install.py

Idiot.

You don't use Linux for day-to-day desktop use, and you don't apply casual upgrades.  You build a server to spec and occasionally rebuild it to integrate new features.  Anyone who wants a smooth experience with constant adaptation and the ability to ignore all the little pieces should pay a vendor to take care of that for them.

Also, lol'd at Windows “[having] one place for programs”.

How does I shot install?

Windows: Download install.exe, agree to TOS, next-next-next-next-next, done.

Linux: Download blah.tar.gz, extract, configure, make, make install, go to bed and hope it's done by morning.

>>29
fail troll is fail

have some sage with that sir

Linux is like a bike in world of computer-controlled cars. Every other (non-unix) consumer OS has already automated the aspects of user interaction to provide robust, scalable, modern turnkey implementations of flexible, personalized, cutting-edge Internet-enabled e-business application product suite e-solution architectures that accelerate response to customer and real-world market demands and reliably adapt to evolving technology needs, seamlessly and efficiently integrating and synchronizing with their existing legacy infrastructure, enhancing the e-readiness capabilities of their e-commerce production environments across the enterprise while giving them a critical competitive advantage and taking them to the next level.

>>31
what ?

>>29-30
Back to /g/, please.

I can't believe that nobody noticed that the code examples written by >>22 are from a Windows machine.

"C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\test.py"
"C:\Documents and settings\"
"C:\"

So was Windows who failed finding the pygame module?

YHBT

>>34 here

code examples

Sorry, I meant error messages

>>34
haha

>>22
10/10 will copy+pasta again

UBANTU IS FULL OF RICKROLLS! SUSHI

Why people shouldn't run Ubantu
Because it's based on Debian

>>38
Debian is an ancient African saying that means "I want to run software which is obsolete and has lots of well-known bugs."

I like Ubantu because it just works. Yes, I have heard of all kinds of problems. No, after two years of using it, I have encountered none of these problems. Doesn't work for you? Well, I don't give a flying Philadelphia fuck, go find another OS and be happy with it. I'm happy with Ubantu.

ck, go find another OS and be happy with it. I'm happy with Ubantu. se it's based on DebianWell, I don't give a flying Philadelphia fuck,

You have to complete the template. Perhaps I should write it as:

template <string T>
string lickingMeme()
{
   return ("MY " + T + " DONT NEED LICKING";
}

>>42
You have to complete the function. Perhaps you should write it as:

template <std::string T>
std::string lickingMeme() {
    return ("MY " + T + " DONT NEED LICKING");
}

I have a Nokia N810. I have so much fun hacking the Maemo OS on this device. It's seriously a great portable computer for the hackers among us.

>>44
What is the keyboard for it like? I'm too lazy to search the web for weird spoilers of its hardware or user interface. Can you comfortably type C code on it, or should I switch to another language like Ada or Pascal that favors keywords over punctuation?

>>34
Well, this shows how far /prog/ has fallen

_{myself.h included}  

tweet@46 Im gonna help u fix it

>>45
The keyboard fine for extended (>1 hour) Internet usage like the web, e-mail, IRC and Jabber. It's also fine to write notes that are a couple of paragraphs long. There is no way I would write anything longer than a trivial one liner using the N810's keyboard. I write code and build binaries using a desktop PC.

Some annoyances with the keyboard are:
The top row of keys are too close to screen edge making things clumsy to target them.
It's clumsy to hit the correct key because there isn't any gap between each key.
I think there isn't enough tactile feedback when depressing the keys making the typing experience less satisfying than its potential.

Despite these failings, the keyboard is far superior to touch screens with tactile feedback.

>>48
Are there other devices you know of with better keyboards that are still no bigger than a DVD case (if that)? I'd like to be able to do programming on the road, but I don't want to carry a full sized laptop or even a netbook.

after four years of gentoo, and a few of slack before that I'm on ubantu.  got tired of gentoo's festering release issues.  I don't really think it's any easier than gentoo, but then I'm a tiling wm fag, so all the gnome goodies are just bloat

>>39
ssh-keygen

>>50
Gentoo is for true men, so you are not a true man.

EXPERT GENTOO COMPILER

Also, posting from Lynx for the lulz.

>>49
You could try a tablet PC. They tend to be Windows systems though and therefore, hard to hack.

If you think the N810's CPU speed, primary storage space and secondary storage space are adequate for your programming needs, you could get a bluetooth keyboard for the N810. I have no experience using bluetooth keyboards so I can't comment on them.

The N810's hardware is inadequate for my hacking requirements. If I wanted mobile hacking, I'd bring my Lenovo S10. The N810 is a very portable and easily hackable machine, but I treat it like a limited resource computing system and leverage the power of more capable (though less portable) machines.

>>50 http://nixos.org/
I use NixOS, a distro that's managed by Nix. IMO, the Nix system is far superior to Portage.

tweet@53 you can hack anywhere. size doesnt matter, you can buy external keybord

I run a site with over a million hits a day on ubuntu.
Sure as fuck wouldn't ruin, I mean run it on Windows.
Shit just works and works well.

tweet@56 cool. what site name?

>>57
http://deemunzaccess.on.nimp.org/index.html

Well, simple solution.  Go to the UBINTOO package manager and install pygame.  Check it off.  Apply.  Wait 5 minutes for the download, configure, what ev.  Run the program and:

This isn't a good idea. Distro repos usually have laughably outdated libs for Python/Ruby/Haskell/etc. You need to use their own ``package managers'' (although Python's is a fucking trainwreck; I am impressed that they managed to make something that sucks more than Ruby gems).

>>58
Back to /g/, please.

tweet@58 site has virus. dont click

>>60
Study the context dude. Next time, use the force.

>>59
Context please. Formal learning materials move slower than distro repos.

>>59
Distro repos usually have laughably outdated libs for Python/Ruby/Haskell
Why on earth would you want to program in those academic functional languages?

59
What a great blatant trolling attempt.

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