How can i stay invisable on the internet so that not even the fbi can find me. I use tor and use simple browsers like w3m. I use cgi proxys. I dont use my normal email or anything else when i do this that could link me to anything. what else can i do? what should i read about? any links or books i should read?
Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs (SICP) is a textbook published in 1984 isent this outdated?
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Anonymous2009-08-03 18:47
You can't do that comfortably, the highest authorities can track you by your MAC address, and it's assigned to hardware. So you'd have to change the computer/modem often.
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Anonymous2009-08-03 18:52
ill have to read up on MACs i thought those where only used in wireless. your MAC is shown when you use TOR? I assumed that if they where not watching you it would be invisible using TOR.
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Anonymous2009-08-03 18:54
how do they know your MAC anyways is that sent to your ISP?
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Depends. If both the library's and Starbucks' routers keep decent logs, yes. The ISPs' logs wouldn't be of much use.
However, a MAC address is very easy to spoof. (But then again you're using an Apple computer, so you probably wouldn't know how to.)
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Anonymous2009-08-03 20:11
many of us dont get the fair chance at an education. makeing fun of someone becouse of there grammar dosent solve anything. I never got to pass the 6th grade and im 20 now learning whatever i can and am doing my best to get by.
as to the multiple threads how did you know i posted that? im new to 4chan and of i knew a way to identify people here it would be very valuable. I did that because I wasent sure witch section to put it in.
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Anonymous2009-08-03 20:14
someone once told me that you cant change your MAC address only spoof it so you cant see it is this true?
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Anonymous2009-08-03 20:20
>>18
I'm not making fun of you. You need an education. Read and become learned.
i don't see how someone on the other side of the internet could possibly get your MAC address from a normally formed packet.
sounds like complete bullshit; the kind of retarded thing you hear on /g/
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Anonymous2009-08-03 20:36
sounds like complete bullshit; the kind of retarded thing you hear on /prog/
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Anonymous2009-08-03 20:44
>>21
Then you cannot learn. Learn the basics first then move to the harder stuff later.
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Anonymous2009-08-03 21:09
I think that kid from 5 years ago was trying to use soicial enginereing on me when he said you cant change your mac address. becouase i just did it and my router reports a new one. i used macchanger. at the time i did change it to get into the schools wireless but i dident know it was actually blocking my mac for sure lol.
is there a way to find out if someones useing a spoofed mac?
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Anonymous2009-08-03 21:10
or sm i golden with this?
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Anonymous2009-08-03 21:16
If you want to be truly anonymous, get a laptop exclusively for anonymous activity, and only use it with unsecured wifi networks. Never use it on any network you have legitimate access to, never visit sites with it that have your actual personal information, never use it at/near your workplace, and avoid having the same browsing pattern that you do on your home/work computer.
You should also take precautions against plainclothes officers looking over your shoulder (or confiscating your laptop) in a public area, but that part is up to you. In other words, if you do something that manages to get their attention, that's your own stupid fault.
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Anonymous2009-08-03 21:24
everything that you just mentioned in the right scinero I would have known enuf to do. but whats wrong with cracking someones wep and useing there secured wireless?
and is there anything im missing about annoymas at home? or tor is the best i can do without any programming experience.
When I plug a cable modem in, doesn't the router essentially become part of the ISP network?
I know when I change the MAC address of the router I can get a new IP address, but if I unplug it and plug it back in with the same MAC the IP address remains the same (even upon release/renew), so it detects it somehow.
I believe some cable providers also are able to detect how many devices are on the network as well. A few years ago my provider charged a fee for sharing the connection between multiple computers. Not sure how that would work, and I think using software internet sharing was undetectable.
If you have the router as the gateway server, it would see multiple computers on the network(read about ARP), so it would have to serve to multiple boxes, each with their own MAC.
There are 2 solutions to this problem:
1)Don't connect the router to the network or don't have it route packets for more than one box. Have the other box act as a gateway/router.
2)Modify your router's firmware to not report network layout to your ISP.
But why would you even use ISPs with such retarded policies?
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Anonymous2009-08-03 23:34
Right. So an ISP could potentially track a single network card (assuming the MAC wasn't spoofed each time) across multiple connections.
So Starbucks may very well know that last week I was watching donkey porn on my laptop in one location, and today I was working on my PhD thesis at a different location.
Fortunately my PhD thesis involves donkey porn, so I'm not worried. Just good to know.
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Anonymous2009-08-03 23:39
just get a dedicated usb wireless adapter for using public internet connections
>>41 I don't, and I get much faster connection speeds (10-30Mbps downstream and less than half that speed downstream) than what most US ISPs offer. I've only heard of one local ISP doing something so stupid, but why would I use such crap?
>>45
Proof that you have no idea about the situation here. In most (developed) European countries, we pay twice as much for about half the speed most people have in AmeriKKKa, and this is for ADSL, meaning that (a) upspeed will be slow as fuck and (b) if you come anywhere near 90% saturation of either up- or downlink, the other link suffers massive latency problems.
>>46 In most (developed) European countries, we pay twice as much for about half the speed most people have in AmeriKKKa
What? No, no you don't. At all. The Internet situation is absolutely laughable in all of North America. I did an extensive research on this once, and just about every country in Europe had higher speed for much much less. If I recall correctly, Sweden was one of the best country for that.
And you also have no throttling at all.
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Anonymous2009-08-04 20:16
>>36 MAC address of the router I can get a new IP address, but if I unplug it and plug it back in with the same MAC the IP address remains the same
oh, for fuck sake.
do you even know what DHCP is?
this thread makes me facepalm
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