>>4
Emacs is great! >>1
Neither, but Netbeans is pushed more at my university.
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Anonymous2009-03-25 18:52
I probably wouldn't use emacs if I wasn't so addicted to elisp
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Anonymous2009-03-25 19:02
Netbeans with JRuby or Scala plug-ins. The end result is a .jar file to run on the JVM, which is the real point of the exercise.
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Anonymous2009-03-25 19:03
I probably wouldn't use elisp if I wasn't so addicted to emacs
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Anonymous2009-03-25 19:04
I probably wouldn't use heroin if I wasn't so addicted to heroin
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Anonymous2009-03-25 19:45
>>11 I probably wouldn't use needles if I wasn't so addicted to heroin
Fixed that for you. If you're going to post, by which I mean, "troll," you should at least learn how to have a brain and do it properly, so you actually get some lulz for your effort. 0/10 kill yourself.
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Anonymous2009-03-25 20:15
Eclipse
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Anonymous2009-03-25 20:16
Yeah you end up using Netbeans but by using Emacs you become a hacker elite. Emacs is as much a way of life as a compute environment.
Don't cheat yourself use Emacs.
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Anonymous2009-03-25 20:22
XCODE lets you use emacs but then Apple was aligned with FSF pretty early and still works with them.
I remember when SUN was pushing their own IDE and bashing Emacs, never sat well with me but obviously, back then especially, it was all about IP and providing an IDE (they used to charge for them) so backing the FSF was not their gameplan.
Emacs is great and getting better, there are things it does that are not even possible with Netbeans an Eclipse also once you cross over to really controlling your server and the software, including SE and documentation, emacs is the one stop shop. For running your consulting or software firm again Emacs has no peers especially for someone who wants to operate on the move.
>>17
The architects and authors of the Olympic Jihad against software freedom.
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Anonymous2009-03-25 20:42
>>18
You mean that toy platform where the only apps that make money are the ones that make fart noises?
I'm sure there's a market for the Fibonacci sequence, as well.
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Anonymous2009-03-25 20:46
>>16
Macs are easier to make money with as an independent also for consultants Apple/Mac is the way to go; Apple Store for support, easy to use platform that, next to Ubuntu, is by far the most user friendly and out of the box complete. Apple store has constant tutorials to improve your clients understanding of the system thereby increasing your revenue. Bottom line you can ssh from the beach and control _all_ the systems you work with and the dev is all free. You write the software correctly it works across all platforms out there so you can navigate in all markets. Plus Java, java is built in from the start, java is managed very well from Apple (a little behind at times) and with JavaFX you have RIA across platforms.
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Sure why not, fart apps for $700k what is wrong with that?
Bottom line most java is J2EE or the dream of J2EE which is transaction monitoring and business rules. So nothing fancy just accounting and inventory control and documentation. So in the end it a fart of a different color.
Ahh you guys are all fighting over 21st century Cobol editors and which version windowy fail you like better. Get with it Python, Django, and Linux is the future.
Java Losers.
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Anonymous2009-03-25 21:15
Netbeans it has the best pluggins.
Eclipse is falling behind.
The will trade pole position again, so in the end be ready to move.
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Anonymous2009-03-25 21:29
SICP
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Anonymous2009-03-25 21:30
>>25 Python, Django, and Linux is the future.
What's your time estimate on that? Linux has been touted as "being the future" for over a decade now.
Most people won't use python since is 10x slower than java and 20x slower than c++, I don't see that changing anytime soon.
No comment on Django beause really, who gives a shit IHBT
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Anonymous2009-03-25 21:45
>>28
Already here, whole Internet running on it.
Fast enoguh for the web and can run python in the JVM too but it is rapid dev so if the performance improves being hosted on Java7 or if not who cares did not stop youtube they just use psycho when they needed performance.
Django and Python yeah Google gives a shit.
World has already changed you just got left behind.
if (emacs >= Netbeans || emacs >= Eclipse) {
I don't use emacs because I assume it's shit. So to expand my knowledge, please enlighten me how emacs can do massive, multi-file Java refactoring, and can suggest and auto-complete based on data types and parameters. Also please explain how emacs has improved at all in the last 10 years.
Regards, }
>>39
YHBT. Really. Don't ever ever again repeat this mistake.
Because explaining how any decent IDE (not to mention a superior IDE like MSVS when applied to a superior IDE-friendly language like C#) is better than their petrified mammoths' shit is EXACTLY like explaining the benefits of Vim or Emacs to a guy who edits his code in notepad. Really, however cunning and persuasive your arguments may be, he could and would dismiss it with a simple "that shit is for pussies, real programmers have no need to use it". "That shit" could stand for a code hilighting, smart indent, ctags, whatever. If he haven't use it, he could always say that he haven't use it and still managed to get things done, so what's the point?
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Anonymous2009-03-27 17:43
>>41
YHBT. Really. Don't ever ever again repeat this mistake.