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vi > emacs

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-29 19:21

:fuckyou

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-29 19:28

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-29 19:57

Programmer-friendly GUI tools > 70's freewares

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-29 20:24

>>3
In other news, unicorns > horses. Enjoy your mythological softwares.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-29 20:59

>>4

Enjoy your lack of productivity.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-29 21:05

>>5
But that is my favorite buzzword. :(

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-29 21:06

You forgot to escape from insert mode.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-29 22:19

>>1
ed > vi > emacs

>>2
sed -E 's/([bcdfghjklmnpqrstvwxz])([^a-z]|$)/\1u\2/Ig;s/([lrsmn])+/\1/Ig;s/l/r/Ig'|tr a-z A-Z

>>3
Programmer-friendly GUI tools
do not (yet) exist.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 4:53

>>8
Textmate. Watch the screencasts.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 4:56

vim > vi > emacs

but i'm only saying that because i love vim so that love brushes off onto vi because it is POSIX and present on all systems i use, emacs is superior but it also packs a lot of shit that would never make it a posix compliant editor

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 5:07

viper mode for emacs, anyone?

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 5:30

Textmate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textmate
# Large (many megabyte) files can slow TextMate considerably. Other editors have better support for large files.
also,
License     Proprietary

>>10
ex-vi > nvi > levee > elvis > se > ed > gnu ed > freedos edlin > mg > vim > emacs

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 5:47

>>12
Enjoy your freedom to edit huge files with cumbersome freewares while the rest of the world gets actual shit done.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 5:53

>>13
Enjoy your dicking about with a toy one-button mouse waiting for your editor because the idiots in India don't think it's a bad idea to put 80MB of code in one file while the rest of the world gets actual shit done.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 7:12

>>14
My two quad-cores do not make me wait at all. Enjoy your Dell.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 7:35

>>15
newsflash, dell has multicore and multicpu systems too

if you really want to get hardcore, dell precision has a rack mounted workstation, a fucking monster like most of the precision systems

and yes, i work dell enterprise support, i am biased as hell

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 7:55

>>16
Enjoy your displays, that's the only stuff you guys do right.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 7:56

>>15
when was the last time you tried opening an 80MB file?

Name: Some indian guy 2008-10-30 7:59

>>17
I will, along with his job.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 8:27

>>15
My 8-core IBM server doesn't make me wait at all either.
And unlike your Mac, it doesn't rape me in the ass.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 9:21

>>18
If you're still talking about textmate, it would choke on it no matter the computer specs. I tried to open a big sql dump with it recently, to see how slow it would be (quite).
Some modern editors are not meant for large files. That's not a reason not to use them for normal work, it's always possible to switch to a specialized editor meant for huge files when necessary.

Anyway, when editing huge text data files the first choice pretty much always involves awk and sed. Those are really worth learning, unlike 70'S FREEWARES that are a royal pain to fit in a modern workflow and to use with a one-button mouse.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 9:38

Anyway, when editing huge text data files the first choice pretty much always involves awk and sed. Those are really worth learning, unlike 70'S FREEWARES that are a royal pain to fit in a modern workflow and to use with a one-button mouse.
http://www.morphine.com/blog/?p=29
and ex is worth learning, too, since it's an enhanced version of ed. and once you've learned ex, learning vi is trivial.

also, your "modern" workflow is stuck in the 90s. ditch the mouse. just using the keyboard is a lot more efficient.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 10:28

also, your "modern" workflow is stuck in the 90s. ditch the mouse. just using the keyboard is a lot more efficient.
Agreed 100%.

Switching between the mouse and keyboard consumes quite a bit of time, not to mention it gets tiring after a while. I've found that even reaching for the arrow keys is tiresome compared to hjkl.

I've developed this sort of habit where I instinctively type ^[:wi every 10 minutes or so.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 11:04

>>22
I have a little trouble using Photoshop with only the keyboard.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 11:13

learning vi is trivial.
Memorizing a large amount of trivia is never trivial. It's just like the Dvorak layout: nerdy NEETs love them only because they require a long initial commitment, so they can show off their skills at using something that looks alien and unusable to their less nerdy friends. Just kidding, they have none.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 12:30

>>24
Well duh. Graphics are supposed to be edited graphically, and text, textually.

Though a command line in Photoshop would be awesome. Instead of fidgeting with the mouse while watching the coordinates to get it exactly right, just type "300 400 cursorto".

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 12:39

>>23
If you're spending most of your time in insert mode you're using vi wrong.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 14:07

>>23
Switching between the mouse and keyboard consumes quite a bit of time

Somehow, I doubt that.

>>27
You mean to say that vi is useless for actually writing things? I agree.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 15:32

>>26
Oh hi the 1970s called and wanted their TURTLE GRAPHICS back. Also every serious technical drawing package ever.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 15:46

>>26
If you're spending most of your time in mouse mode you're using photoshop wrong.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 16:48

>>30
Not really. It has always been intended to be used with one hand on the keyboard and one on the stylus or mouse. That's why they make as many commands as possible use only one keystroke.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 16:50

jEdit > why-the-fuck-are-you-still-using-that-crap

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 16:56

>>32
Loled. That's as retarded as Textmate.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 16:59

ITT: the editor I happen to use > the editors I have never used and therefore shouldn't be able to sensibly judge

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 17:11

>>34
Ah, you mean vimmers.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 17:12

>>35
Are you saying that vimmers are mean, or that >>34 "means" vimmers? Please clarify.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 17:16

>>34
Why would we use inferior editors since they are inferior?

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 17:18

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Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 17:23

>>35
Thank you for pointing out my ambiguity: I am saying that the sentiments expressed in >>34 are likely those of vimmers.

Name: Anonymous 2008-10-30 17:32

I totally forgot about the tunafish meme

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