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java without eclipse

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-18 18:13

is it possible to be fluent in java and not love eclipse?

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-18 18:30

Xarn is fluent in Java and uses vim.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-18 18:44

Sage for xarn.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-18 20:10

Christopher is fluent in lojban and uses dolphin linux

Name: Christopher Done 2008-09-18 20:37

What is going on here?

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-19 2:06

Well, there's NetBeans.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-19 2:33

>>6
No, there really isn't. Why does a thread about Java and Eclipse with five replies only contain one sage, which is posted for a reason unrelated to Java or Eclipse?

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-19 3:45

>>7
invasion from /pr/. it's been going on for quite a while, don't you remember all that spamming of shitty threads? just ignore them and maybe they'll go back to 7chan.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-19 8:23

>>7,8
Same fag.

Java+Eclipse goes hand in hand

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-19 10:20

Java

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-19 11:59

Java

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-19 13:01

You won't be very productive with Java without a good IDE. Eclipse or NetBeans will help you get the syntax cruft out of the way and speed up refactoring.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-19 15:34

exactly

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-19 15:52

more like Shitclipse and NetBloat huh

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-19 16:41

>>12
my IDE is vim

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-19 16:59

>>15
Don't worry. It's nothing you should be ashamed of. Everybody has their little fetish. I'm into a little dash of masochism myself.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-19 17:02

>>14
Well, they both are written in Java and try to fit into the [b][u][i]ENTERPRISE SOLUTION[/b][/u][/i] paradigm.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-19 17:13

Eclipse is pretty good.

The only glaring thing that really sucks shitfucking ass balls is that something like SWT (that defers to OS widgets) isn't included in the standard JRE, and their AWT/Swing bullshit does the whole fucking renderer to its own bitmaps and has to reinvent every fucking OS wheel it runs on.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-19 17:14

>>15
Listen to this man.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-19 17:21

>>15
>>19
[u][b][i][aa]LOOK AT ANGRY VIMMERS[/i][/b][/u]

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-19 17:22

VIMMERS

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-19 17:27

>>20
My meme =O

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-20 6:48

>>20
People who are not capable of writing a program without Visual Studio or Eclipse have no business programming.  That said, vim is the weapon of choice for many serious programmers.  Fag.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-20 8:33

>>23
People who are not capable of digging a ditch without a CAT or Komatsu have no business digging. That said, a shovel is the weapon of choice for serious construction workers. Fag.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-20 9:14

>>24
People who are not capable of sneaking through a nuclear weapons disposal facility without full equipment or a map have no business in infiltrating. That said, a tranquilizer is the weapon of choice for serious legendary infiltrators. Fag.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-20 17:00

>>25
People who are not capable of producing documentaries without video equipment or a sound team have no business presenting wild life. That said, using a wet pencil and the back of a native is the weapon of choice for many serious wild life enthusiasts.

Name: lol !8mQB/2odm6 2008-09-23 12:25

>>4
I'm not Christopher.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-23 12:32

>>24
A well-configured vim in the right hands is much more powerful than Eclipse or Visual Studio.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-23 12:54

>>18
something like SWT (that defers to OS widgets) isn't included in the standard JRE
This isn't a problem with Eclipse. Sun releases the "standard JRE" and they're the idiots who invented Swing/AWT, so they really have no incentive to include SWT. And regardless, SWT is licensed under the Eclipse Public License, which isn't compatible with the rest of the GPL-licensed JDK.

And if you're actually shipping a program that uses SWT, you can shrink it down to around 1MB and distribute it with your app.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-23 13:57

>>29
AFAIK, IBM had released SWT before AWT came about.  But Sun was bitchy about "Not Invented Here", so they made their own pile of steaming shit.

See also:  Sun writing the java.util.logging shitpile instead of just using org.apache.log4j.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-23 17:05

AFAIK, IBM had released SWT before AWT came about.
That is not correct: AWT dates back to JDK 1.01 (circa 1996), and SWT was developed sometime in the late 1990s as an alternative to Swing2.

                                                   
1. http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/awt/package-summary.html#package_description
2. http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Why_does_Eclipse_use_SWT%3F

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-23 23:28

I have to use this for my programming class and I fucking hate it. Slow as fuck and so bloated it blots out the Sun.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-23 23:38

>>28
But of course, still inferior to Emacs.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-24 2:03

>>33

Natürlich

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-24 14:34

>>33
i used emacs for a lisp class a year ago

unfortunately i only have ten digits on my hands so i am incapable of using most of emacs' more powerful tools and functions because i cannot hit that many buttons at once

once i considered building a keyboard that could queue keystrokes and release all the queued symbols at once with the press of a special flush button

but i looked at my hands and said to myself, "hand warmers. gloves." and switched back to vim

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-24 14:47

>>35
Kindly get thee back to the daily WTF

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-24 15:40

>>35
I see the problem. When it says "M-x here's-a-long-command", you're not supposed to press all those at once. Just the M-x part, then you type the rest. Happy to help.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-24 20:22

but i looked at my hands and said to myself, "hand warmers. gloves."

( ゚ ヮ゚) Do you mean mittens?

Name: ( ゚ ヮ゚) 2008-09-24 23:15

>>38
No, I did not.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 3:28

>>38
I'm sorry, there is no VIP or even DQN QUALITY here :|

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 15:10

Is it possible to love eclipse at all?

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 15:31

>>41
Not if you are a LISP-fag.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-25 15:47

>>42
besides?

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-26 4:25

>>28
OMG you found a flaw in my analogy. Woe is me.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-28 10:57

Java

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-29 7:46

someone care to tell how i can compile and run in vim with one command (preferably user-defined)?

I'd usually go "!javac WhatImWorkingOn.java", then "!java WhatImWorkingOn".

This is slow.

I could see this becoming difficult because I'd need to truncate the ".class" off the filename. Make grep can be used in concurrence? Anyone got any tips?

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-29 8:09

>>46
$ javac WhatImWorkingOn.java && java WhatImWorkingOn

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-29 9:05

>>46
This might be of interest to you:

:h cmdline-special
:h filename-modifiers

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-29 12:08

>>47,48

DON'T HELP HIM!

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-29 12:53

>>46
ever hear of a shell script, faggot?

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-29 13:00

>>50
Ever heard of .vimrc, faggot?
set tabstop=4
set textwidth=80
set pt=<F9>
set tags=tags;.
set number
set numberwidth=4
let b:is_mzscheme=1
run mzscheme-qf.vim
sy on

function SetLispIndent()
    set nocindent
    set autoindent   
    set lisp
endf

function SetCIndent()
    set nolisp
    set cino=>4,=0,l1,b1,h0,(0,w1,W4,m1,U1
    set noautoindent
    set cindent
endf

function _SwitchIndent(filename)
    if match(a:filename, ".scm$") == -1
        call SetCIndent()
    else
        call SetLispIndent()
    endif
endf

command SwitchIndent call _SwitchIndent(expand("%"))
if !exists("autocommands_loaded")
    let autocommands_loaded = 1
    autocmd BufRead * SwitchIndent
endif

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-29 13:04

>>51
mzscheme-qf.vim:
set tabstop=4
set textwidth=80
set pt=<F9>
set tags=tags;.
set number
set numberwidth=4
let b:is_mzscheme=1
run mzscheme-qf.vim
sy on

function SetLispIndent()
    set nocindent
    set autoindent   
    set lisp
endf

function SetCIndent()
    set nolisp
    set cino=>4,=0,l1,b1,h0,(0,w1,W4,m1,U1
    set noautoindent
    set cindent
endf

function _SwitchIndent(filename)
    if match(a:filename, ".scm$") == -1
        call SetCIndent()
    else
        call SetLispIndent()
    endif
endf

command SwitchIndent call _SwitchIndent(expand("%"))
if !exists("autocommands_loaded")
    let autocommands_loaded = 1
    autocmd BufRead * SwitchIndent
endif

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-29 13:06

>>46
ಠ_ಠ

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-30 2:34

<MrVacBob> the worst part about eclipse is having to tell your parents you use a program written in java

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-30 7:27

>>54
I love MrVacBob-sama.

I should start hanging out in #4chan more.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-30 7:47

>>55
Homosexuality does this sometimes. You should get yourself checked by a doctor just in case.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-30 21:05

I love MrVacBob-osama.

Fuck off with your crazy moon language.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-18 14:44

>>17
Stop calling me a faggot, faggot.

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