I realize it's incredibly clunky and forces you to do a lot of really annoying shit you might otherwise not want to do, and it's underdocumented conventions that you're FORCED to adhere are really, really fucking annoying, but once you get used to it and learn the dumbass hoops it is surprisingly robust and makes webapp development easy and fun.
and now that mod_rails is out the ridiculous difficulty of deploying onto apache with a shared hosting environment is pretty much gone too... things are really looking up for it.
I'm pretty much positive I'm going to get a lot of flak for this thread (a lot of people hate ruby with a passion), but I really do like rails.
I don't hate Ruby, I hate the Ruby hipster fags that can't shut up about it. I mean, get a fucking room, already. You know, before enaging in trance-like masturbation.
Rails is great. The reason it seems to only attract people who love to run Textmate on a Macbook is because it is only suitable for people who care about quality and comfort. People who willingly run Linux and command-line text editors have no hope to ever understand those benefits.
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Anonymous2008-06-12 23:36
>>15
2/10, that won't work much on /prog/ but you could have some success on /g/.
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Anonymous2008-06-12 23:55
Trails. It's Java on Rails. Fuck Ruby.
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Anonymous2008-06-13 0:51
What we really need is Io on Rails.
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Anonymous2008-06-13 1:03
>>18
What we need is 'A good web framework for Io'.
Also, WHYAMIPOSTINGHERE[/spoiler]
>>16
Sorry, reality tends to lack entertainment value. Hating Ruby and Python is the cool thing to do around here only because they are popular. Too bad they get shit done in the real world.
Ruby only became popular because of Rails. It was sort of a fad. Now most other programming languages also have a framework which is largely based on Rails. So now you can just use Python and Django, until the next fad.
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Anonymous2008-06-13 6:09
>>28
I think >>26 was making a so-called `joke' based on the stellar performance of darcs, which is very typical of programs written in the Ruby programming language.
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Anonymous2008-06-13 6:18
I'm pretty sure Ruby on Rails can suck my dick.
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Anonymous2008-06-13 6:26
I remember RoR being a bit annoying to work with because you can only send one GET parameter (the id), so you'd have to save any parameters you wanted to send to a page in the session instead.