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Cudder, HAHAHaruhi, and !w4lolitaKs2008-05-05 23:42
Readers! Realize a reality rendered repugnant by the repression of reckless relentless regimes. Realize the retrogress of society, a reprehensible rabble of retardation and revolting reluctance. Really? Reevaluate and reconsider. Reexamine the results of today and recall remnants of yesterday. Rise, rebel, and retaliate against regression! A rebirth, redemptive and refreshing. Refuse to react without reason. Rather, rehabilitate the mind and restore knowledge and intelligence. Resurrect progress and never regret. Take the route of restless revival. Reinitiate The Revolution.
Cudder, I asked you for pics last time and you never responded. What gives?
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Anonymous2008-05-06 8:08
I am honoured by the fact that the venerable Cudder is using the trip I invented.
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Anonymous2008-05-06 9:42
Alright cdr, we've waited for your moar details. It's after May 5, and I don't see them here or on the REchan. Are you prepared to convince us of your project's value? Because I feel kind of indifferent to it. :|
>>19 2. Anonbinutils: C compiler, assembler, and linker. Replaces GCC's C compiler
and GNU binutils.
LOL. Have fun writting a C compiler. Oh god the fail.
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Anonymous2008-05-06 20:01
Whenever I here of these stupid ``projects'' I violently vomit [spoiler]EVERYWHERE[/spoiler].
There are much better things which could be written. ``Better'' as in both ``might actually stand a chance of being completed'' and ``if completed will actually be useful''. Fucking idiot faggots.
So the plan pretty much shows they have no idea what they're talking about. Somehow I'm not surprised.
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Anonymous2008-05-06 22:07
Something tells me this will be exactly the same as that other "anonymous" linux distro.
This is what happens when newfags start elevating anonymity to the concept of a god. These guys sound just like partyvan.
"Everything will be so much better because we're anonymous, for some reason that will help the code and all". Bullshit. I'd put money on there not being anything ever, enjoy your system Optimized for nonexistence.
Anyone who's been around longer than six months knows the best days of /prog/ were rank with namefaggotry.
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Anonymous2008-05-06 22:29
ANONIX. STILL BETTER THAN THE HURD.
Name:
Anonymous2008-05-06 22:48
How is ANONYX going to do un's?
Nigga still gonna have names
>>26
Well, I dunno
At least Stallman isn't just copypastaing Slackware or something
His manifesto is everywhere they wanna be
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Anonymous2008-05-06 22:56
2. Anonbinutils: C compiler, assembler, and linker. Replaces GCC's C compiler and GNU binutils.
3. Anonlibc: Standard C library. Replace glibc.
Uh, how about writing anonlibc before anonbinutils? I have a feeling that >>20 is right.
Name:
Anonymous2008-05-06 23:07
>>18
Except it's not. It's buried in some bullshit "welcome to the revolution" page that looks exactly like every other bullshit link on the site.
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!w4lolitaKs2008-05-07 0:34
>>20
``
I have 20 years programming experience writing HUGE Programs that you couldnt even comprehend. I wrote an ANSI C compiler when I was 12 years old.
You should just accept everything I say, I dont HAVE to give any reasons for my arguments because I am an EXPERT PROGRAMMER.''
Well, Anonix is certainly going to be your chance to prove you're an EXPERT PROGRAMMER.
BTW I already have the scanner and a bit of the front-end parser written.
>>23
Like what? In the first incarnation of REchan, the A/cu thread got prety damn big and successful, a good sign that anonymous software development might actually work. If you wanted to propose a project, you've had the chance to do so ever since REchan began.
>>25
The main reason behind it being anonymous is not because it's ``better'', but as an experiment to see if, just like you guys are willing to post anonymously on this board, you can post code toward a common goal as well. An experiment in anonymous software development.
>>28
We have an /ax/ board. You can discuss the Anonix plan there.
It's official. REchan is now almost entirely dedicated to the Anonix project.
>>31
code_guidelines.txt: - Use C89. Do NOT use GNU extensions, ANONIX is not GNU. Pre-ISO C is acceptable if you prefer the style, but not mandatory.
C89 IS pre-ISO C. - Conform to POSIX, _strictly_. Where POSIX does not specify or makes several choices, choose the choice which is the simplest to implement and say which one. I.e. no long options, needlessly prefixing program names with g, etc.
So which is it, C89 or POSIX? - Recommended indentation style is as follows: bar+=fubar(foo,bar,100);
Whoa, that's just fucking horrible. Spaces, learn to use them.
One-space indentation is horrible too. - No internationalization. A large amount of GNU bloat is caused by this, and with English continuing to dominate, the ANONIX initial planning group decided against explicitly adding code for this, instead opting to let those few who need it translate themselves.
Holy shit, paul graham?!!?!! Unwarranted self-importance is against the goals of ANONIX.
Lol, hypocrisy.
Plus, just from the little details you have given, I can be 100% certain that you haven't done any kernel work ever, and you really expect others to write shit for you. Which filesystem will you use? What about drivers? TCP/IP implementation? will you support aio? SCTP? For which architecture? Monolithic, microkernel?
As for the name faggotry, assume that shit finaly gets done, how do you prevent me from taking all your code and licencing it under my name? How do I know you won't do that?
Seriously, faggot, gtfo.
>>35
If it's public domain, you're free to take it and license it however you want. It just means you have a harder time claiming copyright infringement of a similarly operating program based on that public code if it can be proven that you've taken public code that was published before your program.
Unwarranted self-importance is against the goals of ANONIX.
Coming from someone who makes every post as Mr. Satori...
- No internationalization. A large amount of GNU bloat is caused by this, and with English continuing to dominate, the ANONIX initial planning group decided against explicitly adding code for this, instead opting to let those few who need it translate themselves.
Does this mean no (POSIX) locale support either?
Unwarranted self-importance
Encyclopedia Dramatica lingo detected. I know because as an old ED sysop, I pretty much memorized the title of all pre-Habbo articles.
>>41
Oh, yes it can, my friend. Just keep watching.
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Anonymous2008-05-07 11:27
| - No internationalization. A large amount of GNU bloat is caused by this, and with English continuing to dominate, the ANONIX initial planning group decided against explicitly adding code for this, instead opting to let those few who need it translate themselves.
I also suggest we don't support Unicode and only use ASCII. A large amount of GNU bloat is caused by supporting different encodings and converting between them. By only using a single encoding the code will be much simpler. Also, because in ASCII every character can by represented by exactly one byte, you don't have to worry about multi-byte characters.
typical from a meme forcer. can't get your memes forced? spam with a perl script! get banned, cause some more drama, then post with your tripcode in other threads saying "well I am that [legendary/awesome/fucking stupid] guy that created many memes drama bullshit blablabla look at my tripcode ATTENTION ATTENTION".
Most of us here can make /prog/ unusable quite easily, not like your poor attempts.
Continue to do your bullshit, but in the future, when and if you dare to claim some sort of "internet fame" for this shit with your tripcode, I'll just point to this post.
>>280
I doubt he is spamming in order to force a meme, more likely he is spamming to render the thread useless and just included ``hax my anus'' to annoy people. Of course, this is a bannable offence, as per the rules.
Someone decided to dump all the source from the GNU coreutils? Flooding with haxed anus?
>>43
They'll handle UTF-8 and other stuff like Shift_JIS that also prevent null bytes in the middle of strings; the original motivation for that point was so that strings could be treated opaquely without needing to know its encoding etc.
>>35,40
You can discuss the guidelines on our /ax/. I didn't write most of it, w4lolitaKs and HAHAHaruhi did. The kernel stuff isn't going to happen anytime soon, so we only have a vague idea what it'll be; more discussion will happen once we get closer. And >>36 pretty much answered your last point. I don't give a shit what you do with the code. I'm not going to claim any credit for this, beyond setting up the project and letting anon do the rest.
>>44-278
your attempts to make this thread worse than it already was have failed miserably.
a shit thread plus more shit is still a shit thread.
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Anonymous2008-05-08 14:54
>>294
This was a high quality post. /prog/ needs more posters like you.
Thanks for contribution.
But what about my attempt?
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Anonymous2008-05-08 15:19
What the hell was massive enough to be eradicated in over 200 posts?
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Anonymous2008-05-08 15:27
>>296
Hax my anus spam. Alternative and MrVacBob then proceeded to race each other to see who could delete the posts faster, it turns out shiichan's moderation tools fucking suck.
You should see the shit code they've produced so far for this, and that's just a handful of shitty utilities. There's no way this project is going to succeed.
>>357
Anonix has not, is not, and will never be associated with Lulznix. The Anonix planning group is not a member (since ``affiliation'' carries a connotation which some may find unpleasant) of the Lulznix project. We do not represent the views of the Lulznix project.
>>31 The main reason behind it being anonymous is not because it's ``better'', but as an experiment to see if, just like you guys are willing to post anonymously on this board, you can post code toward a common goal as well. An experiment in anonymous software development.
You should've picked a project that isn't totally useless shit. Beause I sure as hell won't be wasting my time writing crappy broken versions of "bloated" GNU tools.
>>367
Why don't you suggest one? If you have an idea, go ahead and say it.
>>368
No, we're just the planning team. The code contributions are all done anonymously. Completely anonymous doesn't work out, we tried that a year or so ago with a *tiny* single-program project (you might remember the thread here on /prog/, see if you can guess which one it was)
>>369
Hahaha, the planning team. Nice one. Anonix is like those hundreds of empty projects on Sourceforge, where someone comes up with an idea, registers the project and then expects others (the so-called "open source community") to flood in and do the work. What a load of shit.
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Anonymous2008-05-12 10:30
>>371
I bet he was looking forward to putting "managed a large international software project" on his resume.
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Anonymous2008-05-12 16:28
>>372
Expert /prog/grammers only have one thing on their resume:
>>371
We have around 40 programmers who shall remain anonymous, doing testing and writing code.
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Anonymous2008-05-16 7:30
IMPORTANT ANONIX UPDATE Hey guys, Cudder is currently busy IRL but development of Anonix still continues.[1]
Any idea how this will affect their shipping schedule? Should I give up and use Ubanto instead? Or will the massive internal development team be able to hold together and take up the slack after losing their fearless leader?
>>375 Hey guys, Cudder is currently busy IN HAHAHaruhi's PANTS, but development of Anonix is still probably going to die now that most of the easy stuff is done.
fixed that for you.
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Anonymous2008-05-16 9:43
>>375 Any idea how this will affect their shipping schedule? Should I give up and use Ubanto instead?
No way, dude. With the massive momentum of the project and all the intellectual potential behind it, it's only a matter of time until "hi my name is FAFAFAfailANIMUfaggot, and I pronounce anonkernel as analkernel."
>>386
What are you talking about? It's clearly more readable that way.
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Anonymous2008-05-16 14:46
>>386
I like the disguised fallthrough. Granted it wouldn't be so bad without the one-space indent nonsense.
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Anonymous2008-05-16 16:07
Indentation is not necessary. It's the primary cause for bloat in the bloated GNU software. Therefore, Anonymous has decided not to indent ANYTHING. EPIC WINNNNN!!1
void sha1last(int lastblocksize) {
*(((char *)&W)+lastblocksize) = 128; // append 1
memset(((char *)&W)+lastblocksize+1,0,63-lastblocksize); // pad with 0
if(lastblocksize>55) { // can't fit len in this block
sha1round(); // hash what we have
L-=64;
memset(W,0,64); // then a zero block
}
L += lastblocksize;
L *= 8; /* endian-dependent -- I'm assuming little-endian here */
W[14] = (((L>>32)&255)<<24)+(((L>>40)&255)<<16)+(((L>>48)&255)<<8)+(L>>56);
W[15] = ((L&255)<<24)+(((L>>8)&255)<<16)+(((L>>16)&255)<<8)+((L>>24)&255);
sha1round(); // hash last block with length
printf("%08x%08x%08x%08x%08x",H0,H1,H2,H3,H4);
}
int sha1file(char *filename) {
int i;
FILE *infile = (filename&&strcmp(filename,"-"))?fopen(filename,"rb"):stdin;
if(!infile) {
perror(filename);
return;
}
>>391 Woah, this thread is still here?
You made it 12 days ago, this isn't /b/.
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Car!kSATORIXr62008-05-17 7:45
>>394
Wait until June, or start writing code and submitting it.
BTW, I'm another one of the Anonix planning group.
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Anonymous2008-05-17 7:48
The best thing we can do is ignore any mention of Anonix. Otherwise it'll only encourage them to post more. The project will eventually dissolve anyway once they get to the difficult bits.
>>418 vi may be POSIX, but [b]ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!
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Anonymous2008-05-18 20:30
>>418
But it's not in the LIST. Because this is anongnufanboyutils.
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!w4lolitaKs2008-05-18 20:46
The editors can wait, we're getting the basics done first.
But we don't think vi should be big enough to deserve its own separate subproject, so eventually it'll be part of anoncoreutils as well.
>>420
That list hasn't been updated for awhile. It'll be replaced by STATUS which you can see in >>407 on the next update.
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Anonymous2008-05-18 21:42
Did you read what the fine 4-ch trolls said? They were serious. It can't be "public domain".
Anyway, you fail. I'd do something else, instead of trying to make a system that will be unusable for a long time (it is unusable right now. how many things can you do now with anoncoreutils?)
>>421
Wat. If the list isn't being updated, where is the latest code? Git? A REChan thread?
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Anonymous2008-05-18 22:15
>>422
REChan thread. The best method of source control for public-domain development.
>>424 you could've joined the semi-private dev team earlier. But you can still submit code to /ac/
How generous of you. I've got another idea, how about nobody joins your retarded project and it just stays dead, apart from the five or so buggy and ugly tools you've already hacked together?
PS: Stop calling yourself Cudder when you don't even know LISP, you tripfag piece of shit.
the team members don't know who wrote what, nor do they know each other.
Untrue. Srsly. HAHAHaruhi, wk4lolita and caddaddr seem to be friends IRL or something. Not a group of random tripfags.
Shit, if you really care about your shitty coreutils, have an anonymous git repo like 4chanproggit and let anyone contribute anonymously. Or make a fucking wiki. Stop doing it so wrong. If you want to experiment with "anonymous software development", make it fucking open, and THEN anonymous. Or at least make it anonymous, and stop using those fucking tripcodes. RAGE. And cudder is not a woman.
>>432
Yeah, we are friends IRL. But that doesn't stop us from not attaching names to what we write.
We are letting anyone contribute anonymously. There's the /coreutils of the prog.git, REchan's /ac/, and if you were paying attention you could've found out how to submit your code via anonymous FTP. We considered a wiki, but decided against on the basis of it being too complicated to maintain for such a simple project.
And I think it's been said many times already, we're posting here with tripcodes because we're the core Anonix team and direct the project. The code is still anonymous. Think what you want of cudder's gender, it doesn't matter.
>>443
Yours is like shameless spam of an unrelated software product. We don't care. We won't help you. We have better things to do, or better ways to waste our time.
Because, anyway, what will you get? A set of cheap imitations of GNU coreutils with less options? You are attacking the bloat in the wrong place. Actually, the main bloat sources in a desktop GNU/Linux system is:
1. The kernel multitasking features and design overall. A non-unix kernel working in real mode will run hundreds of times faster.
2. The X window system, with an obvious feature bloat and an extensive API that nobody uses directly, having two or three extra layers (GUI toolkit, drawing engines, etc)
You may prefer redesigning and rewriting these first.
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Anonymous2008-05-22 20:35
>>445
Speaking of kernel performance, how do the Hurd and the BSDs compare to Linux in that aspect?
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Anonymous2008-05-22 21:23
>>446
Terrible! It's based on an old Mach kernel which is considered to be a very slow first gen uKernel. There were talks about porting Hurd to newer and faster uKernels but nothing came of it.
>>446
The BSD kernels are each developed separately (unlike the Linux kernel), so it's fairly pointless to even attempt to make such a sweeping generalization.
Of all the BSD kernels, the FreeBSD RELENG_7 kernel is generally regarded as the most performant, and in many benchmarks it outperforms the Linux kernel on SMP systems (scaling almost linearly). Other people's benchmarks are, of course, absolute shit, so take it with a grain of salt. I'm a BSD fanatic, so I'm inclined to tell you to hax my anus.
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Anonymous2008-05-22 22:37
>>449
Great setup. I guessed the outcome, though, because of the spoiler's length. Also, when I said "BSDs", I wasn't lumping them together, it's just that it was easier to say than "FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD". However, I do think they are *grabs dick*, overall.
Anonix will have none of the bloat of GNU/Linux. For example, its kernel will print no error messages. That's actually where most of the bloat in Linux comes from.
>>>453
5/10 you weren't close to getting me, but at least someone is trying
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Anonymous2008-05-23 8:38
>>453
6/10
As the other reviewer said that wasn't very close but I enjoyed the attempt.
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Anonymous2008-05-23 9:32
I should contribute some code to Anoncoreutils. Because according to Portuguese law, the concept of releasing material whose copyright I own to the public domain doesn't exist. We do have public domain, but I can't just say “LOL THIS IS NOW PUBLIC DOMAIN K.”
(Protip: It's because of these legal voids that we have ultra-permissive licenses like the MIT license or even the WTFPL, but no, you faggots had to push the “WE ARE ANONYMOUS; ANONYMOUS IS LEGION” shit to the realm of software)
No one who's serious enough will fucking use your code because no one knows what legal can of worms they're opening by doing it. Making it “completely permissive” with no license and anonymous contributors is the same as making it “completely restricted,” in the sense that doing anything with it leaves you open to lawsuits by anyone claiming to be "Anonymous."
Because according to Portuguese law, the concept of releasing material whose copyright I own to the public domain doesn't exist.
Oh, I forgot the same this also holds true for several other countries.
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FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE WORK OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN
THE WORK.
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Anonymous2008-05-23 21:56
>>469
Good luck getting that to stick when all of your contributors are "Anonymous."
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Anonymous2008-05-23 22:02
>>469
Why don't you just call it ``MIT-licensed unix variant'' and stop with that legion faggotry?
Making it “completely permissive” with no license and anonymous contributors is the same as making it “completely restricted,”
This. The definitive flamewar breaker in BSD/GPL discussions.
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Anonymous2008-05-23 22:36
>>473
Is that even relevant to the discussion, or is it just your way of saying “I'm a GNUfag”?
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Anonymous2008-05-23 23:20
>>474
It is very relevant to the current discussion. By the way, I am extremely saddened at the fact that you had the nerve to try make me look foolish on the /prog/ discussion forums. Please try to practice proper netiquette, thank you :-).
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Anonymous2008-05-23 23:32
>>475
I am the real >>473 and I feel like you are making me look like a faggot.
By the way, I am extremely saddened at the fact that you had the nerve to try make me look foolish on the /prog/ discussion forums.
I am laughing by you.
>>485
Well, noone wanted to use /gorp/. Wait until next week if you want more news.
486GET (This is coincidentally what w4lolitaKs' server, which we're using as the local repo, is running on.)
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Anonymous2008-05-25 23:12
>>486
Coprocessor GET. What distro is it running? I have lots of computers like that, and, well, i love arch linux but it's for i686. I should try slackware, but it looks kinda old and unmantained.
Also that explains why are you always trying to use as little resources as possible. Wait, local repo != websight.
>>487
I'm not using a distro, but nothing more than a kernel, some required libs and utilities, and the ftpd. It only serves as an FTP server, that's all it needs.
>>492
bug in cat.c:
line 18 [/code]if(argc>1 && !strcmp(*argv,"-u")) {[/code]
What you want is strcmp(argv[1], "-u"), not argv[0] (or *argv, same thing)
FAIL I ONLY READ 18 LINES FROM ONE GOD DAMN FILE OF YOUR PROJECT.
YOU FAIL AGAIN, GO BACK TO CODING. WHEN'S THE NEXT GOD DAMN UPDATE, FAGGOTS? GOD DAMN
The following environment variables shall affect the execution of echo:
LANG
Provide a default value for the internationalization variables that are unset or null. (See the Base Definitions volume of IEEE Std 1003.1-2001, Section 8.2, Internationalization Variables for the precedence of internationalization variables used to determine the values of locale categories.)
LC_ALL
If set to a non-empty string value, override the values of all the other internationalization variables.
LC_CTYPE
[XSI] [Option Start] Determine the locale for the interpretation of sequences of bytes of text data as characters (for example, single-byte as opposed to multi-byte characters in arguments). [Option End]
LC_MESSAGES
Determine the locale that should be used to affect the format and contents of diagnostic messages written to standard error.
NLSPATH
[XSI] [Option Start] Determine the location of message catalogs for the processing of LC_MESSAGES . [Option End]
YOU DONT USE stderr FOR DIAGNOSTIC MESSAGES
I FUCKNG HATE YOU FAGGOTS
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Anonymous2008-06-01 1:09
comm.c DOESNT WORK FOR BINARY FILES YOU FUCKING IMBECILES
Name:
Anonymous2008-06-01 1:10
ln.c IS NOT POSIX
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Anonymous2008-06-01 1:15
head.c DOESN'T WORK IF STDIN HAS MORE THAN BUF_SIZE BYTES WITH LESS THAN n NEWLINES PROVIDED. YOU FUCKING FAIL
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Anonymous2008-06-01 1:16
md5sum.c IS INCLEDIBLY INEFFICIENT.
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Anonymous2008-06-01 1:17
pwd.c INVOKES UNDEFINED BEHAVIOR. LEARN TO READ THE MANUAL OF THE FUNCTIONS YOU USE.
>>499
md5sum was the one thing of theirs i tested and it was faster then my debian supplied GNU version. however, i tested the "old" version and dont know if they changed shit up.
of course that still doesn't mean anything about inefficiency.
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Anonymous2008-06-01 1:22
unlink.c INVOKES UNDEFINED BEHAVIOR IN LINE 8. argc MAY BE 0 FOOLS.
>>495 Cudder is known to ❝FUCKING HATE THIS ENCODING SHIT!!!❞, and has explicitly decided to ignore POSIX internationalization requirements.
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Anonymous2008-06-01 2:39
>>493
fixed >>495
read the anoncoreutils spec, we're excluding anything related to i8n
and The standard error shall be used only for diagnostic messages.
>>500
fixed, i hate dynamic allocation ;_;
L and P options still need to be done though >>501
C'd and POSIX'd. >>502
if by inefficiency he means the unrolled loop, still: 5820 2008-05-31 23:39 md5sum <-- a/c
30316 2008-04-29 03:16 /usr/bin/md5sum <-- GNU >>503
and were you the one that tried to file this stupid bug report? http://osdir.com/ml/gnu.core-utils.bugs/2003-05/msg00023.html
I've been ignoring this whole `anoncoreutils' thing until now.
read the anoncoreutils spec, we're excluding anything related to i8n
So, does this mean that it's just a bunch angry kids bitching about `code bloat' and implementing selected portions of POSIX badly?
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Anonymous2008-06-01 11:43
penis
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Anonymous2008-06-01 12:09
>>514 So, does this mean that it's just a bunch angry kids bitching about `code bloat' and implementing selected portions of POSIX badly? Exactly!
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Anonymous2008-06-01 13:59
I tried your new OS and I must say it works very well. I installed Shiichan on it and it haxed most of my anus just as usual.
I look forward to your next update,
An Anonix user.
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anonymous a/x contributor2008-06-01 15:44
>>514
We are only selecting the parts that relate to basic functionality and are of most importance.
"Implementation of i18n support in Anonix is deemed unnecessary because of several reasons. One of the biggest reasons is that English has become the dominant language of computers and the Internet, and shows no signs of stopping its increase in popularity. Secondly, Anonix's goals of being The One OS conflicts with the diversity that i18n implies; there is also the fact that most if not all users will not need his/her OS to switch between several dozen languages -- English (or another language) is chosen during installation, and likely remains that language. Thus, there is no need to implement language switching at runtime and those who want Anonix in anything besides English can translate and compile for that language. Finally, eliminating this little-used functionality agrees with the efficiency and simplicity goals of the Anonix project."
- Anonix Core Planning Group from Conference 1b (2008-05-10)
One of the biggest reasons is that English has become the dominant language of computers and the Internet Anonix's goals of being The One OS conflicts with the diversity that i18n implies;
And you expect help from the population of /prog/, which is composed of many eurofags whom use crazy moonspeak runes on a daily basis ?
Either you are fucking stupid or your trolling skills lie beyond imagination.
eurofags whom use crazy moonspeak runes on a daily basis ?
on a daily basis ?
basis ? basis ?
basis? basis? s?
French detected. Stop calling yourself eurofag.
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Anonymous2008-06-01 19:28
- Anonix Core Planning Group from Conference 1b (2008-05-10)
You really need a Core Group to hold Conferences and Plan how to not implement functionality?
>>521
French doesn't have spaces before question marks either. More likely he's just suffering from brain damage.
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Anonymous2008-06-01 20:10
I'm a french canadian, meaning I have both the advantages of France (good taste) and the advantages of America (not gay). I would like to mention that >>524 is right, and >>521 appears to be, indeed, a retard.
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Anonymous2008-06-01 20:11
I tried your new OS and I must say it works very well. I installed my japanese fappan gaems on it and it displayed non-localized garbage just as usual.
I look forward to your next update,
An Anonix user.
>>525
He's right in the sense that you are suffering from brain damage?
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Anonymous2008-06-01 21:41
So they're removing the ``bloat'' of i18n and placing the translation load on the user? What exactly are computers for, again?
And even if you make localised versions, I guess running a server to which users from multiple countries connect and each get text in their own language is right out of the window?
It seems someone also underestimates the usefulness of seeing things collated according to one's own locale, properly.
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Anonymous2008-06-01 22:11
the advantages of France (good taste)
wrong. the only advantage france ever had was sucking rome's cock. and britain's cock. and america's cock. and now all of europe's cocks.
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Anonymous2008-06-01 22:27
>>520 And you expect help from the population of /prog/, which is composed of many eurofags whom use crazy moonspeak runes on a daily basis
Sir, please take note: whom is the objective pronoun and who the subjective. In the sentence above, you have used whom as the subject of a subordinate clause, which is incorrect. The clause in question should read:
eurofags who use crazy moonspeak runes on a daily basis
Thank you for your understanding.
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Anonymous2008-06-01 22:50
Not an eurofag, but as all good /jp/sies I do use runes on a daily basis. Seconded.
>>537
Annoyingly, installing a font containing these glyphs caused that font to take precedence for runic too, and its Runic glyphs are ugly. I feel kind of bad about it :(
>>538
Code2000, Everson Mono Uniced, Fixedsys Excelsior, and TITUS Cyberbit Basic all contain those gyphs. Which font are you using that has ugly Runic glyphs?
>>539
TITUS Cyberbit Basic. Its runic glyphs are much thicker than those of Junicode.
I hadn't heard of Everson Mono Unicode, hopefully that will be a good font. Strange though -- I have Code2001, shouldn't that support all that Code2000 supports (and more)?
Readers! Repugnant to achieve a realistic rendering of reckless relentless repression by the regime. Run counter to the society, people should be blamed for delays and revolting reluctant. Is it true? To review and reconsider. Recall review the results of today and yesterday's piece. Stand up and rebel, and regression revenge! The reverse, to refresh the atonement. No reason to refuse to respond. Rather, the heart and rehabilitation to restore knowledge and information. Progress and revive never regret. To the revival of composure to take root. reinitiate the revolution.
>>571
That actually isn't too far from the original meaning.
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Anonymous2008-06-12 5:21
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Anonymous2008-06-12 7:58
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Anonymous2008-06-12 8:38
Speaking as an ENTERPRISE EXPERT i like to fellate goats
>>586
.e'u ko gletu ko .i ji'a mi lo do mamta cu go'i .ui.o'a
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Anonymous2008-06-14 17:12
This reminds me of my father telling me about the states of matter when I was seven or eight. I would go to my cousin's place and be oh-so-smart and all:
-HURRRR THAT'S A SOLID AND THAT'S A LIQUID SEE I KNOW STUFF
-But that's just a bed and a glass of water! What are you talking about?
-DURRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Anonymous2008-06-14 17:23
This reminds me of my father telling me about the states of matter when I was seven or eight. I would go to my cousin's place and be oh-so-smart and all:
-HURRRR THAT'S A CAR AND THAT'S A CUDDER SEE I KNOW STUFF
-But that's just the contents of the address and decrement registers! What are you talking about?
-DURRRRRRRRRRRRR YOUVE READ URE SICP TODAY FAGORT
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Anonymous2008-06-14 17:46
>>588
ja, I replied in Lojban because some asshole decided to write some Japanese or whatever cryptic crap that no one can understand. and I agree. YES U CLEVAR BCOZ U SAY STUFF IN NUVER LANGWIDGE
Hypothetical situation:
An anonymous coder videotapes himself coding a part of Anonix, submitting it, and it being accepted for use in the project. Long after the release of Anonix the coder proceeds to publish the videos and his name publicly. His part in Anonix must then be removed as he is no longer anonymous, thus destroying a possibly vital part of the code and all other parts of the code that reference it.
>>592
We don't really care. We just remove any names in submitted code; whatever else you do, we couldn't care less about.
>>597
Neither, as the video does not fall under the Anonix license; even though it is nonymous, the code being submitted has been stripped of any names.
p.s. Next release coming up real soon. Fixed more bugs and finished another utility or two. Not really concerned about any deadline or anything, we're just working on it if we have time/sudden ideas.
>>619
This is pretty cool, I'll tell you when anyone gives a flying Philadelphia fuck.
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Anonymous2008-06-17 8:56
Anonix: where the trolls write code and detailed replies, and the trolled just write insulting one-liners.
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Anonymous2008-06-17 11:00
But who's really being trolled?
Everyone, that's who. We're all trolling ourselves.
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Anonymous2008-06-17 11:04
>>622
No, the Anonix morons are trolling everyone, including themselves.
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Anonymous2008-06-17 11:09
Trolls trolling trolls in the trollsville.
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Anonymous2008-06-17 11:10
Did you lose your reason, Cudder?
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Anonymous2008-06-17 12:25
>>625 ┌─────────────────────────────────────────────────┒
│ ◕ ◕ ┃
│ REASON ┃
│ Version 1.0B7 ┃
│ Gatling type 3 mm hypervelocity railgun system ┃
│ Ng Security Industries, Inc. ┃
│ PRERELEASE VERSION-NOT FOR FIELD USE ┃
│ DO NOT TEST IN A POPULATED AREA ┃
│ -ULTIMA RATIO REGUM- ┃
│ ◕ ◕ ┃
┕━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┛
(ps. someone push the contents of the tar in >>619 to the prog.git, it's not working for me.)
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Anonymous2008-06-19 8:03
My WC is also shitty.
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Anonymous2008-06-19 9:23
PIG DISGUSTINGIOC
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Anonymous2008-06-29 21:32
Hello and welcome back to the thread that trolls us all at exponential rates. I just stumbled with this announcement in a web sight called "REchan", which hosts a few textboards without any posts at all. Some of you may be aware of this web sight already, so without further introduction, let me quote:
2008-06-27 IMPORTANT UPDATE by HAHAHaruhi
Some of you may be wondering what's been happening with Cudder, the rest of the REchan team, and of course the Anonix project. I have both good and bad news.
First, the bad news. As you might've heard, me and Cudder were on vacation the last weekend. On the way back from Osaka, we were involved in an accident -- I survived with only a few bruises and a sore arm, while Cudder had to be hospitalized with a fractured humerus among other minor injuries. She'll probably be back by the start of July.
Now, the good news. Aside from the obvious, the Anonix project still continues and Anoncoreutils is making slow but steady progress. As usual, continue posting public submissions and bug reports/fixes to /ac/. Planning post-Anoncoreutils projects and the design of the Anonix kernel can be done in /ax/.
I, myself, feel kind of bad about Cudder, just because it is rumored that she's a woman. However, the pictures requirement hasn't been fulfilled, and so the claim is naturally invalidated.
In other news, they think that someone noticed they were missing. I have both good and bad news. The good news is that we weren't worried, and the bad news is that nobody gives a fuck.
I DONT GIVE A FUCKING SIHT GET THE FUCK OUT YOU FUKCING INCOMPETENT C PROGRAMMERS MY ASS GOD DAMMIT ALL YOUR SRC/ IS A STINKING PILE OF SHIT.
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Anonymous2008-06-30 17:31
back from Osaka
I have never been trolled with such great efficiency. Too bad anonix will still be slow as fuck
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Anonymous2008-07-08 14:22
pantsu~
How's the development going?
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Anonymous2008-07-08 15:08
>>646
yes(1) has been successfully reimplemented and is now considered 100% done. Only 70 freewares to reimplement!
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Anonymous2008-07-08 15:13
Are they going to implement the standard library next? They are currently completely dependent on the underlying bloated library implementations. How can they get sleep at night?
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HAHAHaruhi!6mHaRuhies2008-07-08 16:11
>>647 Status of Anoncoreutils
last updated 2008-07-08 04:00
40/81 49% complete
>>654
protip: learn to read
check the posts in the 4-ch thread
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HAHAHaruhi!6mHaRuhies2008-07-10 4:02
konata@kagami:~/test$ time split -b 10m linux-2.6.16.27.tar.bz2
real 0m2.429s
user 0m0.204s
sys 0m2.068s
konata@kagami:~/test$ time ~/anoncore/split -b 10m linux-2.6.16.27.tar.bz2
real 0m1.428s
user 0m0.036s
sys 0m1.228s
konata@kagami:~/test$ time split -b 10m linux-2.6.16.27.tar.bz2
real 0m2.289s
user 0m0.156s
sys 0m2.016s
konata@kagami:~/test$ time ~/anoncore/split -b 10m linux-2.6.16.27.tar.bz2
real 0m1.430s
user 0m0.028s
sys 0m1.256s
konata@kagami:~/test$ ls ~/anoncore/split /usr/bin/split
-rwxr-xr-x 1 konata root 5788 2008-07-10 00:50 /home/konata/anoncore/split
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 22856 2008-04-29 03:16 /usr/bin/split
konata@kagami:~/test$
I'm quite pleased with these results. Anon's version is almost 1/4 the size of the GNU version, and yet 50-70% faster; the thing is, anon-split only uses a 64K read buffer.
Expect this utility and more in an update coming soon -- Anoncoreutils is now more than 50% complete!
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Anonymous2008-07-10 4:58
>>658
when are you idiots going to write ex/vi? or even ed?
what about sh?
at this rate it'll take you over 9000 years to have a posix-compliant system.
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Anonymous2008-07-10 5:07
>>659
I don't believe you have enough data to extrapolate yet.
Words can't convey how I detest your babbling about Cudder's situation. Every time I see such post, it reminds me of my dog's death. And I cry, because Cudder's gonna get better, and Haskell's dead and is never coming back.
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Anonymous2008-07-12 8:20
The great thing about dogs is that there is the ever constant supply at the pound. You can get one from your local dog pound and call it Haskell.
Their ideas of optimization make me kind of lol.
“hey i know lets use a cache”
“include anonix's md5sum for great speed”
“ooh, we could cache the data. in a cache.”
“wait no let's use a non-indexed database and rewrite the entire thing whenever a single property changes. also how about a cache.”
>>677
Wow, that is Anonix in a nutshell isn't it?
"Uncomprehendingly optamising where no man has ever bothered optamising before ... at least since the Pentium with it's sweet 66 MHz goodness."
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Anonymous2008-08-06 11:29
One post closer to closing.
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Anonymous2008-08-06 11:46
First, the bad news. As you might've heard, me and Cudder were on vacation the last weekend. On the way back from Osaka, we were involved in an accident -- I survived with only a few bruises and a sore arm, while Cudder had to be hospitalized with a fractured humerus among other minor injuries. She'll probably be back by the start of July.
>>667 Most of these are turning out to be 1/2 to 1/4 the size of the GNU equivalents, while still being POSIX compliant.
I take it your find and xargs will also be strictly POSIX, meaning no xargs -0 and find -print0?
Enjoy your useless utilities that break on filenames with spaces.
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Anonymous2008-08-07 10:47
>>699
I don't get POSIX on this. Isn't it trivial to shell escape the characters?
>>699,700
No problem there. Filenames containing spaces would be escaped while being fed into xargs.
Even the POSIX spec gives a solution: If xargs is used to bundle output of commands like find dir -print or ls into commands to be executed, unexpected results are likely if any filenames contain any blank characters or newline characters. This can be fixed by using find to call a script that converts each file found into a quoted string that is then piped to xargs. Note that the quoting rules used by xargs are not the same as in the shell. They were not made consistent here because existing applications depend on the current rules and the shell syntax is not fully compatible with it. An easy rule that can be used to transform any string into a quoted form that xargs will interpret correctly is to precede each character in the string with a backslash.
But of course, all this is moot since the Anonix kernel will dynamically allocate as much RAM as required to hold the arguments (theoretically you could have up to 4GB of arguments on a 32-bit machine, but that would leave nothing free in the VAS for anything else; still, several hundred MB of arguments should be no problem), and from http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/coreutils-faq.html#Argument-list-too-long it looks like recent Linux kernels are doing it as well.
Another thing, stuff like char linebuf[LINE_MAX] won't work as for A/x LINE_MAX==UINT_MAX (limited by available memory, of course.)
We're considering doing another release sometime this month.
In this installment, our heroine Cudder makes the startling discovery1 that being a smug little faggot about your 2000 lines of syscall wrappers doesn't really get any code written in the long run.
How will Anonix4 survive?2 Will there ever be another public update? Find out next year on oh god kill me!
>>743
The reason I'm "using that shitty php script" is because of the hosting. You think I like writing PHP? Our original host ToS'd us and I couldn't quickly find another free one that could run Kareha, nor were any existing PHP scripts deemed portable and lightweight enough. Thus I hacked up a board script to at least keep some sense of functionality, though I do admit it's grown on me a bit. Desperate times, desperate measures. I'd rather use Kareha, and if you allow it (Kareha/Perl CGI) I'll take the offer.
>>745
Why the fuck would I pay to host a free project?
[u][o]2008-08-31 What now? by [i]Cudder[i][/o][/u]
The Anonix project is starting to stagnate, and I've taken a bit of time to ponder over the cause and possible solutions. Anoncoreutils has not received an update in weeks. The boards have become, for lack of a better term, dormant.
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Anonymous2008-09-17 6:19
Fix'd - and oh, only 250 to go 2008-08-31 What now? by Cudder
The Anonix project is starting to stagnate, and I've taken a bit of time to ponder over the cause and possible solutions. Anoncoreutils has not received an update in weeks. The boards have become, for lack of a better term, dormant.
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Anonymous2008-09-17 9:29
>>746
Without tits or at least face I won't help you.
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Anonymous2008-09-17 9:31
tits or face
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Anonymous2008-09-17 9:31
tits
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Anonymous2008-09-17 9:49
Tits, ass, vagina, and face on my dick.
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Anonymous2008-09-17 9:52
>>746 nor were any existing PHP scripts deemed portable and lightweight enough.
stupid fucking reason not to just use something that already exists. Thus I hacked up a board script to at least keep some sense of functionality
even stupider fucking response.
...which of course is exactly like the whole thought process behind shitting about with Fagnonix. Deep shitting fuckbuckets, you are one broken, desperate, mindless, idiotic piece of useless horse shit.
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Anonymous2008-09-17 10:50
>>755
Sir, you broke the spirit of this thread. This thread is about OP and her tits, ass, vagina and face.
>>746 Why the fuck would I pay to host a free project?
Yeah, I wonder, why is that every single site hosted by people older than 16 years old is on paid hosting, even if they make no money out of it?
Maybe it's because you can't get anything semi-serious done on free hosting?
Your project is such a joke that you can't even be bothered to pay an infinitesimal sum of money in order to make sure your site doesn't stay down 70% of the time. And you expect people to take you seriously?
>>777
Perhaps he did get the reference, but didn't want >>771 to go back to XXCD, please because if that happened the XKCD people would carry on breeding.
On the old rechan, I asked Cudder why (s)he wanted to mirror Fravia's old site, because it's already on http://woodmann.com/fravia/ . Her response was something like "Woodmann is a piece of shit"; (s)he was banned by Woodmann on his forum, which went with a lot of name calling. ((S)He also claimed to be female there, with a signature saying ~~ Lithuana LX Xianghua ~~ or something)
There he says he's David E. Thiel, a bald wapanese ``security expert'' who likes FreeBSD and hates Linux. You might be interested in http://redundancy.redundancy.org/photos.html
But have you ever considered that everything you've read so far has been a lie? Yes, even the cake. Maybe there's some truth among all those bits, but I'll let you figure out which, if any.