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How does a ``cudder" look ?

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-20 21:14 ID:Rn5hE6lF

HOW DOES IT LOOK ?

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-20 21:31 ID:s05sNnlo

like shit, as that is what lisp is

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-20 21:33 ID:WEqrXNj4

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-20 22:13 ID:aesqe8iC

>>2
Aww, has too much sepples filled your tiny heart with rage?

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-20 22:22 ID:Heaven

>>4

(HI (IM(
   A( (LISP( (PROGRAM))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-21 0:49 ID:VzxVMiXo

>>4
butthurt lispfag?

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-21 0:53 ID:WY7WpUIF

>>6
Butthurt Ctard ;_;.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-21 1:00 ID:VzxVMiXo

>>7
nice try, but c is shit too
not nearly as much as lisp though
the main difference is that people actually use c to program, whereas lisp is to programming as liberal arts is to degrees

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-21 1:18 ID:fuZ7PRBJ

>>8
Hackers and painters!

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-21 1:44 ID:WY7WpUIF

>>9
OMG it maeks sense now!

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 12:16

testing

testing
testing
testing

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 12:24

Banana-shaped.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 12:38

>>8
C and lisp are just about the only decent languages in existence; therefore, ihbt.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 12:43

>>13
I feel sorry for you. :(

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 12:59

A cudder looks like a string of cars.
      ---------------       ----------------       -------------------
     | car   | cdr   |     | car    | cdr   |     | car       | cdr   |
     |       |   o-------->|        |   o-------->|           |  nil  |
     |       |       |     |        |       |     |           |       |
      ---------------       ----------------       -------------------

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 13:18

┌─────┬──────┐    ┌─────┬──────┐    ┌─────┬──────┐    ┌─────┬──────┐
│ car │ cdr ─┼───►│ car │ cdr ─┼───►│ car │ cdr ─┼───►│ car │ cdr ─┼───┐
└─────┴──────┘    └─────┴──────┘    └─────┴──────┘    └─────┴──────┘   │
                                                                       │
                                                                     ──┴─
                                                                      nil

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 13:20

>>15
A lisp list is indeed simple, but it may be simple to illustrate it like this:

A cons is a pair of any two items, the first being the car, and the second being the cdr.

A list is a chain of conses:
- the car of the cons is an item
- the cdr of the cons is a list, just like this one, or a NIL which represents the end of the list.

In a more MLish syntax:
List = Cons of Anything * List | Nil

In Common Lisp, NIL also represents the generalized boolean false (a commonly agreed value between functions, which represents boolean false). At the same time, the internal representation of NIL is just normal symbol interned in the COMMON-LISP package, and at the same time, it's agreed for it to represent an empty list.

;(car . cdr) is the dotted representation of a CONS pair = (cons car cdr)
;(a ... b) is a proper list

'() ;=> NIL
'(1) ;=> (1 . NIL)
'(1 2) ;=> (1 . (2)) => (1 . (2 . ())) or (1 . (2 . NIL))
'(A B C); => (A . (B . (C . NIL)))

#'first == #'car
#'rest == #'cdr
#'second == #'cadr == #'(lambda (x) (car (cdr x)))
; and so on...

Lisp lists are very simple as you can see, but it seems they cause trouble for some newbies.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 13:21

>>16
wow that's cool

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 13:42

┌─────┬──────┐    ┌─────┬──────┐    ┌─────┬──────┐    ┌─────┬──────┐
│ car │ cdr ─┼───►│ car │ cdr ─┼───►│ car │ cdr ─┼───►│ car │ cdr ─┼───┐
└─────┴──────┘    └─────┴──────┘    └─────┴──────┘    └─────┴──────┘   │
                                                                       │
                                                                     ──┴──
                                                                   "GRUNNUR"

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 14:17

>>16
... master...

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 16:23

>>16
Looks like shit in Firefox.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 16:32

>>21
WORKS IN OPERA

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 16:56

>>22
No it doesn't?

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 17:19

>>23
Another Opera user here, confirmed working.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 17:21

>>21
Looks fine in Firefox here.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 17:23

>>25
same here .

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 18:39

>>21
Did you mean looks like shit with my eyesore font because I'm cool and alternative?

I tested it in 3 browsers. Looks perfect, lines up exactly. Top-tier, masterful character work.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 18:47

By the way, fellow Opera users, use this:

<a title="zap colors" href="opera:/button/Go%20to%20page,%22javascript:(function()%257Bvar%2520newSS%252C%2520styles%253D'*%2520%257B%2520background%253A%2520white%2520!%2520important%253B%2520color%253A%2520black%2520!important%2520%257D%2520%253Alink%252C%2520%253Alink%2520*%2520%257B%2520color%253A%2520%25230000EE%2520!important%2520%257D%2520%253Avisited%252C%2520%253Avisited%2520*%2520%257B%2520color%253A%2520%2523551A8B%2520!important%2520%257D'%253B%2520if(document.createStyleSheet)%2520%257B%2520document.createStyleSheet(%2522javascript%253A'%2522%252Bstyles%252B%2522'%2522)%253B%2520%257D%2520else%2520%257B%2520newSS%253Ddocument.createElement('link')%253B%2520newSS.rel%253D'stylesheet'%253B%2520newSS.href%253D'data%253Atext%252Fcss%252C'%252Bescape(styles)%253B%2520document.getElementsByTagName(%2522head%2522)%255B0%255D.appendChild(newSS)%253B%2520%257D%2520%257D)()%253B%22,,%22Zap%20Colors%22,View">Zap colors</a>

Copy that into an empty html, click on it, click on the link on the page and drag the new button you now have to whatever... just whatever, I don't care. Drag it somewhere. It makes h4x0r pages readable and doesn't have the Readability's quirks.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 18:49

>>28
This is what Opera users actually believe.

Name: 28 2009-11-04 18:49

Here is the readable source, for the rightfully paranoid:
javascript:(function(){var newSS, styles='* { background: white ! important; color: black !important } :link, :link * { color: #0000EE !important } :visited, :visited * { color: #551A8B !important }'; if(document.createStyleSheet) { document.createStyleSheet("javascript:'"+styles+"'"); } else { newSS=document.createElement('link'); newSS.rel='stylesheet'; newSS.href='data:text/css,'+escape(styles); document.getElementsByTagName("head")[0].appendChild(newSS); } })();

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 18:54

>>29
Me, I put that shit right next to the "fit to width" button. But you, as a Foxfire user, don't even understand how cool it is.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 19:07

>>31
Actually I have Opera installed, but I'm scared to attempt to use it lest I throw up into my mouth.

Opera Mini is cool though. Also their embedded / custom stuff (browsers for consoles and the such).

However, for desktop use I just don't see the appeal. I hear it gets used a lot in Россия and its surroundings, not sure what to make out of that.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 19:21

I need to write my own web browser someday, Firefox is annoying and Opera fucks up quite often recently :S

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 19:23

>>21
Fine here in Firefox in GNU/Linux.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 19:44

>>33 Have you considered w3m? It works pretty good for me. You could also try uzbl

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-04 23:44

>>27
Yep, my cool and alternative Courier 13 pt.

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI!vzR1SbE7g/KHqrb 2009-11-05 3:04

With its eyes.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-05 6:18

>>37
Terrible!

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-05 7:29

>>37
Hello Cudder how is the Anonix project coming along?

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-05 9:21

>>39
s'cool, we just finished transcripting 7th ed from the lion's commentary.

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI!vzR1SbE7g/KHqrb 2009-11-05 10:29

>>39
busy IRL, no time to do anything until december; however, w4lolitaKs has started a project in /jp/

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-05 10:48

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-05 12:54

>>41
Yes, I'd noticed, but I presumed it was a very well developed metatroll and ignored it.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-05 13:07

>>41
>busy IRL

stop having a life and join us.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-05 13:12

>>44
busy IRL
forgot my space fuck.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-05 13:42

>>45
I never had a space fuck :(

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-05 14:36

One time a girl showed me her "CUDDER".  I put my "GRUNNER" all the way in it.  That was the best night Leah ever had.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-05 14:47

[b][i]cudder[/b][/i]

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-05 15:05

*grabs seven dicks*

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-05 16:12

>>49
That's rather selfish of you. Didn't they teach you to share in school? Let me guess you went to public school... that explains a lot.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-05 16:53

curious?

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-05 17:03

>>42
Win32
not open source
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-05 23:46

>>52

I know, right?

SOFTWARE OF THE CENTURY

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-05 23:48

Name: anon is legion 2009-11-06 0:29

>>54
It's funny, because it says 'newfag'. Actually, it's EPIC LEGENDARY WIN amirite

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-06 1:33

>>55

No, it's funny because ANONIX flowered into disgusting and useless dross twice. Two completely unrelated and awful projects.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-06 4:21

>>16

Nice Unicode. Epic win.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-06 4:34

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-06 6:22

>>57
If you like that, you should see the SICP info pages[1]


--
1. http://www.neilvandyke.org/sicp-texi/

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-06 7:38


                                        (3 4)
                                          │
                                          │
                                          ▼
((1 2) 3 4)┏━━━┳━━━┓                  ┏━━━┳━━━┓    ┏━━━┳━━━┓
      ────►┃ ● ┃ ●─╂─────────────────►┃ ● ┃ ●─╂───►┃ ● ┃ ╱ ┃
           ┗━┿━┻━━━┛                  ┗━┿━┻━━━┛    ┗━┿━┻━━━┛
             │                          │            │
             ▼                          ▼            ▼
   (1 2)   ┏━━━┳━━━┓    ┏━━━┳━━━┓     ┏━━━┓        ┏━━━┓
      ────►┃ ● ┃ ●─╂───►┃ ● ┃ ╱ ┃     ┃ 3 ┃        ┃ 4 ┃
           ┗━┿━┻━━━┛    ┗━┿━┻━━━┛     ┗━━━┛        ┗━━━┛
             │            │
             ▼            ▼
           ┏━━━┓        ┏━━━┓ 
           ┃ 1 ┃        ┃ 2 ┃
           ┗━━━┛        ┗━━━┛


     Figure 2.5:  Structure formed by (cons (list 1 2) (list 3 4)).

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-06 7:40

AMAZING ASCII SKILLZ

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-06 7:49


     *Figure 3.4:* Procedure objects in the global frame.

                    +--------------------------------------------+
                    | sum-of-squares:                            |
          global -->| square:                                    |
          env       | f: --+                                     |
                    +------|--------------+--------------+-------+
                           |     ^        |     ^        |     ^
                           |     |        |     |        |     |
                           V     |        V     |        V     |
                       .---.---. |    .---.---. |    .---.---. |
                       | O | O-+-+    | O | O-+-+    | O | O-+-+
                       `-|-^---'      `-|-^---'      `-|-^---'
                         |              |              |
                         V              V              V
             parameters: a          parameters: x  parameters: x, y
             body: (sum-of-squares  body: (* x x)  body: (+ (square x)
                     (+ a 1)                                (square y))
                     (* a 2))

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-06 9:09

I smell artist-mode.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-06 9:14

>>63
SMELL MY ANUS

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-06 12:11

>>60
There are gaps between the lines1. That's terrible!, but what one normally would except.

That makes >>16's achievement even more impressive.

1Although maybe WebKit will render it gapless, I'm not sure.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-06 12:26

>>65
I went for the SICP 1.0 look.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-06 12:39


            ( why am i so ugly ?)
           O
          o
 .---.---.
 | O | O |
 `---^---'

Name: 16 2009-11-06 15:05

Courier has no box drawing characters at all, which explains >>36.

>>60 Looks correct using a good font, however Windows lacks a good font. None of the monospace fonts I tried had the BOX DRAWINGS HEAVY characters (usually just the light versions), nor did they have U+2571 BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT DIAGONAL UPPER RIGHT TO LOWER LEFT, and thus they were linked in from elsewhere, which breaks the alignment (in my tests, the font-linked BOX DRAWINGS HEAVY characters were 20% wider than the width of Consolas characters).

Out of curiosity and perversion, I decided to see what would be necessary to draw it in Consolas. Here is a version which works with only light box drawing characters and ╱ for /. It's not as cool as >>65[rem]-san's because it doesn't mix heavy and light box drawing characters.

[m]                                        (3 4)
                                          │
                                          │
                                          ▼
((1 2) 3 4)┌───┬───┐                  ┌───┬───┐    ┌───┬───┐
      ────►│ ● │ ●─┼─────────────────►│ ● │ ●─┼───►│ ● │ / │
           └─┼─┴───┘                  └─┼─┴───┘    └─┼─┴───┘
             │                          │            │
             ▼                          ▼            ▼
   (1 2)   ┌───┬───┐    ┌───┬───┐     ┌───┐        ┌───┐
      ────►│ ● │ ●─┼───►│ ● │ / │     │ 3 │        │ 4 │
           └─┼─┴───┘    └─┼─┴───┘     └───┘        └───┘
             │            │
             ▼            ▼
           ┌───┐        ┌───┐
           │ 1 │        │ 2 │
           └───┘        └───┘[/m]

The circles don't touch the [m]──►[/m] arrows like they should, though.

>>65 There are small (subpixel) gaps in >>16 when I look at it in Ubanto with DejaVu Sans Mono (with font smoothing on, though Firefox seems to ignore my settings anyway). >>60's also has subpixel gaps for me, but they're small enough that they're almost unnoticable.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-06 15:06

Well, that's the last time I trust EXPERT BBCODE FRAMEWORK.

Courier has no box drawing characters at all, which explains >>36.

>>60 Looks correct using a good font, however Windows lacks a good font. None of the monospace fonts I tried had the BOX DRAWINGS HEAVY characters (usually just the light versions), nor did they have U+2571 BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT DIAGONAL UPPER RIGHT TO LOWER LEFT, and thus they were linked in from elsewhere, which breaks the alignment (in my tests, the font-linked BOX DRAWINGS HEAVY characters were 20% wider than the width of Consolas characters).

Out of curiosity and perversion, I decided to see what would be necessary to draw it in Consolas. Here is a version which works with only light box drawing characters and ╱ for /. It's not as cool as >>65-san's because it doesn't mix heavy and light box drawing characters.

                                        (3 4)
                                          │
                                          │
                                          ▼
((1 2) 3 4)┌───┬───┐                  ┌───┬───┐    ┌───┬───┐
      ────►│ ● │ ●─┼─────────────────►│ ● │ ●─┼───►│ ● │ / │
           └─┼─┴───┘                  └─┼─┴───┘    └─┼─┴───┘
             │                          │            │
             ▼                          ▼            ▼
   (1 2)   ┌───┬───┐    ┌───┬───┐     ┌───┐        ┌───┐
      ────►│ ● │ ●─┼───►│ ● │ / │     │ 3 │        │ 4 │
           └─┼─┴───┘    └─┼─┴───┘     └───┘        └───┘
             │            │
             ▼            ▼
           ┌───┐        ┌───┐
           │ 1 │        │ 2 │
           └───┘        └───┘


The circles don't touch the ──► arrows like they should, though.

>>65 There are small (subpixel) gaps in >>16 when I look at it in Ubanto with DejaVu Sans Mono (with font smoothing on, though Firefox seems to ignore my settings anyway). >>60's also has subpixel gaps for me, but they're small enough that they're almost unnoticable.

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