One word, the forced indentation of parnthesized code renders parenthesis superfluous and redundant, thread over.
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Anonymous2007-07-24 4:27 ID:WkyajARa
>>13
Oh god, eval-when. The AIDS of premature optimization. Goddammit.
People ought to learn to trust the compiler. And to give it gentle hints as to opportunities for optimization. Rather than syntax constructs that fucking embed your other declarations in an extra scope!
but seriously, my font is Consolas, comes with Vista. it's like a nicer version of Courier New. it kicks ass. by the looks of it, >>20, your font is Monaco? also a nice font.
Ignore the ugly code & language, I'm at work right now.
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Anonymous2007-07-24 6:05 ID:u4P5zDN9
>>27
No, on the contrary. We aren't 12 anymore, our eyesight isn't as good as it used to be and we look at that shit for more than 7h every day. Big fonts and bold colors make it easier, we couldn't care less whether it looks childish to you or not.
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Anonymous2007-07-24 6:50 ID:WkyajARa
>>29
Ah, that explains the "Teletubby 38" font and the attendant colour scheme.
>>39
Verbatim? Like that floppy disk manufacturer or what? I don't get it.
>>40
Yes, about that.. I'm just playing around, recently started to read "Teach Yourself Scheme in Fixnum Days", so that can't rally be counted as active use.
I think that an IDE (or lack thereof) can make a considerable impact on the day-to-day development. Consider writing C# code in Notepad versus Visual Studio. Yes, that might be an extreme example, but I've worked in environments where crappy editors become bumps in the road that slow down the daily work and increase the number of "stupid" error that are otherwise caught by the smart IDE editor. Colour syntax highlighting, auto-formatting, things like refactoring method names, etc. Those things might be blips on the radar to some but having good tools makes the real "work" more efficient and less error-prone. I used vi, vim, gvim, nedit and SlickEdit when I did development for Unix and hands down SlickEdit won simply because I was able to let the smart editor clue me in on the stupid typos and such that I made. With Visual Studio, I save TONS of time being able to find references quickly, do some refactoring with a couple of clicks, build and see build errors within the editor, etc. Certainly having a great IDE isn't going to save a project that lacks one or more of the other items mentioned, but having one certainly can save a company money, particularly if the programmers are making use of the features it offers.
>background colours are best kept for very important things
please elaborate. i call bullshit. or opinions.
also perl>python
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Anonymous2007-07-24 14:29 ID:US+38A1s
My code window: (((((((((((((((lambda x (lambda x x ) y (lamdba x) ((((((((((((()))))))))))))()())))))))))))))))))))))(((((((((((((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>>67
Pretty much.
Plus some autocmd magic to resume editing on the same line as when I last quit vim. And binding double-tap ii to esc, which is kind of nice.
Obsficating javascript for bookmarklets whilst using an ancient python library to make a silly graph where much more modern alternatives exist. I'm not quite sure if I get this whole anti vim thing. Is it cause vi originated in the 80s? Cause really, that's just jealousy of having a history.
I don't see the appeal in Emacs. It seems to me like a standard text editor, with fancy colouring. May as well just use notepad.exe, since their basically the same.
I don't see the appeal in text editors. It seems to me like a standard application with fancy colouring. May as well just write on paper since they're* essentially the same.
>>128
You don't belong here. I've declined more girls in favour of code than you've ever spoken to (but seriously, I have done that a few times and it is LOL).
>>136
That's failtialiased text with that ugly RGB hack. It doesn't need to be like that. By using the usual antialiasing in xft or the traditional renderer in Windows, you get beautiful, smooth, sharp enough letters. If you can't see this, you fail.
>>143
Hey cheers mate. I am now using that theme, very nice.
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Anonymous2007-07-31 6:01 ID:uhB8Kp9r
>>144
not as bad as >>37, but still looks blurry and makes my eyes hurt after looking at it for about 10 seconds.
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Anonymous2007-07-31 6:15 ID:p6QqbPmJ
I don't understand what the big deal is with anti-aliasing. Are your eyes really that fucked up? For me, it's a complete non-issue.
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Anonymous2007-07-31 6:33 ID:+BN9eaQa
>>147
I think it's supposed to make it more natural. I.e. to look like ink and pencil on paper. And I think shapes look more like they are supposed to with antialiasing. Without, it's like looking at some lettering in lego blogs. It's legible, but it takes that extra whatever so many milliseconds longer to process because (1) it's not really the precise shape, it just resembles it and (2) because it's just not what you are used to reading. You end up concentrating on the sharp edges as opposed to the shape as a whole. Plus with antialiasing the lines are just that bit thicker, but not bold.
>>150 I concur, bottom one is blurry...It may be smoother but it's harder to read.
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Anonymous2007-07-31 7:34 ID:yLKdbUHs
"There do exist people with no strong feelings on the matter, but for those who do feel strongly, there is no middle ground. The problem is that both camps are right. Anti-aliased text is fuzzy and blurry. But it’s also true that it is smoother. Anti-aliasing is an illusion – the illusion of higher resolution than is actually available. Unfortunately, the illusion doesn’t work well for everyone."
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Anonymous2007-07-31 7:37 ID:fDhtJTUw
It makes sense if you think about it: how could it ever be possible that a simulated edge appear sharper than a physical edge?
>>160
It doesn't look good because you unconsciously realise that although the antialiasing is quite nice with large fonts, it's totally shit with smaller fonts.
>>163
what's wrong with it?
also, the text in >>159 is about 10pt (about 3.5mm high) on my screen, which is about the smallest i can read comfortably.
>>160
maybe you just don't like monospaced and/or sans-serif fonts?
either that, or you just like looking at text that looks like it's made out of lego blocks.
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Anonymous2007-07-31 10:08 ID:Z7sk4JkH
It doesn't look good because you unconsciously realise that although the antialiasing is quite nice with large fonts, it's totally shit with smaller fonts.
i doubt you'd want to go much smaller than this, which is still pretty nice: http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/47/textzh3.png
>>171
1. UNIX-with-a-great-interface fag
2. €1800 please
3. €40 for TextMate (it's such a great editor I'd gladly pay triple the price for it)
4. Your eyesight is extremely poor, consult an optician
fixed
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Anonymous2007-07-31 20:09 ID:cvRrUpQd
>>166
Does your Dejavu Sans Mono look exactly like my Bitstream Vera Sans Mono (>>59). Anyway, good fonts, I like them too.
>>172
No, he's right, too much contrast, too small, too blurry. Though, yeah, depends on the monitor and resolution, I guess.
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Anonymous2007-07-31 20:25 ID:vsiFFFnJ
>>172
1. Digital lifestyle, slick design, trendy technologies, fashionable looks
2. Still a huge ripoff
3. Kate and PSPad have the same and more features, for free
4. I can read them, but it makes my eyes bleed from too much contrast and effort of reading such small letters, and it's much harder to spot typos when they're so small.
>>173
Protip: Bitstream made Vera free minus the name, and DejaVu is a community-extended version of it.
I've been waiting for this thread to come back so I could post:
Syntax highlighting is for fags. What? You can't read code on your own?
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Anonymous2008-01-15 20:10
>>182 has obviously never written anything other then a Mickey Mouse 20 line toy program.
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Anonymous2008-01-15 20:12
>>183
Like you, who can't even read a program without syntax highlighting, have? What, would you not recognize a function call if it weren't blue?
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Anonymous2008-01-15 20:16
Syntax highlighting helps reduce mental burden.
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Anonymous2008-01-15 20:22
black background. white text. because i'm not a faggot.
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Anonymous2008-01-15 20:23
>>185
Only to a certain point. I used to use very heavy highlighting for many years and thought that it makes reading code easier. Then I realized that the blinkenlights are not really doing any good. Now I use only three types of highlighting: normal code, comments and string literals.
>>183
Add a typeface for spelling errors to your syntax highlighter.
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Anonymous2008-01-15 23:35
Just turn on all the default syntax highlighting available. It's not something worth wasting time over customizing, especially if you're going to be working at different workstations or reinstalling OSes.
Now I finally understand. I just compared the "blurry" style font on an LCD TFT monitor with the same style on a CRT. The blurry style looks alright on the LCD but is noticeably blurry on the CRT. Disabling the hinting feature on the LCD screen results in a horribly aliased font. In conclusion, hinting is for LCDs and not for CRTs.
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Anonymous2008-01-16 5:44
>>2
THAT LOOKS LIKE FUCKING SCHEME I LOVE FUCKING SCHEME
>>196
Probably not, it's barely modified. Standard color schemes, and for instance names are not demangled in IDA. The dead giveaway are of course the autocomments (``increment by 1'' lol).
>>208
- Your fonts are too fucking small. Your eyes may not agree with you right now, but they will in ten years.
- Do you constantly forget what OS you're running?
- 60.0 Celcius? Do you live in the suburbs of Hell or something?
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Anonymous2008-01-17 18:09
>>210
what about the shit-ugly C code?
Also, you mentioned the small font.. well i have a small font too, im using computers for not too long..
My vision is VERY blurry. before computers it was perfect. fuck?
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Anonymous2008-01-17 18:14
>>211
Well, things like minutes = hours % 100; kind of raised my troll alert. Have fun with your eye and neck pain, though.
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Anonymous2008-01-17 18:30
>>212
And what? you don't have them? How?
Just genes or ?
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Anonymous2008-01-17 18:35
>>211
It could well be coincidence that your vision is degrading, as it tends to happen with age anyway. Similarly, people often complain after they start wearing glasses that they're making their vision even worse, long-term - this generally is not true either.
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Anonymous2008-01-17 18:38
My coding screen is a standard Visual Studio 2008 window maximised on a 1024x768 display.
>>222
His sight is extremely bad, that wouldn't help. He literally can only read a few characters at a time, and they need to be huge. But he also needs enough screen to work on, so that's why he zooms the screen like that.
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Anonymous2008-01-17 20:41
>>223
Oh, I think I see what you mean. I didn't understand the "32x32 pixel window" part.
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Anonymous2008-01-17 21:00
>>210
You're doing it backwards. Back in the mid-80s I was using a VIC-20 with something like 22 chars across a TV set. Now I'm on high-res displays with 5x7 pixel fonts.