That's it, I'm moving to the UK

The US has failed for long enough

>>11
So there's no evidence of the newly formed secret police whisking people away in the street.

I'm unfortunately stuck in the US for at least another half decade while I finish up my schooling.  I'm not very optimistic about where this country will go in the future, but I'm fairly confident that if it gets nasty, there will be a revolution.

>>40

The BNP will not save Britain, it's connected to holocaust denial organizations and Neo-Nazi's.

>>40
Labor and is same shit of different flavor.

BNP is a diseased lump of stinking, maggot infested pile of vomit, feces and human entrails, and naturally you are retarded for even considering to vote for them.

>>43
>>44

The BNP in power would be the best thing that could ever happen for britain atm. And most likly the best thing that could happen for europe and opssibly america. White people would be moving here in droves from all over europe and the world.

They are the very opposite of all the problems I've said.

They want to bring back proper sentences for crimes.
Make it legal for people to defend thier property with deadly force.
Bring back corpral punishment in schools.
Eliminate immigration.
Foster a spirit of britishness and culture.
What else could be better atm?

Labour and the Conservatives are really, really similar, and are the reason our political system is in such a mess. But knowing that, concluding that the BNP are the right choice is totally missing the point. Britain went down the toilet as soon as the left was crushed as a political force, and it needs to be properly revived.

>>45
Proof only BNP supporters are retarded butthurt wannabe-american racists. Seriously, people like you should move to the US, your ancestors might have missed the boat, but it's not too late.

>>47
shut up libfag. Criticising without a discussion doesn't make you clever or right, only retards like you need that pointed out.
You're the same as every other faggot who can't string an intelligable argument together apart from "racist" to argue with the bnp. You've even backed down from calling the bnp fascist beacuse can't defend that point intelligently. GG faggot.
Justifying myself to people like you just devalues the arguement.

>>46

Problem with England isn't right vs left.
This is what I think is wrong;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Managerial_state

America has been fail ever since the Pilgrims in 1500's

>>48
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Cry more, pathetically retarded BNP cocksucker. Only supporters of that party are butthurt morons and some old people who miss the atrocities of their youth. Thinking HURRR HURRR DEFENDAN DA PROPERTY WIT DADLY FORS HURRR LETS BEAT UP KIDS AND HANG THIEVES DURRRR is seriously nothing that could be defended by any intelligent organism. Enjoy your denial.

>>48
Do you honestly think the size and role of the state would be reduced with a BNP government? I don't think you really understand the nature of the party you claim to support, which isn't surprising. I get the impression that most BNP supporters are pissed off, and rightly so, but they fail when it comes to identifying the causes of the problems.

Not that there is much difference between the BNP and Labour/Tories. BNP =  flag waving fascists, Tories/Labour = crypto fascists.

>>40
Blaming Ethnic minorities and the Government for the Auk's countries economic weakness is the written equivalent of throwing shit at a wall.

The fact is that the UK rose to power on the backs of other nations, and now nobody wants to play anymore.

At best the UK only has a role serving as a meeting place for international trade. 

You state that blacks and Parks run the government, this is untrue.  They reside in the lower/middle echelons of government, but VERY few actually make manegerial decisions.

You say that:
|"Government is more interested in catering to minorities and pressure groups which is generally because they have more unanimous voting records. "

This is probably the only point I agree with you on, many politicians are well known for their manipulations of minority groups who are only more than willing to vote for the first person to recognise they even exist. 

A good example of this was George W Bush his plans on the hispanic/Mexican community. 

What I am trying to get at here is although they are partially to blame(due to their own ignorance of the situation), really the problem lies with the improper dealings of the politicians.

Currently, worldwide, power is being taken away from citizens for various reasons I think you are being abit close minded as to who really benefits from the erosion of culture, intelligence and common decency in the world. 

BNP and its supporters don't exist IRL. They're a fabrication of the government, for when people say "What could be worse?", there is an now answer, and of course, when they think "who could be more stupid", again there is an answer.

Quite honestly, Amerifags, Britfags, Germanfags, and all the other EU and North Americanfags need to band together, and buy an island, and live on the mother fucker. Though, I do believe I'm giving all of us to much credit. Why? Because we will probably take a good thing and fuck it all to hell once again.

The UK is a great place to live and anyone who doesn't think so can fuck off back to Africa or Pakistan or whatever other third world shithole they crawled out of. That said, I think there is a number of things that can be improved. This is what I think this country needs:

1. Tax Reform
2. Money and Banking Reform

These first two are connected because taxes are too high because they are being wasted servicing interest on Government Debts, to solve this problem there should be a windfall tax on bank profits to lower everyone elses taxes. The Bank of England needs to become a Social Credit Bank to take money creation out of the hands of Private Banks.

2. Land Reform
3. Immigration Reform

These second two are connected also. Land Reform is nessasary to end Real Estate speculation, which has reached the absurd extent that I once saw a website apparently speculating on Real Estate on The Moon, a joke of course because there is no State existing on The Moon to enforce Property Rights, so The UN should be considered the de facto Government of The Moon and anyone owning Real Estate on The Lunar Surface should be forced to pay a Tax to The UN. The same should apply on Earth, anyone owning Real Estate should pay Tax on it, because right now their is no incentive to develop land, so that land goes unused. Forcing People to pay Tax on the land they own would force it open to development. Right now The Government taxes smoking to discourage smoking, taxes drinking to discourage drinking and taxes work which discourages work and leads to a culture of Labour Aristocracy or Welfare Nobility in which People prefer Welfare State Benefits to Work, if they would stop taxing work and started taxing Land Owners and Bank Profits instead they could then abolish Income Taxes which is a tax on Work which discourages Work. Similarly a tax on Land Ownership punishes those who own land and leave it undeveloped for speculative purposes, the so-called "Green Belt".

On the immigration issue it is clear that there are too many third world immigrants being let into this country and many of them are terrorists, rapists, murderers, child molesters, as soon as an immigrant commits a crime they should be deported to the third world, in the case of criminal Jews they should be deported to Israel, this is because under Israeli Law anyone with at least one Jewish Grandparent can claim Israeli Citizenship, the Law of Return. Under International Law Mass Deportation AKA Population Transfer is Legal and this Legal Precedent was set after WWII with the expulsion of Germans from Eastern Europe. It is Legal to expel any Population that can claim Citizenship in another country, such as Jews vis-a-vis Israel. I am not sure what Laws govern Pakistani Citizenship or whether Pakis born in The UK are entitled to Pakistani Citizenship, if not then Pakistan needs to correct their Citizenship Laws so the British Citizenship of Pakis can be revoked if they misbehave. On the issue of EU Immigration the problem is in British Membership of The EU and the Land Reform issue in Eastern Europe which comes back to Land Reform and the peasants being pushed off their land by Real Estate Speculators which probably has something to do with Liberalization of communist era Land Regulations.

The best way to end immigration is to encourage abortion in the Third World, something that The US Federal Government and The Catholic Church have a very poor record on. Hopefully with a Clinton Presidency, the Evangelicals in America will not be able to influence US Foreign Policy on promoting Contraception and Abortion in The Third World as much as they did during the Bush43 Presidency. There needs to be some sort of One-Child Policy in The Third World enforced by The UN, EU and hopefully The USA as well. The heroic Coalition and NATO soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq need to be building abortion clinics in every community there to decimate the birthrate, including partial-birth abortions, we should be killing the terrorists in their mother's wombs to make the Occupation safer for the Occupation Forces. The Immigration problem is only happening because Third World women are not having enough abortions, those fetuses that should have been aborted wash up on Great Britain's shores as illegal immigrants, economic migrants, bogus asylum seekers, etc.

Whether A BNP Government could fix the above problems I don't know. I do know that Spearhead, one of the Party Magazines was offering literature on Social Credit Money and Banking Reform so The Party Leadership understands the importance of reforming the Monetary System and reducing the tax burden it causes. However I consider The Land Reform issue to be equally important and I don't know where they stand on that issue other than being anti-immigration because Britain is full, when that is not the main reason for opposing immigration, if anything this country is underpopulated and could easily increase the Population to 180 Million if the 80% of UK Real Estate being held undeveloped and underdeveloped for speculative reasons by investors was released. I think a vote for The BNP as a protest vote to encourage the other Parties to move in the most correct direction is a good idea and it looks like New Labour is at last  introducing tighter immigration controls and Brown was saying "British Jobs for British Workers" so they are starting to make the right noises. The Two Main Parties are always going to outflank the BNP on The Issues, for example David Cameron attacking School Trips to Auschwitz as a gimmick, incurring the Jewish wrath, whereas we have the possibly next President of The USA McCain with his Handler Jew Lieberman going to Israel to pray at The Wailing Wall Street.

Anyway, Britain is the best country on Earth and anyone who doesn't think so is deluded. We have by far the best TV, best music, best culture, most attractive Women and anyone who disagrees is either a Bolshevik, an Islamist or a Jew who should piss off and go and live in Israel. I can't believe that there are some British People who think they would be better off in America, where a Recession or a Depression looms, where a nigger called MUBARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA could become President if McCain-Lieberman doesn't that is. When has a Muslim nigger ever even got a fraction of that close to being Prime Minister of The UK? And some Americans say that Britain and Europe are being taken over by Islamists? I love America and Americans, still I think Americans are ignorant about other countries such as The UK and they would have to live here to realise it. One of my friends is an American Immigrant and she prefers living in The UK because of The Superior British Culture and told me that when she overhears some loudmouth American Tourists she cringes and is embarrassed to be an American.

>>56
Uh, fuck no.  The UN should not be in charge of anything.  And NO ONE should pay taxes to it. 

git the FO, inbred.

>>57

That was used as an example about the deletrious effects of parasitic speculators hoarding Real Estate, I don't think anyone can really buy Real Estate on The Moon. No one actually "owns" The Moon so how could anyone be selling Real Estate there? Unless you believe that Moon Landing Hoax and believe that The Moon is owned by The US Federal Government.

>>59
no ur wrong
i own the moon.

>>45


People is a shit hole cause of the ring wingers not left wingers. The working class are yobs, because society has abandoned them. Its a shame working class idiots fight each other. They should attack the posh people who are driving the prices of everything up.

The police are only there to protect the rich. Also the police are not cowards when it comes to assaulting me for nothing.

I agrree Paki's coming into the country sucks, but dont blame them. Blame the upper classes, they brought them in to take away the British working classes rights. There is no such thing are the British working class anymore.

Poor people like to smoke, and drink as theres nothing better to do. Not suprising that its getting taxed, and taxed more.

We need less right wing scum bags not more. Its people like Tatcher and Blair that caused the problems.

>>56
First half of your post makes sense, the second is complete rubbish. Britian isnt the best country in the world. We get overcharged for everything. Our goverment is the lap dog of the USA.

The UK could be a much better place, but we need to criticize it to help inprove it. If your happy with the way the country is turning out why dont you fuck off to the USA?

I dont want this country turning into the USA lite. The UK was great not because of its empire, but because he had a working class that fought for its rights. Now the working class doesnt exist. Its the benifit class (Who can blame them, with such shity jobs, poorly paid, and overpriced housing.) Or spoiled property owning classes, who drive prices up for everyone else.

I refer you to my wall of text ( >>24 ), nobody can save britain. Not the BNP, not 4chan's fictional government party, not the Labour/Conservative brain trust. I'm on the first plane out as soon as I finish university. It sucks harder than the iphone.

But it seems so utopic in all the novels I've read.

>>64
gb2 pre-Dickens 19th century

>>63
BNP would provide the most lulz though.

>>66
If by lulz, you mean transformation to a fascist state, yes it will be great fun

...to watch from outside

unless they try to invade your country, of course

BNP would be awesome. Firstly there would be almost civil war tensions, we'd have loads of white people moving here. We could own guns again, corpral punishment, capital punishment.
I'd do it just to see how other ultra-liberal euro states would react and how thier population would act.

>>67
Bnp is more paleoconservative under Nick Griffin than anything else. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservatism
Bnp fits into the fachist definition about as well as labour does. It's a silly suggestion and would be hard to defend.

>>68
>we'd have loads of white people moving here
>We could own guns again, corpral punishment, capital punishment.
...and then,
>Bnp fits into the fachist definition about as well as labour does. It's a silly suggestion and would be hard to defend.

Enjoy your denial and inability to spell, retard.

>>69
Also, in before the retard denies the meaning behind the "we'd have loads of white people moving here", and cries about IS HAVING WHITE PEOPLE RACIST HURRR DURRRR

US is basically a country made up by rejected brits and niggers, it's natural for people to prefer the original over the cheap colonial copy.

>>71
You know, when you put it that way I can understand why there are so many stupid fucks here.

>>63

I'm with you. The country may become worse in every way, but we'd have a hell of a time. We love having things to complain about. And this would be the biggest.

I don't understand why any of you are complaining.  Everyone in the UK has a private estate with dozens of acres of land for private hunting, fishing, and horseback riding.  Perhaps the inheritance has spoiled you.

Britain doesn't have Bush. Why would anyone want to move there?

I don't think people appreciate how fucked Britain is in the long term. We're an over populated nation with no natural resources, our industry collapsed in the 70's, and Thatcher sold all of our state property to European companies.

Gordon Brown calls us a "service economy", but what the fuck does that mean? A country full of beauty therapists isn't going to have long-term prosperity, up to now we've been sponging off financial transactions in London, and North Sea oil which in turn filter down through the economy. That isn't at all sustainable, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

It pisses me off when people with this BNP morons live out their nationalist fantasies here, because it's absolute bullshit. What we need to do is renationalise all of our major industries who's profits all go to European tycoons, and join the Euro because Pound Sterling will be in a real mess quite soon, just like the dollar because we don't export ANYTHING (unlike Germany).

My advice is move to Canada, and if you're voting BNP in the next election enjoy your national service, and becoming as self-righteous and stupid as America.

>>76
I fear for our future too.

>>76
>What we need to do is renationalise all of our major industries who's profits all go to European tycoons

This is pretty much BNP policy.

National service would be awesome.

Dear BNP voters,
Srsly, why not get the fuck out and go to merica, clearly we have missed some of your retarded ancestors when we were shipping idiots overseas. Please, help us correct this mistake.

Signed,

Edward Penis

http://www.people.co.uk/news/news/tm_method=full&objectid=16446243&siteid=93463-name_page.html
http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16471562&method=full&siteid=93463&headline=record-breakkers---name_page.html
http://lordinquisitor.blogspot.com/2007/10/attacked-over-her-30jj-breasts.html

Something in the water makes all the women miraculously better.  I must travel there for myself.