When will the DOW hit 15,000?

I'm betting on NEVER.  14,000-something will be the all-time high.  Our grandchildren (if we ever survive long enough to have them) will learn know of this number and its significant association with the peak of capitalist American society.  They won't learn of the aftermath soon after the DOW retreated from 14,000 but will be told none of it was pretty in the coming years.

>>38
Sure, the returns on your CAPITAL investment can exceed the going interest rate.  But you invariably place that CAPITAL amount in a position of GREAT RISK in order to pursue such high rates on average.

As for owning a house when you're 25 ... bother to SAVE MONEY for such an event and then I'll respect what you have to say about it.  Renting money to buy a house is no different on average than "throwing money away" on cheap rent while you SAVE money to buy it later.

The real estate industrial complex (REIC) really sunk its talons into you fucktards, didn't it?  It got you believing that a house is an INVESTMENT (which is easily proven over time to be worse than a CD).  But as the home-owning and -buying percentage of America climbed, home EQUITY dropped in America ... to reportedly the level of 1945.  So on average, a nation of losers was born, and they are just slaves to banks.  And you know what?  We've seen that kind of condition BEFORE ... in 1929.

Since I have money and no debts, I guess I'll be driving past you heavily indebted losers when you're standing in the cold for your watery soup and moldy bread.  But you should have known:  DEBT IS NOT WEALTH.  Wealth is expressed in PRODUCTIVE CAPITAL, and a house is NOT a producer.  Neither are stocks and bonds.  In fact, all financial instruments in the USA are now heavily tainted by fraud.  You'd literally have to be an infantile fool drooling stupid over yourself, to ever believe that it's safe to park so much of your money in such instruments.

BUMP FOR MOLDY BREAD

>house is NOT a producer. 

Poster is both unmarried and has never seen a pregnant woman first hand, nor has he watched a woman in labor giving birth to a child.

He is most likely a chauvinist, has several venereal diseases and shuffles women like cards and has a day job on the 50th floor of a faceless office building in manhattan and this is his lunch break.

>>43
You can produce a child equally well in a house, a condo, or an apartment.  Since all domiciles are "producers" in that fashion, it's a CONSTANT and therefore doesn't apply to this discussion.

In huge contrast, I'm talking about a CAPITAL ASSET THAT PRODUCES A FINANCIAL INCOME.  Houses can only do that by being rented*.  And what are the rental rates in these bubble zones in comparison to the mortgage+insurance+HOA and other so-called ownership payments?  Oh, yeah:  AT MOST 50%.  That just means that those homeDEBTors are actually subsidizing rentals.  That's a GREAT DEAL ... for the renter, that is.

When will you learn that you have frankly wrong biases based upon bank programming?  Keep being a bankslave if you want, but you should also prepare to be PWNT with some regularity when you dare to vocalize your programmed stupidity.

* Note well that houses can also be converted into prisons for White slaves, or into growhouses for marijuana.  I'm sure those fit right into your worldview, you despicable wad of festering goat pus!

>>41
Every business pays interest and dividends to it's creditors/shareholders. The money you keep in the bank is almost like an extremely low risk stock and the interest you gain is like an extremely waterred down dividend, all you are doing is playing it safe. I guarantee if you put $100000 into 1000 banks and I put $100000 into 1000 low risk stocks I will make more money than you.

>>41
perpetual povertyfag

>>43
>>44
samefag

>>45
There is no such thing as a guaranteed investment except a savings account or CD.  Please make the same statement as a broker.  Please.  I'll need the link to it, so that I can inform the SEC about the crime you just committed.

If a return was that easy, everyone in such a market (which is millions upon millions) would be doing it, and as such, it could NOT deliver, since stocks are a zero-gain instrument.

BTW, that $100K only needs to be put into ONE bank, since the FDIC insures that amount at least.

As it is, conservative investment is only being demonized since you "investards" feel squeezed by inflation and job losses and the housing bubble into taking absurd risks with your money.  This risky environment is only making you poorer, as the news clearly shows.  So eventually, Americans will become so poor from stock losses that SAVING MONEY will return as the basis of an American's financial life.  Cut costs and save money.  Nothing else works for the middle class.

>>48
The economy isn't that slow dumbass. Pretty much every country in Asia has a 10% growth rate and this can only be seen as a quiverring asian pussy hungry for a thick 11 inch 100% True American white megacock to inseminate it, except by repressed homosexuals such as yourself.

>>49
I'm pretty sure you're the same faggot as RedCream, by having an alter ego post as someone more retarded than him, I believe he looks better in comparison. Which, I believe, is the same thing some faggots are pulling off simultaneously in the libertarian thread

I have no debt, but actively invest with the some spare money I have.  I've made a good bit of money since I started.  If I lose it all tomorrow I'm still fine.  Why do you have a stick up your ass RedCream?

>>50
You'd think that, but you'd be wrong.
>>51
He blows a problem in society out of proportion and when someone points out how much of a fag he's being he starts whining and calling everyone blind lemmings who can't see the troof. He probably believes this is all linked to jews somehow.

Hey expert investors, let's start a 4chan investment group.  We can be Venture Capitalists for /b/ based interests.

>>53
gtfo newfag

I have a number of business proposals.  From what I hear there are some users of this forum in the top 10% income bracket.

>>55
HAY GUYS I WOULD POST A PICTURE OF ME WITH MY NEW BUGATTI VEYRON BUT IT'S A TEXTBOARD, WELL I HAVE TO LEAVE 4CHAN NOW AND RUN MY OIL CORPORATION.