how can we convince people Israel sucks?

I've taken part in a whole bunch of Zionism threads, and I've noticed that despite my mountains of evidence that modern Israel is a bloodthirsty, militant leech that offers nothing but pain, misery and debt to both America and her neighbors, people seem intent on defending her.  I've also noticed that very few minds are changed in these debates; i.e. people who support Israel continue to do so and people who don't support Israel continue not to.

What new tactics can be used to convince people that Israel, in it's modern Zionist form, is a scourge upon the land?

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You fucking gringos created that power vacuum to begin with, so why do you come up with this stupid pretext? That's exactly what you wanted when you fucking invaded Iraq: a pretext. And why would you want to start a war with Iran besides kissing kike ass? You have top-of-the-notch satellite technology and you made up the "evidence" to go to Iraq. Fucking kike-lovers. Take your troops back to your fucking Gringoland and leave the Turd World alone.