how can we convince people Israel sucks?

I've taken part in a whole bunch of Zionism threads, and I've noticed that despite my mountains of evidence that modern Israel is a bloodthirsty, militant leech that offers nothing but pain, misery and debt to both America and her neighbors, people seem intent on defending her.  I've also noticed that very few minds are changed in these debates; i.e. people who support Israel continue to do so and people who don't support Israel continue not to.

What new tactics can be used to convince people that Israel, in it's modern Zionist form, is a scourge upon the land?

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While I applaud seeking the truth of Israel's shameful conduct, please also remind yourselves that the Arab countries (mostly Jordan, Egypt, and Syria) also shat all over the Palestinians during the periods of Jewish immigration.  They knew damn well they were disenfranchising the Palestinian people (and themselves, really) when they sold their land for Jewish and British cash.  And since the formation of the state of Israel, they have done jack shit to help the cause of the Palestinians, choosing instead to bicker among themselves and jockey for the juicy parts of the West Bank.

tl;dr:  Fuck Israel, but fuck Jordan, Syria, and Egypt too.