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lets be honest about Israel

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 2:30

1) most israelis are racist.  something like 80% of them are "deeply troubled" over the idea of living next to an arab. 

2) israel is anti-democratic.  most israeli arabs can't vote, challenge the idea of a Jewish state, intermarry, own land in Jewish areas or even live and work in Jewish areas

3) israel is a leech.  it has the highest aid to GDP ratio of any first world nation

4) israel is militant.  look up the uss liberty on google.  or the ratio of civilian deaths.

5)  etc....

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 2:50

keep preaching it, people are waking up to the reality

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 3:17

>>2

its so obvious.  i mean israel is fucking building a wall to keep lawful arab citizens away from the jewish areas.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 11:04

>>3
Its to keep the zombies out...

Name: RedCream 2007-10-27 11:28

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Israel is a Nazi-like state in the Middle East just like all the other states there.  Americans like to pretend the Jews are some upstanding religion or race or nation or whatever they are, but deep down we know they are Fascists.  We like Fascists and we want to be Fascists too.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 12:26

>>5
The sheer faggotry of your retarded conspiracy theories is why zionism is so succesful.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 13:43

>>6

Typical response - you make a personal attack because you simply can't acknowledge the mountains of evidence condemning Israel.  Chinese UN teams are still digging cluster bombs out of Lebanon and while Israel has admitted they're responsible, they have yet to provide them with any maps or guidance.

It's like they want those bombs to be there, in civilian neighborhoods, near all those little lids.

Name: RedCream 2007-10-27 15:32

>>6
Zionism is the DISEASE.  Public exposure is the CURE.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 15:40

Like you faggots really give a fuck about arabs? Just face it, you hate Jews and want to justify it.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 16:17

>>9

another post with no content that doesn't even come close to refuting the legitimate concerns against the Israeli government.  instead of blithely attacking us on the basis of our supposed motives, why don't you try to explain the enormous casualty disparity between Israel and Palestine. 

http://www.btselem.org/english/statistics/Casualties.asp

And remember, all Israelis support the IDF through their taxes, while only a percentage of Palestinians support Hezbollah or Fatah.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 19:53

>>10
It's absurd to value the life of an arab as much as the life of a Jew. GTFO with egalitarianism crap.

Arabs = Worthless
Jews = Comprise a large percentage of the intellectual elite. Their countless contributions to the world include 165 Nobel prizes (3000 times as likely per capita as a Muslim to get one). Their security should be of utmost importance, for the sake of civilization and humanity.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 20:09

>>11
It's absurd to compare inferior kikes to humans. Also, Israel had 1 (o-n-e) science-based Nobel prize, chemistry I believe. Most others were for Jews from White nations (Jews awarding Jews for being Jews).

So this makes your point about protecting Israel (Mostly sand niggers, even the Ashkenazi, as proven by DNA tests) worthless.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 20:18

Wiki says 8 Nobel prize for Israel - with a population of 7 million. That's more than the whole 1 billion+ Muslims have put together.

Anyway you have just shown you're an anti-Semite motivated by hatred, so there's no point trying to have a rational argument here.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 20:27

>>13
Wiki says 8 Nobel prize for Israel
Please GTFO. I don't give a shit about peace, literature and economics prizes. I said science-based. Elie Wiesel, one of the world foremost scumbags, gets a Peace prize. This alone is proof of its worthlessness nowadays.
Anyway you have just shown you're an anti-Semite motivated by hatred
hatred
LOL.
It's absurd to value the life of an arab as much as the life of a Jew. GTFO with egalitarianism crap.
Arabs = Worthless
And this isn't hatred. Riiight.

So, ok. Suppose Jews rule. And Israel sucks. Why support Israel, again?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 20:53

Read "My Israel Question" by Anthony Lowenstein.

The problem isn't Jews, it is the Zionist sentiment that the majority of Jews are instilled with from birth.

No other religions need a "nation" with clearly defined and easily defensible borders. Whe the fuck do they??!!1

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 21:11

>>15
No other religions need a "nation"
religions
If Jews are merely members of a religion, then why did I just get called an anti-Semite?
The problem isn't Jews, it is the Zionist sentiment that the majority of Jews are instilled with from birth.
Translation: The problem isn't Jews, it's their genes? Or are you a creationist that thinks behavioural traits are not genetically inherited at all?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 21:15

>>16
Translation: The problem isn't Jews, it's their genes? Or are you a creationist that thinks behavioural traits are not genetically inherited at all?

I refuse to believe anyone is dumb enough to interpret that post as suggesting something about genetics.  You have to be trolling.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 21:20

Lulz... What side are you even on troll?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 21:26

>>17
Ok, please explain how a Zionist sentiment can be instilled from birth in the majority of Jews without genetics. Either rephrase or gtfo.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 21:29

>>19
The same way homophobia is instilled in Catholics from birth?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 21:30

>>20
from birth
No.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 21:37

>>20
Actually, I'll take that back. Homophobia can be genetically inherited as well. But it's not what you mean.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 21:37

arabs ist pwnd by israel

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 21:37

Jews get their ideals from the Zionist Summer camps and upbringing they get.

I do believe they're adept at handling money though, my goto financial adviser while not being a practicing Jew, is a Jew none-the-less.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 21:45

Grossman et al. and Sage et al., in I. Bretherton & E. Waters (Eds.), “Growing Points in Attachment Theory and Research. Monographs for the Society for Research in Child Development.” 50(1-2), 233-275.

Study showing Israeli babies having significantly more stranger anxiety (intense crying) than West German babies.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-27 23:40

>>24

tell me more about these suumer camps.  i was not aware they existed

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-28 1:14

>>26
They are kinda like Al-Qaeda terrorist training camps. They are part of the conspiracy where Jews learn to loathe and exploit the goyim, and are taught tactics on how to divide, destroy, and eventually take over the world. Every Jew in the world has been to one of these camps but is forbidden to talk about them.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-28 1:21

I didn't say I supported or opposed zionism, I only said I oppose RedCream's faggotry and believe it aids zionism.

For the record I support the justified interests of both Palestinians and Israelis.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-28 1:48

I think the Niggers should get there own state in the middle east. Why do only the jews get to have the fun of bullying the Arabs?

Name: LordRiordan 2007-10-28 2:05

Why the fuck would you like arabs over jews?
Arabs are dirty, smelly, uncivilized, and blow you up.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-28 2:12

>>30

OP here.  this is where you show that your making a critical misinterpretation.  i don't give a fuck about either group and find it absolutely insane that we take sides with the smaller, more antagonistic group.

Name: RedCream 2007-10-28 11:30

>>31
Quote this man!  Zionism (Jewish Fundamentalism) as equally evil as Islamic Fundamentalism.  We should not be supporting or tolerating either extreme.  That's what the uncut-cock-sucking fools like Lord Riordan (>>30) don't understand.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-28 11:39

RedCream hates Jews.

Name: RedCream 2007-10-28 11:42

>>33
ZIONISM =/= JEWS

You fuckballing assbag!  Zionism is the blight upon the face of mankind, equalling in scope the horrors of Islamic Fundamentalism and Hypercapitalism.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-28 11:43

You hate Zionism, you hate Jews. It's as simple as that, you fucking Nazi.

Name: RedCream 2007-10-28 11:43

>>33
In other words:

SHOVE YOUR JUDEOPHILIA UP YOUR ASS!

Name: RedCream 2007-10-28 11:46

>>35
I hate Zionism and that has nothing to do with any Jew desiring to live in peace and watchful defense.  Take your "anti-Semitic" kneejerking somewhere else, where Libfags suck each other's political dicks while they pretend they're ruling the world.  COCK!  JUDEOPHILE!

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-28 11:46

Shove your anti-Semitism there as well.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-28 11:47

>>37
So why do you hate Jews again?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-28 11:48

I think he's trolling you, redcream.

Name: RedCream 2007-10-28 13:15

>>40
Possibly.  The mainstream morons act in much the same way, so it's difficult to tell.  No criticism of Israel is tolerated in the mainstream, which is why Israel is getting so far out of control.

Judeophilia is becoming the knife that cuts the throat of our civilization.  Naturally, the Zionists will be there to pick up the pieces for a song.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-28 16:44

JEWS ARE FUCKING KIKENIGGERSPICANALBABIES

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-29 14:51

I love it how people equate people being "against" Israel with that of being a complete Nazi. +10 Logic.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-29 16:31

>>43
You'd think that someone who is against Israel would hate the thing that created Israel in the first fucking place, LOL.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-29 17:27

>>41

RedCream is not an anti-smeite he is anti-zionist and the fuking morons that don't know the difference are the problem. They are the ones making: criticism of israel + not being jewish = Neo-Nazism.

I have many jewish friends and they agree with me in saying Israel should exist but the way in which it does exist is commiting fundamental human rights abuses.

Stop crying "Nazi" every time someone tells a jew off. They are humans and as such they fuck up from time to time.

Name: RedCream 2007-10-29 17:37

Being against Judeophilia is NOT Judeophobia.

Naturally, Judeophiliacs don't understand such logic.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-29 17:56

Am I the only one that thinks naming youself God's "Chosen People" is just a liiiitle bit racist. Not against anyone in particular but against EVERYONE!!!

Kinda like Adolf and his "Master Race"...

Now theres a fun comparison...

"Chosen People"  -   "Master Race"

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-29 18:26

>>47
Fuck off with your worn-out Allied Gruelpropaganda.
Find me a reference to "Master race." You can't. It's a fucking lie.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-29 20:36

>>46
Heh, Judeophilia. Sounds like a bizarre sex fetish rather than a form of discrimination.

It would be nice if Israel could exist without having to blow the ever loving shit out of its neighbours. But that whole "Israel should be wiped of the map" spouted by some of the countries around them and the fact most of their history consisted of them being conquered by other countries has got to foster some level of xenophobia within the populace. Not that it's much justification for shit like what they did to Lebannon(sp?).

Considering how many centruies the area is being fought over I highly doubt there will ever be peace there. Well unless everyone living there kills everyone else there.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-30 8:41

>>49 is a clear Judeophiliac.

But that whole "Israel should be wiped of the map" spouted by some of the countries around them and the fact most of their history consisted of them being conquered by other countries has got to foster some level of xenophobia within the populace.
Straw man, and using a fake quote at that. He never said that "Israel should be wiped off the map." He said and I quote:
"The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] from the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad)."*
Neither map, nor Israel. But go ahead and spread this BS more.

* http://www.juancole.com/2006/05/hitchens-hacker-and-hitchens.html
or http://www.mohammadmossadegh.com/news/rumor-of-the-century/ or http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP101305 or http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jonathan_steele/2006/06/post_155.html etc.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-31 17:02

>>50
Okay I was wrong, he said they should be erased from HISTORY, that's so much better. Like I said, it's not a huge surprise that they're a bunch of paranoids, and no I feel no sympathy to EITHER side.

If you want my honest opinion on the Middle East "glass parking lot" about sums it up. Nobody should have that worthless shithole.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-31 17:05

>>50

Die in a car fire you illeterate fuck,

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-31 17:30

>>51
But he talks about the regime -- that's something else. It's not hard to understand that it was a blatant lie and misrepresentation.

I don't care about them either, but I'd rather just nuke Israel, only if, of course, they refuse to repay our foreign aid back. In b4 it was aid, and I understand. Don't give a shit.

>>52
illeterate
...

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-31 18:18

>>51
>>52

so if i choose to say that the current model of Israel, which is nothing more than theocratic colonialism, is outdated and deserves to be wiped away, I'm somehow anti Semitic???

loooolllll  gb2the19thcentury

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-31 19:12

>>40

LOL. How did RedCream not know he was being trolled? Jee-zus, get some self-control, you douche.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-31 21:06

Here is what Jefferson said:

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical."

why do i have to pay taxes and support Zionism and Israel again?

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-01 5:36

our government is controlled by money

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-01 7:39

>>57

The only way any of you will change anything is to become corporations and enforce your beliefs with your back account. That's how the world is run. You have to understand that. We've already sold ourselves to the system, now have to buy our piece of it back.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-01 12:16

>>53 My bad on teh spleeling. I'd just gtfo and let everyone there fend for themselves. Let all sides nuke the shit out of eachother and leave the ruins to rot.

>>54 I'm bored, I'll bite. Tell me exactly where I called anyone an anti-semite. Even better, tell me where I showed sympathy for anyone.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-01 22:44

>>59

gtfo

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-02 2:24

>>27
wow thats just a little bit insane

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-02 5:23

>>61
gb2 jew camp sandnigger lizard jew freemason gray alien kike!

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-02 10:17

>>62
never been to jew camp but im shure its not what you think it is.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-02 11:11

does jew camp really exist.  the kibbutzim movement is pretty strong in Israel, what do they talk about at all those camps?  there must be some common explanation for Israel's irrational antagonism (taking their land, refusing them the vote, denying them rights, etc...) towards the arabs.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-02 23:20

Fuck Islam. Power to Israel. At least the jews are stupid enough to blow themselves up just to kill a few innocent people at a random cafe. Bunch of sandniggers wouldn't be worth shit if they didn't have that god damn oil.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-02 23:24

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-02 23:35

>>66

lol

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-02 23:43

Isreal, in Palestine... worst.idea.ever.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-03 0:12

>>60

I'm still waiting.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-03 1:08

Hey man, any nation that believes God told it something has some fundamental flaws, to put it lightly. LOL

But in all seriousness, Israelis zionists are one fucked up group of people. Murder is ok so long as it's not a jew?

This mentality starts early;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mO8CWSam2o


There is a large jewish population in Israel who condemn this bullshit and are actively petitioning/protesting, but since Israel is a military dictatorship vaguely disguised as democracy, it doesn't work. 

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