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Stupid in America

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-24 21:28 ID:jszYbOdn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfRUMmTs0ZA

What should be done about education in America?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-11 0:49

Name: RedCream 2007-10-11 0:53

More TLB:

1. Public education system fails.
2. Public education system costs more money than ever.
3. Liberals conclude that the system needs MOAR money!

The raw truth of it is that Libfags enjoy having the government control things regardless of the consequences.  In addition, since public educators are largely unionized, we can see the 2nd pillar supporting the Libfag preferences.

Hence:  Liberalism is just a religion.  Liberals believe and support certain things not because they are true, but because they AREN'T true.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-12 4:41

Department of Education needs to go. This retardation of America started around 80s, coincidentally... Department of Education started then.

Essentially, what happens is schools get funding based on grades. - if your students are failing, lower the grading standards. Standard practices in high schools. Get rid of DoE and let teachers choose their own lessons.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-12 4:44

Department of education chooses the fucking school curricula. The fucking teachers and parents should be doing it.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-12 16:33

I think the biggest problem, at least in the inner city schools is that a large portion of the funding comes from property taxes.  Surprisingly enough, in poor areas, they don't get much property tax (because poor people don't own property).  What happens is pretty predictable -- the inner city schools are incapable of educating the kids.  They have 10 books for 4 classes of 30 each. 

You cannot teach that way, not even if you're the best fucking teacher on the planet.  PS, you don't make much more than you would if you'd not even gone to college and had instead worked your way up to managing a Wal-Greens.  You can't attract anyone of reasonable skill if they could make more money and have to put up with less bullshit elsewhere.  So spare me this "Union" crap.  I'll believe that teachers are "overpaid" when I stop hearing about suburban teachers needing foodstamps.

Pug ma Thon.

Name: RedCream 2007-10-13 0:15

It's crazy, isn't it?  We demand teachers have a 4-yr education, and often push them into 6 and 8 years of education ... yet we DON'T GIVE THEM MINIMUM AUTHORITY IN THEIR CLASSROOMS.  Are we nuts, or what?  Why do we demand such a large standard of education in teachers when we immediately tell them by proxy that they really don't know how (or can't be trusted) to teach the subject in the classroom?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-14 4:38

>>45
Regardless of whether or not they are overpaid, teachers should have to compete for their jobs and deal with natural market forces like competition just like everyone else does.  Schools and their administration should as well.  Competition makes things better.  It forces companies and enterprises (such as schools) to offer people better deals and better products and services.  The solution to our education issues is School Choice, not more funding for education.  See video below: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfRUMmTs0ZA

Name: RedCream 2007-10-14 8:39

>>47
I'm trying to sell the viewpoint that competition makes things better once the sector in question is completely locked up with entitlement programs.  Teachers demand higher pay and benefits even when their school systems are going down the toilet by several metrics.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-14 14:46

I blame retarded kids

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-14 15:52

>>49
I blame retarded parents and ice smokers who have kids.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-15 5:52

I blame lack of School Choice.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-15 6:22

>>51
Ron Paul would allow parents the freedom to choose which school to send their kids to and tax breaks.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-15 13:29

>>52
He's got my vote.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-15 21:03

Okay somebody quick tell me what the fuck is up with Ron Paul and why /newpol/ is so obsessed with him.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-16 0:32

>>54
Libertarianism. Internet. Etc..

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