Proof niggers are dumb (IQ, brain size etc)

Oriental populations in East Asia and North America typically have mean IQs falling between 101 to 111. White populations in Europe, South Africa, Australasia, and North America have mean IQs of from 85 to 115, with an overall mean of 100. Black populations living south of the Sahara, in the Caribbean, in Britain, and in North America, average IQs of from 70 to 90.

Especially contentious was Lynn's calculation of a mean IQ of only 70 for Black Africans living south of the Sahara. Many reviewers have expressed skepticism about such a low IQ, holding it impossible that, by European standards, 50 percent of Black Africa is 'mentally retarded'. But a mean African IQ of 70 has been confirmed in three studies since Lynn's review, each of which used Raven's Progressive Matrices, a test regarded as an excellent measure of the non-verbal component of general intelligence and one not bound by culturally specific information.

>>36
". With your very arguement you operate under the false "if-then" assumption that: IF race is a surrogate for unknown genetic mechanisms, THEN observed racial differences in IQ and "achievement" can be explained by genetic differences"

With your very argument you operate under the falise "if-then" assumption that: IF gravity is a surrogate for unknown acceleration towards large bodies, THEN observed movement through space and "time" can be explained by gravity.

>>36
Let me guess; you're a twentysomething pseudo-intellectual type who took a college course in logic, and now you think you can refute every argument ever made by labelling it a certain logical fallacy?

You're trying to deny race; this is one of the saddest last ditch efforts by liberals who can't stand the thought of different races being unequal. GTFO with your burden of proof and haplotype crap and show me some proof of blacks being mentally equal... JUST ONE FUCKING PIECE OF EVIDENCE, ONE STUDY!

Also, In b4 ad hominem logical fallacy.

>>38

Everyone self-inflates their own worth.

If they were authentically intelligent, they wouldn't care what others thought of them or more likely, they'd see the shallowness of a number defining who they are. I fall into the latter category.

>>34

Still, this doesn't undermine the idea that races themselves have genetic and documented predisposition to diseases. In fact, the Ashkenazi Jews who are susceptible to a disease known as Tay-Sachs Disease are thought of as an intelligent race. I say this because within the scientific community, people such as Charles Murray speculate that this susceptibility to Tay-Sachs and it being a disease marked by improper lipid storage that the disease itself or the predisposition to it increases their intelligence by increasing the amount of lipids found on neural networks in the brain.

>>37

Maybe you should pick up a Scientific Journal? The burden of proof is on you. Sorry. >>34, >>35, >>36 are questions and points that the "right wing white nationalist" failed to address properly in the last debate. Maybe you should try to succeed where they failed?

And please, please, for the love of God, stop with this "leftie this, leftie that" bullshit. It makes you sound way fucking retarded. I'm far from what would be termed as "Liberal" or "Socialist". If your next reply to me has anything about "them libs" I'm going to tune right the fuck out. (Just like I do around election time). 

>>42

If your line of thinking is illogical, I think we can pretty much chalk that up to your own innate retardation. You tried to kill the messenger with ad hominem and passing the buck on the burden of proof last time. It didn't work.

Yet again, here you are unable to provide any article, any iota of empirical evidence that means fuck all to the facts presented. Keep it up the lame ass analogies, by all means. We all know you resort to them because you are unable to reply with hard science.

This argument is just going to keep going around in circles. >>41, >>42 are the same type of fail we saw in the Race thread. Just GTFO already. You lose.

>>45
Good job confirming everything I accused you of in >>42. I might as well resort to ad hominem for the lulz, because after so much evidence you continue to deny. It's shown succesful developed societies have people with high IQs (Lynn). In turn, IQ is proven to be largely inherited (countless studies have shown this, see The Bell Curve or the link posted earlier). Rushton has proven brain size varies by race and correlates to IQ. Murray's book that was mentioned before shows all the greatest human achievemers have been White men, despite being an overall minority as a race on the planet.

In the end, arguing with you is like trying to convince a creationist Christfag of the validity of evolution through evidence and reason; it just won't work, because of whatever deep-seated beliefs you already hold. At best, you might gradually change your mind over time, since people prefer to change their minds in private.

Excellent article for creationists who don't 'believe' in race, like science is a fucking democracy.
http://wiki.majorityrights.com/race

Huh, since when did /newpol/ become overrun by inbred redneck racist KKK members living in trailer parks?  Interesting development we have here.

>>48
Racist.

>>48
Huge ad hominem?
I'm not inbred, I'm not a redneck, I'm not a KKK member, and I don't live in a trailer park. I'm also European. For one.
How about you post your proof of biological equality of niggers and humans?

>>47

I like how the article is very well written and has

Malicious Jews, and there are many such individuals among Jews, have a strong interest in undermining the welfare of non-Jews, especially whites. Malicious Jews have been at the forefront of race denial in academia, and the reason is obvious. By convincing others that there are no genetic differences between populations with respect to behavior, talent, personality distributions, aptitude, creativity, acquisition of culture and other features relevant to social existence, opposition to replacement immigration can be reduced, and replacement immigration is surely an excellent way to harm the cultural and genetic interests of a population.

Is this a reality? Was my public schooling so dumb not to teach me that this is what is actually going on behind the curtains?

4chans been invaded by Nazi's because liberals and communist are brain washed pussys believing all the BS the jews shove down their throats, you are fucking pathetic delusional pussys who can't see that your race is dying before your very eyes.

Jews control 5/6ths of American media
Jews control the central banks
Jews have dominated both Republicans and Democrats
Jews used communism and multiculteralism to take over sovereign European countries, after they took over Russia for instance they murdered 50,000,000 Russians.

>>51  |Is this a reality?

no, i'm a spic and i'm smarter and wealthier than you'll ever be

>>46

Blah, Blah, Blah. You just don't seem to get that, for me, this is the same old shit you've guys been saying forever. Respond to the the points brought up in >>34, >>35, >>36 then we can talk. Otherwise: GTFO.

>>52
Yawn. Did it ever occur to you that some people just don't have the "sports team" mentality when it comes to matters of race? From what I've seen your "delusional pussy whites" aren't denying race, they're just questioning it's validity and the dogma it demands that every freeman follow. Did it ever occur to you that some of us, white-black-whatever, just don't give a shit anymore?

>>51
I don't know if you are trying to be a smartarse or not, but Jews have been at the forefront of race denial in academia. Do you not know of Franz Boas, a leftist Jew who with no formal training on the subject, hijacked Anthropology to become 'cultural anthropology' which is a joke? He constantly opposed genetic studies and denied race is relevant, based on minutiae details of behavioural randomness and suggested that skipping some of the developmental stages described by Darwin? There were 2 factions, Boasians (his cult following) v. Darwinists, and with a shitload of funding from fellow Jews and help from the media, popular support et al., he had won the battle. Again, he had NO formal training in anthropology and just declared race and genetics irrelevant by the same liberal arguments as today 'We all bleed red' and so on. At the same time, he was a proud Jew and Zionist. Do you not know of the leftist take over of academia in the 60s? Do you not know of the Jews who heavily pushed and supported the immigration reform act of 1965 (proposed by Emanuel Celler, a Jew) in the U.S. and also started such 'pro-diversity' movements in Europe? Do you now know of the Frankfurt school, which was largely Jewish, and set to dismantle Western civlisation? It is the source of 'social democracy' and modern leftism.

Of course you don't learn about these things at school. How often do you hear present day taught 'evolution' is Boas' delusion and not Darwin's theory?

Also, what is wrong with the REST OF THE FUCKING ARTICLE?

>>> ...North America typically have mean IQs falling between 101 to 111.

HAHAH RIIIIGHT

>>55

No one denies the events and the people in said events. I think what not everyone is set on is the relevance and meaning. Race isn't biological instinct. It's learned. Not saying that it doesn't exist, but the relevance of its existence is highly dubious.

All I'm saying it doesn't matter how many "facts" you trump up or how much you rant about the actions of Jews or whatever...it just appears...you know...looking at our collective genetic history that no one really gives too much a fuck about a race and the only reason people stuck to fucking their own race for so fucking long is because that's all their was. The world is a big place now and people can fuck all kinds of flavors and reproduce with whomever.

Nothing you say is going to stop that. Nothing you say matters in light of this.

Hey, racists.

Go back to Martin Luther King Jr.

Go back to your Klan meetings.

>>57

Why is it I am compelled to be attracted by people of my same genetic range? Why is it Jews only breed with Jews?

>>60
Ahahah.

Come to California some time, any kid who claims to be Jewish is probably half Jewish at most. Their other parent is almost always Catholic.

Or  did the Jew media just implant that information in my head with their magic Semitic-Beams?

#61 doesn't know a think about jews. Ashkenazi jews are 70-80% European anyway.

>>57
So you asked about Jews who have been the frontrunners of race denial in academia, I answered and I could name more, and you say it doesn't matter? I hope you're not the guy that asked, because fuck you then.

Also your race denial is understandable (I know exactly what, who, based on what errors and based on what intentions caused it) but retarded at the same time. You are being pushed by most media and academia to feel that way. It is in no way natural, and a childish, wishful thinking belief at best. Race is a valid biological construct, no matter how much you twist around pseudo-science and 'we all bleed red' baaaawww. Also, this mental disorder has only been going on after the 60s, so your culture of critique and the multiculturalist imperium is not that fastened in Western culture as some would have us believe. It's a morality that it probably subject to change soon, once the first White country will have a non-White majority.

Also, race is a biological instinct. People fuck mostly within their own race. Whites will not going down as easily as you want to. What better way to genetically kill off Whites than to deny the relevance of race? So, why do you hate us?

#63 is right on, look at South Africa and Rhodesia, aren't too many white liberals down their anymore!!!!

Whites wake up before its too late.

>>63

Yeah, no. You see I'm still not buying it. The first thing whites did when they "discovered" other races was start fucking them immediately. It's very easy to say that you're only sexually attracted to your race when that's the only "race" around.

Furthermore, as many people as there are pushing for race denial there are just as many external forces pushing whites as the prime race and just as many people emphasizing the idea of race. Just take a look at the porn you beat off to.

Finally, if anyone is in the "pseudo-science" camp, it's you guys. We've been over this and you still have to hard scientific defense for statements that have made contrary to your worldview. I'm no longer in the habit of implicitly arguing anything with your type. What mankind thinks he wants and what he actually wants are two different things with his environment being the factor.

I'm sure there are people who believe as you do, but generally speaking, when comes to race people do the exact opposite. The world is too fucking small now for the views you hold.

Sorry?

>>65
>The first thing whites did when they "discovered" other races was start fucking them immediately.
This is a typical 'White guilt' propaganda piece.

>Furthermore, as many people as there are pushing for race denial there are just as many external forces pushing whites as the prime race and just as many people emphasizing the idea of race.
Fallacy. Race deniers control academia and are overwhelmingly represented among the populace. The representatives themselves are obsessed with race. Liberals say "judge individually" and then propose a huge bloated nanny state to take care of negroes at the expense of everyone.
What's more important is the fact that the Boasian revolution in anthropology was political and not based on science at all. You don't get it. Science is not a fucking democracy, pick and choose whatever your wishful thinking mind wants to believe is real. If you're willing to totally disregard the turning point of race and why it was retarded to do so your fucking choice. But don't do what you do in your next quote: Call racialism pseudo-science.

>Just take a look at the porn you beat off to.
Don't need to, have a wife.

>Finally, if anyone is in the "pseudo-science" camp, it's you guys.
To race deniers, like creationists, it is impossible to prove race. They name dissident views heretics (or pseudo-science) and think they can get away with it because they can appeal to the majority instead of answering why is it pseudo-science. Like theism, race denial is unfalsifiable for leftists. They never say what proof would prove race for them, or ask for a non-reasonable proof.

>We've been over this and you still have to hard scientific defense for statements that have made contrary to your worldview.

Leftists would never be satisfied with science, and will always claim the proof is not 'hard enough.' However, you never fucking post proof of racial equality, despite having asked for it ITT. Not one study.

>I'm sure there are people who believe as you do, but generally speaking, when comes to race people do the exact opposite. The world is too fucking small now for the views you hold.
That's hardly a rebuttal to race, just more wishful thinking. When will you people get it? Moralism and the moral high ground (Jews introduced it in academia -- if you want I'll elaborate on that too) cannot be used to establish facts. It's an obvious bias.

>Sorry?
Well your stance is: "I don't really about anything you post, you might be right but you're wrong and it doesn't matter.
You can't be serious."

By the way, how do I quote properly? Also don't deny you're not a leftist, the second sentence you made evoking White guilt utterly exposed your school of thought.

Oops, I mean don't deny you are a leftist*

>>65
Personal question (just wondering): What's your race? Do you have any Jewish heritage?

>>68 is a nigger.

>>69

A Jew scared of the NOI Blacks.

>>70 is a nigger.

>>66

You don't really seem to get it, so this post is primarily for lulz.

This is a typical 'White guilt' propaganda piece.

What if I'm not white? Or Jewish? Or Black? Or Mexican? Or a Man?

Fallacy. Race deniers control academia and are overwhelmingly represented among the populace. The representatives themselves are obsessed with race. Liberals say "judge individually" and then propose a huge bloated nanny state to take care of negroes at the expense of everyone.

Ok, I get that this may or may not be true. But how is this relevant? 150 years ago race "embracers" controlled academia and were overwhelmingly represented among the populace. The world wasn't any better then and it isn't any better now. Or is it? What exactly are you prepared to do with this truth of yours?

What's more important is the fact that the Boasian revolution in anthropology was political and not based on science at all. You don't get it. Science is not a fucking democracy, pick and choose whatever your wishful thinking mind wants to believe is real. If you're willing to totally disregard the turning point of race and why it was retarded to do so your fucking choice. But don't do what you do in your next quote: Call racialism pseudo-science.

I wholeheartedly concur. You can't just "elect" the truth. We can play this game of allele frequencies, haplotypes, nuture vs nature all fucking day and come to 100 half-truths and people are going to still do whatever and whoever the fuck they want. Are you trying to control the genetic destiny of mankind? The effort is somewhat admirable but due to man's inner nature I don't think it's possible.

Don't need to, have a wife.

That's nice. Is she 100% white? (PROTIP: She's not and neither are you.)

To race deniers, like creationists, it is impossible to prove race. They name dissident views heretics (or pseudo-science) and think they can get away with it because they can appeal to the majority instead of answering why is it pseudo-science. Like theism, race denial is unfalsifiable for leftists. They never say what proof would prove race for them, or ask for a non-reasonable proof.

Leftists would never be satisfied with science, and will always claim the proof is not 'hard enough.' However, you never fucking post proof of racial equality, despite having asked for it ITT. Not one study.

And you still haven't scientifically addressed what's been said in posts >>34, >>35, >>36. At all. You just vomited up more shit from "Take back America" pamphlets. When the other side provides solid arguments contrary to your beliefs you cry in the same fashion as "your enemy does" and about the exact same shit. 

That's hardly a rebuttal to race, just more wishful thinking. When will you people get it? Moralism and the moral high ground (Jews introduced it in academia -- if you want I'll elaborate on that too) cannot be used to establish facts. It's an obvious bias.

I'm not "rebutting" race, cockbrain. And please don't bring Moralism into this as if you're deferring to objectivity. I highly doubt you'd still feel the way you do now if you were not white.

Well your stance is: "I don't really care about anything you post, you might be right but you're wrong and it doesn't matter. You can't be serious."

Yeah, I thought the fact that I'm basically trolling you would've been obvious from the start.

Also don't deny you're not a leftist, the second sentence you made evoking White guilt utterly exposed your school of thought.

Everything you said in this sentence is why no one in their right mind takes your type seriously.

>>72
I might agree with you if I could figure out which parts in your post were quoting the previous poster and which parts were your own attribution.

>>72 = Jew who hates Whites having a racial identity.

>>73

The italics are the previous poster. My comments are normal text.

>>74

White who hates that race isn't at the center of everyone's identity. (I'm not a kike, by the way.)

The italics are the previous poster. My comments are normal text.

That's not how things work here.

I'm not a kike, by the way.
That's not how things work here, either.

>>76
>>77

"Work"? Wait, what? Where are we, again?

All right. I may contend that Blacks are a significant sociological group, and that scientific evidence may point to the fact that the mean brain size is less than the White mean, but the fact is that the same does not hold for individuals, and that it does not matter for any principles, because people should be treated upon their own individual ability rather than identification with groups. Moreover, the fact is that Blacks should be equal, so if there was any way to remedy their intelligence to uplift them to perform better in education, then that would be good.

Ok, but lets assume you own a farm, you have one pen where you raise white bulls who are known for their low aggresion levels, nonviolence and peaceful nature, sure everyonce in a while you get a bad bull, but in general they are good.

Now lets assume someone wants to sell you his collection of black bulls, known for their aggresive attitude, violence and mean temperament, sure not all black bulls are violent, but about 50% are. Would you buy these bulls and put them in the pen with the white bulls knowing that the black bulls would kill loads of white bulls, and lower the standards for the white bulls, the white bulls would stick to their side of the pen in total fear (self segregation) entirely defenseless as the black bulls come up kill and rape them.

No you would not! You would keep them seperated, one pen for the black bulls and one pen for the white bulls.