I like him, I think his/her insight on certain issues gives me a benchmark to determine what your average, yet rare, everyday critical thinker would consider when thinking about the particular issue.
I want to fuck him up the ass. So yeah I like him.
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Anonymous2007-08-18 18:33 ID:GBLrkKBQ
RedCream often reaches a valid conclusion to his arguments, but he usually does so in the sort of way that I can't follow. As a non-qualified plus, he is probably better-read than everyone else here. It's good to be able to discuss an issue with someone who obviously isn't some 16 year old kid who pulled some opinion out of his ass and naturally thinks it's objective truth.
Also, it seems like RedCream disappeared for a couple of days, and pretty much every post he's had since then has been golden.
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Anonymous2007-08-18 19:25 ID:TN7SjuoJ
All he does is parrot crap he read somewhere and acts all smug like he has uncoverred the truth until the argument is criticised at which point he starts spewing out batshit crazy bullshit that makes no fucking sense.
>>7
Why don't you just come out and admit that being well read is a liability in American culture?
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Anonymous2007-08-18 22:47 ID:3NbzMGe4
>>7
Typical response from a typical teenager. RedCream is sometimes smug because he knows that some of his beliefs are shared by people much smarter than him. These people, many of whom have/had doctorates, were able to articulate their beliefs using reason.
What about you? Of course, you've never picked up a book without a school teacher telling you to. You probably don't even know where your beliefs come from. Ever hear of John Stuart Mill? Of course not. Let me throw something at you: you aren't as smart as John Stuart Mill. Sorry, but that's the truth. He could articulate his viewpoints. He could argue a point to a level of truth only slightly inferior to that of the mathematical. You can't do that. So, when someone 'parrots' an argument from Mill or someone similar, that argument is superior to your "this is what I believe and if you don't agree you're a poopyhead".
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Anonymous2007-08-18 23:03 ID:S05b6D1J
RedCream is a genius and everything he says is right.
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yeh and that really sounds like somthing redcream would agre to? shit hes more democratic then antything.
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Anonymous2007-08-19 4:58 ID:UhN8YVTo
If you actually take the time to read the crap redcream posts in a certain thread, you'll soon find that he seldom stays to a point and leaps away to some hot-button issue as soon as it looks like he might be wrong. He doesn't want to be closer to the truth. He doesn't want to learn or to change people's minds.
He just wants you to pay attention to him.
Just another namefag... and I'm guessing, a middle child.
It would bother a lot of people if they knew I was an everyman, like most everyone else here on this board, and that it's possible to read a lot and think critically and not end up in some tabloid or news item. In fact, the opposite tends to happen ... since as I implied, honest intellectualism is a liability in America. Our colleges and institutions are filled with dishonest intellectuals toeing the party line, since if they didn't, they'd be expelled and have to fend for themselves ... like I do!
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Anonymous2007-08-19 8:32 ID:FhN+XjK6
i like him and hate him at the same time. Redcream get your ass back to /lounge/ i don't see you spamming truth enough.
I'm sure RedCream is a great person outside of politics...(hahaha) but even smart people can get blinded by ideology. (As much as he thinks he's an original thinker and beyond these silly little games)
Here is how ideology(and religion as well) work as opposed to logical thought.
Ideology (A)
Fact(A) is heard. Now... a few things may happen depending on their level of intelligence.
If the person is stupid (TYPE A) - They will repeat themselves and not offer any new argument. These individuals spout rhetoric and have no original thought (average person usually included in this)
Above average intelligence (TYPE B) - The individual will look at fact A and figure out a way for it to be wrong. They will either find a small piece of it that is unfounded in some way and then build off of that to make a contradictory fact that agrees with their brain. They may also just ignore and not process certain information in order to get an idea or fact to agree with their ideology and thus make sweeping generalized statements.
High intelligence (TYPE C) - These people create ideology and control dumber people with their ideas. They take fact A, and knowing individuals will eat up anything they identify with, will either make things up and repeat them until they are true, or spin the fact by leaving out key details. They profit off less intelligent people in some way or another (self satisfaction or material profit).
Unfortunately... ideology is a powerful thing. Everyone has one that they identify with regardless of what they say. People identify who they are with "their" ideas once they go through puberty (that or become an hero), and challenging those ideas challenges their sense of self.
His pompous attitude is merely a tool he uses to protect his little ideology. He often gets challenged with valid facts that are contradictory to his ideology (a week one at that), makes sweeping generalizations, and then reassures himself by acting pompous in order to reaffirm his identity. I would assume he is some sort of type A/B intelligence.
So... do I like RedCream? Like a democrat loves an illegal immigrant. I like arguing with easily manipulated morons. He's better off rooting for some baseball team rather than talking politics with adults.
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Anonymous2007-08-20 19:04 ID:0/y2NEb7
(TYPE O-) - These people attempt to win people over to their way of classifying people by creating bullshit on 4chan (more petentious person usually included in this).
Sadly, the best way to toss a "LordRiordan" into a tizzy is to be socially Liberal and fiscally Conservative (as I am). Minor aneurysms occur inside his overmind and then a lot of brain-damage-convoluted rhetoric gets emitted. Frequent claims are made of "parroting", but as long as it's the truth, that shouldn't matter. Other claims are made of "arrogance", but again, as long as what's said is true, that shouldn't matter either.
In effect, a "LordRiordan" type of mentality goes into an ad hominem overdrive once it encounters well reasoned arguments against whatever of its sacred cows it holds most dear at the moment. After that, it's all a matter of killing the messenger than ever dealing with the facts of the matter. People really follow along, too, since ad hominem actions tend to be a lot more fun than dry exposures of facts and figures of what the topic should have been.
Hate to break it to you RedCream, but I fuck on the first date and pinch my pennies too; however, I am a traditional Conservative in the way that I don't like government and would like it smaller. Socialism, self hatred, and pacifism are things I cannot stand for.
I'm sorry that you can't deal with not having original thoughts. Your arguments aren't well reasoned... they are self destructive and ineffective.
>>25 FAIL. This thread is about me, and by extension people who talk about me. Go on other threads with actual topics if you can't handle that, you prancing nancyboy.
>>26 Bullshit. Pick one argument point I've made and debate it. Elsewise, you're just blowing smoke like the other gayfaggors here who pretend to have debate skill.
And finally, you want a smaller government, and you can't stand pacifism. Those don't add up. Your kind REQUIRES a huge and intrusive government in order to enact your warfreak tendencies. That's why we have a Faux Conservative in the White House who presides over the largest federal government ever devised. You're no more a social Conservative then that fucko is.
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LordRiordan2007-08-21 0:08 ID:zN5tw6/S
Well, for one, you can simply not have the government involved in everyone's personal lives while spending more budget on military.
That seems pretty simple.. I'm debating you in other topics... so why pretend like I'm not? I'm giving you half ass responses because I'm off to a party to go drink and fuck =)
I don't like cameras... I don't like nanny laws... and I don't like money redistribution. I've dedicated my life to healing others... that means I can't punch someone in the mouth before they punch me?
Pacifism is a fairytale... it cannot exist. Its beyond most humans abilities... and because you and I live in a world with most other people, pacifism therefor does not work.
Enjoy your night nerd =p
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LordRiordan2007-08-21 0:10 ID:zN5tw6/S
Oh... did you know that Zero gravity decreases bone density? It's pretty cool.
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STFU yourself. The real RedCream (i.e. me) knows how to use BBCode.
>>28
Your fiscal conservatism makes you a good neighbor. Your social militancy means you'll never receive an invitation for dinner. I can live with that.
Also, being anti-war is not pacifism. I stand ready to defend myself, and by doing so, lethal force can only be assumed. However, that doesn't mean slipping into some camo and attacking Iraqis who are no threat to me and with whom I have no quarrel. The same goes for Iran, which has every right to seek to develop nuclear technology (and hopefully it gets a nuclear weapon soon, since the West is always looking to invade). Your militancy doesn't allow you to admit that being in a community of nations means EQUALITY, not SUPREMACY.
Once some Iraqi makes it to the American shore to start some shit, I'll put him down with a .308 rifle bullet. That's the proper use of self defense.
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LordRiordan2007-08-21 14:53 ID:zN5tw6/S
What I don't understand is why you think its ok to get nuked. Wanting to be vaporized by a nuclear bomb simply because you don't agree with your country's stance on policy (or can't handle it evidently) is a little crazy.
You should seek some help.
So long as there is more than one nation, supremacy will always be the issue. No politician wants equality... these are greedy people. You have to think within the confines of how the world works, and not how you would like it to work.
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The keeping of weapons cannot be denied to the rest of the world without invoking Imperial practices, which themselves only enhance the chances of getting nuked. You live in a society where people around you are armed, and you seem perfectly fine with the chance that one of those guys can come up behind you and blow your head off. Get a sense of perspective; the USA can't rule the world, and in fact nobody can. Your gyrations on this matter are only making things worse, policy wise.
Once the USA learns to take it's place in the COMMUNITY OF NATIONS, at least this current flirtation with world war will stop. The only place where "first among equals" fits is in a small book by Orwell.
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Anonymous2007-08-21 15:33 ID:zN5tw6/S
That would be a fine theory if that's what everyone else wanted.