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Old Lady Defends Herself

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-03 21:17

I recently heard this story in the news of an old lady who used a shotgun to attempt to defend herself when her home was broken into forcibly.  The old lady was in her 90's.

Guess what? It was the police.  Police had obtained a legal 'no-knock' warrant, and broke down the door without warning.  The old lady then opened fire with her gun, wounding three of the intruders before being murdered herself.

The 'no-knock' search warrant was issued because it was suspected there was drug activity in the house. 

What do you newpol folks have to say about 'no-knock' search warrants, the drug war, and or this story in general?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-03 21:22

No knock search warrants will more than likely get you shot.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-03 21:23

Good.  Shoot the pigs.  You break into someone's home without warning, storming in all of a sudden, you should expect to be shot.  People should be free to use drugs anyways, and the government/police were TOTALLY in the wrong to be breaking in without any warning whatsoever anyway.  I can imagine some sick-ass fuck politician saying that now we need to ban guns so that they can get away with this kind of shit without worrying about getting shot. 

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-03 21:30

no knock?
wtf,she was probably scared

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-03 21:34

>>1
God damn cops going way too far. Should be shot for shooting an old lady. Too bad they didn't die from their wounds.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-03 21:40

When these become commonplace, burglars will just dress up in fake police uniforms and rob your house while you watch.

Name: LordRiordan 2007-01-03 21:45

If the cops did it by suprize why the fuck did the old lady have enough time to ready a shotgun? Old lady is prolly a piece of shit that needed to die years ago.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-03 21:47

lol wow, i can imagine the civil libertarians going nuts over this one.  I can already imagine their whining...

"wahhh what about our rights?!!"

All I've got to say is, what about the rights of the police? What about the rights of the government? The government is seriously out there doing things like this to keep us safe, idk what your problem is. 

You know, this is the problem with america.  Too many faggots don't support the efforts of our law enforcement.  Maybe if america was more like other countries in the world and cooperated with law enforcement instead of shooting them like the gun-nut fucks they are, we would have a lower murder rate.

This is just like 9/11 and the whole anti-patriot act anti-torture shinanegans.  We were attacked on 9/11, and as expected, when the government enacts reasonable legislation to protect the country from terror, the nuttoes in the ACLU and the libertarian party go berserk.

You know, what if we didn't have the patriot act? How many more people would have died from terror attacks? How can you moldy hunks of dick cheese manage to live with yourselves, bitching about shit like this while these police put their lives on the line to protect you?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-03 22:00

>>8 You have some serious state-worship issues.

>>7  Because some people, believe it or not, keep loaded & ready guns on hand to fend off intruders in emergencies.  (Wow, wierd concept, right? Who ever thought of keeping a gun around for self-protection in an emergency.)

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-03 22:01

>>8
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security
-- Ben Franklin

We shouldn't slip into a Authoritarian State
9/11 is weak statement, because everyday I feel more that the government did it for the pure purpose of getting more power.

Also, I don't fear death and give up my life so I can live a couple more years.

Name: LordRiordan 2007-01-03 22:11

9:

yea, especially 90yr old feeble wemon with SHOTGUNS suspected for illicit drug activity. In order for a no knock warrent there had to be damn good reason which meant that old fucking bag deserved to die. Think about it, she had time to wound THREE officers which is an accomplishment with one shot. Theres more to this story, fuck this old woman... hope she rots in hell.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-03 22:12

>>10
We need more people like you. True patriots who are for true free America. Goverment lovers who dare to call themselves patriots deserve death.

Name: LordRiordan 2007-01-03 22:13

Sorry 10 and 12(especially), you are faggots for not being able to see that there is more to this story.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-03 22:24


>>8

"All I've got to say is, what about the rights of the police?"

What about them? The police shouldn't have the right to just fucking kick in people's door without warning because they suspect people have drugs.  Moreover, drugs should be legal anyways.

"What about the rights of the government?"

What about the rights of the individual? The 'government' is not a person, but a group of person's.  I don't consider it a right to violate the rights of others.  Rights are for individuals, not groups.  The only time it is ok for a government to violate the rights of individuals in a society is when it is absolutely necessary for the protection of the society and the preservation of overall freedom.  An example of this is that it is necessary that we tax the populous a little to provide for the common defense of the nation. 

"The government is seriously out there doing things like this to keep us safe, idk what your problem is."

Thousands of americans have died fighting for the liberties you government security fetishist scum take for granted daily while you sit here and call those who are grateful for those freedom 'faggots' and 'moldy hunks of dick cheese', and saying police are in the right breaking into people's homes with no warning whatever.  THAT is my problem, idiot.

"You know, this is the problem with america.  Too many faggots don't support the efforts of our law enforcement.  Maybe if america was more like other countries in the world and cooperated with law enforcement instead of shooting them like the gun-nut fucks they are, we would have a lower murder rate."

If you fucking love the rest of the world, you are free to move there.  Please, PLEASE don't destroy the freedoms of everyone else in the USA because you just don't feel like leaving.  There are plenty of other nations in the world who have despotic conditions and are seriously lacking in the liberty department that you can move to.  Enjoy your high taxes, lack of civil liberties, and big brother.

"This is just like 9/11 and the whole anti-patriot act anti-torture shinanegans.  We were attacked on 9/11, and as expected, when the government enacts reasonable legislation to protect the country from terror, the nuttoes in the ACLU and the libertarian party go berserk."

I wonder if you are aware that we have lost more lives resulting from your beloved 'war on terror' than we lost initially in the 9/11 attacks. 
http://www.lp.org/media/article_452.shtml

But hey, lets not let inconvenient little things like facts get in the way of your moral crusade to save the world, right?

"You know, what if we didn't have the patriot act?"

We would have far more protection from bullshit of similar kinds that happened in >>1's story, and we would be only slightly less secure because of it.  Thanks to you patriot act supporters, we have tossed out an important part of the bill of rights and our freedoms, for only a slight increase in security so that you paranoid bitches don't have to feel all scared.  Gee, thanks.

"How many more people would have died from terror attacks?"

I'm betting on none, but even if a few more did, it would not be justified in denying essential civil liberties and privacy rights to an entire nation for the preservation of the lives of a minority.

"How can you moldy hunks of dick cheese manage to live with yourselves, bitching about shit like this while these police put their lives on the line to protect you?"

How can pieces of shit like you manage to live with yourselves considering all the thousands of americans (like the founders and the original american revolutionaries) who put their lives on the line & fought and died for freedom while you sit there and piss it away because you are frightened like a little pussy?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-03 22:25

>>11
yes i get it
theres more to this story- we dont know what- maybe there was a reason she had time to prep, maybe she really was guilty of something, or maybe she was just a malevolent old crone.

but, you know what? we dont know.


oh whats that? yeah fuck her, hope she rots in hell.
fuck her. hope she rots in hell.

doesnt matter what we dont know. got shot by the cops after a raid that didnt yield shit, and you hope she rots in hell.


fucking troll.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-03 22:30

>>11
"yea, especially 90yr old feeble wemon with SHOTGUNS suspected for illicit drug activity."

Not shotGUNS, shotGUN.  Just one.  Where the fuck are you from? Owning a shotgun for home/personal defense is pretty common in the USA. 

"In order for a no knock warrent there had to be damn good reason which meant that old fucking bag deserved to die."

The governments assault on this woman didn't yield one drop of illegal drugs, which was the entire reason for going in (they suspected there were drugs in the house).  Nice try.

"Think about it, she had time to wound THREE officers which is an accomplishment with one shot. Theres more to this story, fuck this old woman... hope she rots in hell."

Firstly, it is not near as unlikely as you are making it out to seem, and secondly, nobody said she only fired a single shot.  Nobody said she fired more than one shot, either though.  You are making assumptions.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-03 22:59

I am >>1, and I forgot to mention something:  NO ILLEGAL DRUGS OR EVIDENCE OF ILLEGAL DRUGS WERE FOUND IN THE HOUSE FOLLOWING THE SEARCH.

Name: LordRiordan 2007-01-04 16:51

Sorry, but this fails for not making enough sense. Theres shit you are leaving out. Why don't you provide proof of the warrent butt fuck, seeing as its public record, it should be easy to find.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-07 3:43

>>18
"Sorry, but this fails for not making enough sense."

Explain what doesn't make sense.  It makes perfect sense to me.  Police officers raided a woman's home without knocking.  The woman likely thought they were illegal intruders or criminals, and acted in what she believed to be self-defense.  The police then shot her acting in self-defense. 

Just another sad story to add to the piles upon piles of ills resultant from our 'war on drugs'.

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