>>163 "So basically, what you are saying, is that even though I'm right, I should just pipe down, since things are SOOOO hard for women already, right?" You are not right on child care. Half a kid is alwayd belonging to a man, and women are usually the ones that get the bum deal when it comes to kids.
"Comedy gold. I agree btw. The feminists are fucked up." Oh yes, class. The evangelicals are fucked up too, but they are not dangerous in the slightest, oh no.
>>165 Because they are stuck in a pragmatic, selfish and anti-feminist position.
>>168 Prove it. Letting bad eggs spoil the fun for everyone is dumb. "All women who get abortions are bad eggs!" I took it for granted I would hear something like this is in a retort so I answered it precognitively. Women want's to have sex. Women like to get drunk. So why should they have suffer so many indignities because they are the chalice and men are the springs?
>>171 Phew, some respite from the avalanche of gall being thrown here.
>>172 "Prohibitly expensive" Teenage pregnancies are usually more common in poor neighbourhoods, were boys will be boys, girls are invisible and non-heterosexuals inspire pitchfork mobs. Who get to pay for abortions and cleaning up the mess the white-trash makes for itself? The richer, left-wing states who pay more taxes to Washington than they get back for funding at the end of the year.
"I'm not shouting "murder" at the top of my lungs" You are doing the equivalent. "Whose body is it? The woman's. Thus, it is her responsibility to care for it, not his." And she also provided all the genetic material of the baby, and the government will take care off her once she's given birth to it.
"The proper role of government is to protect life, liberty, and property. In protecting the individual, the state is performing one of its proper roles." Here we have a libertarian principle, which could trample me. I mean, abortions, by your definition, are not victimless crimes. But, whose liberty should we protect? Hers or its? The actuality or the potentiality? Plus, a society that isn't ready to work on the factors that cause unwanted pregnancies doesn't deserve to ban it outright.