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"It has everything to do with the fact that she can't reproduce on her own. The man is engaging in a sex where he knows that a baby might be the result."
The baby grows out of her body, not his. It is her body, and thus her responsibility to care for it, not the man's. If she doesn't want to have a baby, that's just fine. Use birth control, and the problem is solved. It's readilly availible just about everywhere, and not prohibitively expensive.
"The instances where it's just the woman's decision are VERY fucking rare."
Whose body is it? The woman's. Thus it is her say. The male can't just have her detained and have an abortion ordered on her, LOL. The bottom line is she consents to an abortion before it's done. Why does this matter, anyhow? It has absolutely nothing to do with the original question: should abortion be allowed, should it be regulated, or should it be not allowed at all?
"Why this is so hard for you to understand, probably has to do with your lack of understanding when it comes to male/female relationships."
Yay for personal insults in arguments.
"Just a hunch. Result: Abortion is taking responsibility, the only people who don't see this are the one shouting "murder! murder!" at the top of their lungs."
I'm not shouting "murder" at the top of my lungs, and abortion sure as hell is not taking responsibility for your actions. Taking responsibility for your actions would be using birth control in the first place so an abortion is not necessary to begin with.
"I understand that aspect of it, I just ALSO understand that the same shit applies to male as well."
Whose body is it? The woman's. Thus, it is her responsibility to care for it, not his.
"#1 This doesn't prove that that abortion negatively effects society's stability."
The proper role of government is to protect life, liberty, and property. In protecting the individual, the state is performing one of its proper roles.
"#2 Protection is posession, when it's unwilling or unconsented."
So because the government protects me from criminals, it possesses me?