Abortion and Women's Rights

Abortion has nothing to do with women's rights.  Murder is not a right. 

FROM NOW ON ALL ABORTION TOPICS GO IN THIS THREAD.

It has nothing to do with the fact that she can't reproduce on her own.  She's engaging in intercourse with another person, and she knows that if she doesn't handle the birth control, that she may end up getting pregnant.  It's her body, she should care for it, period.  It's not the man's responsibility to do shit.  If she wants a condom on the man, she needs to make sure it's on there.  If she doesn't want to have a baby, then she should use birth control instead of "risking it" and having an abortion if she happens to get pregnant.

It has everything to do with the fact that she can't reproduce on her own. The man is engaging in a sex where he knows that a baby might be the result. It's a two way street and generally speaking Abortion is a TWO-WAY decision. The instances where it's just the woman's decision are VERY fucking rare. Why this is so hard for you to understand, probably has to do with your lack of understanding when it comes to male/female relationships. Just a hunch. Result: Abortion is taking responsibility, the only people who don't see this are the one shouting "murder! murder!" at the top of their lungs.

"I think it's you who can't be reasoned with, and this seems pretty evident from the fact that you simply can't come to terms with the fact that when the woman is engaging in sex with another person, she is taking some risks, and it's her body she's risking.  It is her responsibility to care for that body, and to prevent from becoming pregnant if she doesn't want a child.  Birth control is not prohibitavely expensive, and it is readilly availible just about anywhere.  Abortion is almost always unnecessary.

I understand that aspect of it, I just ALSO understand that the same shit applies to male as well. The people who don't understand this are people who come from cultures that support superfluous reproduction, gut-thinking instead of brain-thinking,

"Fail. All you have to do is prove to me that abortion directly effects the stability of society. You don't need my stance to support yours, if what you say is the unadultered truth. I don't even really care about over-population, I care about liberty and human lives not being owned by the state (unborn or not)."

In making abortion illegal, the state is acting as another being's protector, not taking posession of its body.

#1 This doesn't prove that that abortion negatively effects society's stability.

#2 Protection is posession, when it's unwilling or unconsented.