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Does islam spawn terror??

Name: Cchan 2006-06-05 22:36

I realize there is a chance for extremism in any religion, but is it just my imagination or are most terrorists muslim? If there is such a discrepancy between terrorists who are from other religions and those of islam then isnt it obvious that there is something in that religion that is causing it to happen and its not just some bad people that are apart the religion but something that is within the religion and taught to the people (im asking cuz i dont know much bout islam)? I am asking this not to flame on muslims, i am looking for legitimate answers that are not just flaming. also if the number of terrorists who are muslim is not exponentially higher then id also like to know what the numbers are.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-06 0:53

yes it does, also in direct violation of the spirit of your post ISLAM SUCKS lol

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-06 1:15

        Any religion can spawn murder, terror, and violence, and most have as well.  However if is often the case that these are the result of the warping of the religion in order to benifit the organization in power of it.  For insance when the Catholic church started the crusades, witchhunts, and inquisitions, this was a warping of the teaching of christ.  While the first testimate advocated violence in some forms it didn't always, and Christ advocated violence never.  Islam however is the only modern widespread religon(these being Catholisism/christianity/anything involving christ at all, Jewdism, Hinduism, Islam, and Budism)  Hinduism I am far from an expert on so I will leave that up to others to say whether or not it adovates violence, but I don't recal it doing so to any great degree.  Budism absolutely advocates peace in almost every form (various warrior classes were actually considered cursed by them.  For insance the Samuri was a killer, directly against the teaching of Buda.  Their punisment was to be reincarnated in the next life as a Samuai yet again in a never ending cycle. And the WWII samurai Mentality propaganda was a complete warp of this code anyways).  Jewdiasm has a mix of violence and not putting up with shit, but I don't belive it often advocated aboslute force except for in defence of you and your's("thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" is actually a mistranslation of the origional text reading "thou shalt not suffer a prisioner to live" stemming from the fact that prisioners, and POWs especially were not treated well at this time, and the truly faithful would not continue his suffering but send him to god for his fate to be decided.  Islam is outright the most violent, With the Koran outright advocating extreem violence against the unbeliever and the Infidel.  The old testimant prettly much says and implies that God will take care of them himself.  the Koran says to kill them all.  Jesus actually on several instances said that the unbeliever who finds true faith will still get to heaven.  Budism doesn't give a damn what your religion is not having a God in it at all.  Now this doesnn't coenside with how many muslims believe, in much the same way not everyone who had faith in christ believed in the peace he preached.  However that doesn't stop the book from saying what it does.  True I haven't read all of the Koran, just a few pages here and there, but I haven't read all of either testimate either, or any religios manual of budism(not sure there is one) I don't bash any religion being agnostic myself, and am not trying to be impartial here.  All religions have potential for great tragedies, massacares, and terror to be inspired by them, Islam tends to exceed the potential of others.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-06 2:50

SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-06 2:51

LMAO, ZERG RUSH KEKEKEKE

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-06 14:25

>>3

Every religion *will* spawn murder and violence. By proxy if need be.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-07 15:13

Islam:  We're a Religion of Peace and we'll kill you to prove it.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-07 18:42

>>7 i lawled

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-07 20:42

Religion doesn't cause murder, it simply doesn't stop it. If there was a solution that prevented all crime that would be great, but religion clearly isn't it.

As you can see my argument is simply the logical truth and not part of the religion vs anti-religion game.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-08 3:25

umm, well this thread wasnt very religion vs. anti religion to begin with sooooo..... how bout you fail. also if you think religion doesnt cause murder then type "september 11" into google

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-08 3:46

   Religion is a motivating force of murder and other violence, so are coutless other things.  Stop trying to blame the religion and just blame (a)the murderer (b)the psychopath leading the religious group.  Religion is used just as much to bind a group of people together as it is to tear them apart.  Religion has caused murder and violence thoughout history, and it probably will in the future.  stop trying to pretend that without religion we would never kill eachother though.  We are a violent group of animals, and as there are more and more of us on the planet, murders and other violence will only become more common.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-08 9:02 (sage)

all muslims need to die.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-09 19:14

BEHEAD
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ISLAM
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violent

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-09 22:42

>>13
lol, beheading is violent, so that makes u violent

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-10 0:19

lol i think that was the point

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-10 1:27

what abt christian extremists

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-10 1:34

what about them?...When was the last time they did anything big?  I guess you could say the holocaust was somewhat christian motivated, but Hitler was acually an athiest by the time he got really into it.  So when was the last time christians started a holy war against another race?  and more important how many of them that did are alive to punish today?  Most of the serios crimes they did were over generations ago.  and if they happen again those people should be taken care of as well.  I am not saying kill all muslims, just the ones that order people to fly planes into buildings, and anyone protecting them and offering them safe harbor.  I am not defending what Christian extreemists have done in the past, but that was individuals in the past, and those people are well out of our range of punishment.  Those extreemists in the Middle east are well within shooting distance.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-10 2:18

Well I believe that part of Islam's violence is due to the media coverage of the more exciting events that happen in the region, namely the terrorism. Since that's what most of the world sees, that's what we believe is happening in the area.

Also, some of the leaders, religious or not, are taking advantage of a socioeconomically displaced class of people and giving them something to do. It's easy to blame your poverty and loss of political power on those who have wealth and influence (America). I honestly don't have a clue about Islam other than what the media tells me but what I do know is that Islam doesn't promote terrorism (which is not to be confused with violence).

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-10 2:49

>>18

IT DOESN'T?!

Qur’an 3:150 "Soon We shall strike terror into the hearts of the Infidels, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be in the Fire!"

Qur’an 7:3 "Little do you remember My warning. How many towns have We destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our punishment overtook them."

Qur’an 8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Qur’an 8:57 "If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned."

Qur’an 8:67 "It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land."

Qur’an 33:26 "Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before."

and so on

LOL

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-10 3:37

Mohamet was a terrorist who started a religion of terrorism

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-10 4:07

>>19
Open to interpretation, like the 6th commandment. The old testament is full of tales of god torturing and killing to prove points to satan etc etc.. It seems god learns in the end and jesus is like completely pacifist, so maybe you have a point.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-10 5:03

>>21

It isn't open to interpretation. Unlike christians, muslims believe (as it is written in the quran) that the quran is the direct, literal word of god. How COULD it be open to interpretation at all anyway? It's the BIOGRAPHY of mohammed. Let me rephrase that

THEY ACTUALLY DID THOSE THINGS. UNLIKE THE TESTAMENT WHICH IS A FAIRY TALE. MOHAMMED ACTUALLY WENT AROUND KILLING PEOPLE, RAPING WOMEN, PILLAGING, POISONING WELLS (might not seem like much, but remember that it was a fucking desert), AND OTHER ASSORTED HORRIBLE THINGS.

and here's another tidbid! the quran says that mohammed was the perfect man and that every muslim should aspire to be like him. CAN YOU SEE HOW THIS MIGHT BE CONNECTED WITH TODAY'S TERRORISM, WHICH IS AN EXCLUSIVELY MUSLIM ACTIVITY?

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-10 15:50

in the koran it also states that mohammed is not perfect and that he is sinful. Sounds like the bastard couldnt make up his mind about what was what. Too bad his editors sucked.

Name: Hyarion 2006-06-10 18:00

>>22
Terrorism is an exlusivly muslim activity? Under what rock have you been living? ...er, whould it happen to be called the amerikan media? Yea, you fail; open your eyes.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-10 18:45

>>24
Sure, islam is sort of like the medieval catholic church or crazy sects and occasionally people misinterpret or intentionally misinterpret the bible in order to commit crime. However their interpretations were seriously warped and the bible does not contain any declarations to burn people alive or spread christianity through the sword, the new testament is absent of glorification of violence and the only act of violence in the old testament were acts of god or david killing goliath. The Koran on the other hand is jam packed with justification of violence.

"Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before."

Consider 2 nations. One of them is institutionally non-racist and another is institutionally racist. Both nations will have racists, you can't completely eliminate racism, but it will be a lot less likely for a person to discriminate against someone in the institutionally non-racist nation. Thinking there is no difference between these 2 nations is like thinking there is no difference between islam and other religions.

According the Islam satan is and exist in all those who, by their freewill, have opted to live a life of evil and transgression. Since the justification to rape and pillage in the koran is intrinsically evil, Islam IS a religion which worships satan and the propogation of evil through mistaken rightseousness. It's written in the koran, so I am in fact being tolerant and understanding of islam and islamic culture by revealing this.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-11 2:52

>>24
LOL. there have been around 5000 documented terrorist attacks by muslims since 9/11. everybody else fails in comparison.

muslims are dumb animals who can only express themselves with terrorism

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-11 2:53

5125 i think was the last count

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-11 3:11

>>27

Don't believe me? Scroll down at http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-11 13:54

no i do believe you

Name: Sage Killer 2006-06-11 16:41

>>28
Don't come with the fucking religion 'cause this is no excuse, fucker! A human is smart enough to use it's fucking brain!

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