Bob's Mantra

What do you guys think about Bob Whitaker and his radio shows?

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BOB'S MANTRA
"Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries."


"The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them."


"Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to "assimilate," i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites."


"What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?"


"How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?"


"And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn't object to this?"


"But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews."


"They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white."


"Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white."
 

Bob Whitaker
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http://www.whitakeronline.org/
http://www.whitakeronline.org/townhall.htm

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Discuss..

In my opinion, one of the true geniuses of our age.

>>120
To add to this, your reasons for even wanting this unified society are fallacious in the first place.  You always point out how "vigorous" or "powerful" multi-cultural societies are, yet does this constitute a pleasant experience in all the underlying cultures?  The Persians were highly successful empire builders, and yet I wouldn't want to live under their rule anymore than I'd want to live in Saudi Arabia right now. 

To address the "Nothing we say can logically be disagreed with," point, what the fuck are you on?  Even the most logical and rational people in the world, scientists, disagree at almost every turn, and what's more, this is constructive!  The empirical world doesn't care for the whims of man, to impose what he believes rational on it.  This is why it takes so many scientists to figure out the truth; many of them are wrong, one or two are right, and when they are proven that way, everyone (at least eventually) abandons their wrong paths and follows with the right ones.

But Science under your rule would more resemble Lysenkoism than science itself; rules chosen before being proven, and anyone who shows a dissenting view would be terminated for being wrong.

Hey, maybe you'll stop clitorectomys and fucking virgins to get rid of aids, but really, that shit'll stop eventually anyway.

To reenumerate my points, your movement:

-> Is biased at best
-> Solves nothing
-> Eliminates disagreement as an acceptable state (though disagreement has been shown to be positive)

I think I may have missed one, but that's basically it.

oh yeah

-> Makes no sense on an individual level.  (Why do you want to live in a "Powerful" civilization?  Why not a "comfortable" or even, "enjoyable" one?)

>>117 It was. Read your history. The idea of "white blood" or "british blood" is really represented by values and similar skin tone. Surface shit. Do you really think Gingers were considered the same as Aryans with blue eyes and blonde hair? Get real.

You're mistaking biological diversity for cultural diversity. 

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>>121

It doesn't eliminate all disagreement, just disagreement that isn't based on rationale, facts, absolute truth, etc. Just "feeling" something is wrong isn't going to fucking cut it.

>>120

Stop jumping to conclusions. The shit is annoying. We're not talking about replacing entire cultures. We're talking about a world synergy that is already taking place.

>>121

If your culture is outdated and inferior, then it's inferior. For some reason it's ok to address the possibly that, for instance, fundamental islamo culture is inferior to our modern culture...but when we start talking about possible inferiorites of cultures that hit close to your home- you can't take it and start shouting about what we may or may not think is inferior.

What does and doesn't work will be made obvious.

Why do you insist on arguing against the type of multi-cultural society that we oppose is beyond me. You're arguing past the debate into your own personal beliefs on multi-culturalism. We're not talking about that multi-culturism. We're talking about one that works.

"You're just trying to rule the world" isn't a rational response. Again, I ask: "So what if we are? What if we're right and you're wrong, huh? What then?"

>>127 [i]For some reason it's ok to address the possibly that, for instance, fundamental islamo culture is inferior to our modern culture...but when we start talking about possible inferiorites of cultures that hit close to your home- you can't take it and start shouting about what we may or may not think is inferior. [i]
Yes, islamo culture is inferior.  IT's true.  But that's only my opinion.  I can't decide what's right for a billion people any more than you can.  What makes this bearable is that they're slowly breaking out of it; just like we slowly broke out of our own cultural morass earlier.  As society develops, it tends to move towards greater human rights etc...  If they catch up to us or surpass us (which is possible, considering how history has tended to unfold E.G. randomly) they won't be any less Islamic, they won't neccesarily have taken our views into their culture.  They'll still have a valuable varied outlook on life.



What does and doesn't work will be made obvious.
Then let natural processes evolve for it.  My problem isn't with finding a system that works; it's with you deciding that you know what's best for all humanity.  No one should have the authority to make that decision because people are inherently biased.

>> We're talking about one that works.
Uh, OK, and this is any more proven then say, COMMUNISM was in the 1950s? 

>>  Why do you insist on arguing against the type of multi-cultural society that we oppose is beyond me.

You oppose all differences.  You want all people to be the same.  I don't see how that's any different from the multi-culturalism I'm talking about.

>> "So what if we are? What if we're right and you're wrong, huh? What then?"

This sounds like an argument a freshman in highschool would make.  You're acting as if there's one and only one solution to all the world's problems.  Maybe your solution will work, maybe it won't.  My bet is on the latter, because you refuse to take into account it's the differences between individuals and their backgrounds that enrich humanity, that give rise to the hybrid vigor of multiculturalism.  When you actively seek to cancel that out, you have monoculture, which as I've explained, is a bad thing.


>> "We're talking about a world synergy that is already taking place. "

If it's happening like this, and it isn't a movement of kooks, it's very different from what you're describing.  People still retain their own identity while taking in the ideas of other cultures.  The understand who they are and where they come from, while taking a practical approach and doing what works in other countries for their infrastructure etc...  They don't want to join some mass collective, because they still have some loyalty to their nation, or group.  We need those barriers to prevent use from becoming a monoculture, like I've said is a bad thing earlier.


You honestly, have failed to address almost every major point I've made; everything you write seems to be this cultist diatribe prefabricated in some brainwashing facility.  You haven't addressed my point about how you want to live in "powerful" societies regardless of living conditions, you haven't addressed the point about how it doesn't address the fundamental problem of human nature (E.G., we'll still fight).  

What this really seems to me to be is the arguments of people who have come from some of those "inferior" cultures.  They have gone to a western university, and just like the proletariats who fomented the communist revolution, they see what we have.  And they want it.  Rather than trying to build it themselves, they say "Give me yours." 

The one thing conservatwits don't seem to notice is yes, Islamic culture does work for a billion or so people. Simply because we do not face the same problems they do, we consider it inferior. Why? I would adore the opportunity to smack down all of America's uppity bitches without being hauled into court. But they do face the problem of not having religious freedom. So, you see, we'll never see eye to eye because their culture erradicates entirely problems ours has. No common ground. Also, unlike the apes, their culture retains a small inkling of math and science, remnants of their middle age legacy, so in the event they get a caliph or mullah who actually cares about their people and their being left behind in the technological race, they can explode from third to first world easily. The only thing keeping them down is a culture that derides pride in one's self, in the way the Puritans do.Try teaching the southern and western Africans the "white man's sciences." It just won't work.

>>128 We're not talking about that multi-culturism. We're talking about one that works.

It's never worked in all of recorded history, anywhere.

>>122 Why do you want to live in a "Powerful" civilization?  Why not a "comfortable" or even, "enjoyable" one?

Powerful cultures ARE comfortable and enjoyable.  If you doubt this, look around the Turd World.

The west's cultural superiority is entirely due to it's ability to accept criticism. Saying other cultures that execute or hurt people who disagree with them are inferior is not avoiding criticism, but criticism itself.

If there are any westerners who avoid criticism, then they are assholes, but they are very few in number and the act of criticism is not the act of avoiding criticism.

>>130

Just keep telling you're self that. PROTIP: You're living in one now.

Multi-culturalism has many good and many bad points, what we need to do is only allow the good bits and not let malicious people mix them up with the bad bits so they can inject bad into our culture. This can be done through criticism, which is why the west is superior as it allows criticism.

So by all means criticise multi-culturalism. Especially the fact that other cultures hate criticism, like those muslims, their culture is inferior as they do not accept criticism so bad people can inject bad ideas into their culture and kill anyone who doesn't like it.

>>133 You're living in one now.

I am aware.  And it doesn't work:

http://niggermania.com/niggerama/niggerama1/17468.jpg

I give the current order one more generation, maybe a bit longer, before the US, and possibly all of the large nations of the West, fall apart Yugoslavian-fashion and the race war that has been going on for forty years comes out into the open and the bloodletting begins in earnest.

>For god's sake, millions of jews died at the hands of "whitey" back in the 1940's

World jewish population in 1930 = 15 million people world wide.
in 1950 it was still around 15 million jews world wide.
Today the total jewish population 13 million.
Oh noes 1980's hololcaust

>>135

LOL Okay there, my fatalist friend. Not everyone is as warmongering as you.

>>135
Will Tricknology become a mainstream religion then?

>>138

Oh noes! The white man's tricknology!

>>138
sho
only a nigga with soul can say it like it is, dam whitey don't know shit, what has science ever done that us bros can't?

>>137
Because this is a thread on jews...for awhile there I thought that said "fagalist" and wondered why we were talking about circumcised gays.

>>141

This thread is not about Jews. It's about white people. Read the thread. Read Bob's Mantra.

>>142

I suspect that Jews will be assimilated into the white people just like the irish and the scotts were. Maybe they already have.

>>143

I don't see any reason to make this thread about the Jews, but Jews and white people aren't the same. Many Jews aren't ethnically Jewish, but Jew is a very confusing term and generally the rabbis like it this way. Basically, Judaism and Jewish culture is religious AND ethnic. It's a tribal religion. In many ways, it's a very developed form of extremely primitive culture. There is a race, the Jews. There is also the religion, the Jews. All the religion, however, serves the interest of the race. Someone with a Jewish mother is automatically Jew the race and unoffically inducted into Jew the religion. The religion is a crucial part of their heritage, and it has greatly influenced them. Judaism, and Jewish culture in general, is basically designed around who can come up with the best justification for the actions they feel like taking.

Truly idealistic Jews get the short end of the stick.

Jews don't assimilate. Jews have been around white people for two millenia. Some Jews have white blood, but it really doesn't matter. A great majority of them are actually almost totally semetic. How is this possible after living with white people for two millenia? 1. Their religion 2. Their xenophobia 3. Their supremacist ideology and mindset 4. Their disdain for ALL non-Jews 5. Their strong in-group loyalty 6. Their preference for charismatic leaders over reason

Do some research on the nastier parts of the talmud, http://www.come-and-hear.com/ is a good place to start.

If a Jew really wants to stop being a Jew, then I'm sure they could get into the white, or any other one, population. But, you have to keep in mind that many Jews believe that 1. They are chosen ones 2. The success of old-testament derived religions is a validation of their beliefs (when ironically THEY are as much a derived belief as Christianity, for instance) 3. The Jews are persecuted whereever they go and other Jews are the only people they can count on

(3. Is just one of the many examples of their primitive and backwards immaturity as a people.)

Some people will convert, but most will not. Most Jews simply don't have the IQ to step out of the trap of Jewish race and Judaism, to realize the nature of the trap. Most of the ones that DO, will still want the benefits of being Jewish, so they won't convert either.

Some famous Jew (can't remember his name) once remarked that after a couple of thousand years of being disliked, they must be doing something wrong. Well, Jews just seem to get more and more immature as a people all the time. They can't let go of their paranoia, supremacism, and fear of the unknown or uncontrollable. Oh the fond memories, listening to some guy on Aish.com talk about how the whole word hates the Jews, like those two 'evil' harvard professors that said that Jewish interest and Israel through AIPAC control the foreign policy of the United States.

I grew up in a non-observant Jewish household and I'm part white. I firmly oppose Jews whereever they go. Some of the pure insanity I have to deal with from my more observant relatives just blew my mind. Look, there are plenty out there that are some sort of supremacist. Heck, to be quite honest, being a supremacist isn't that bad of a thing if they aren't paranoid. I'm not bothered by somebody thinking they are better than me. Let em', if it makes them feel good more power to them. But, all of the Jewish supremacists I have met, and met personally, are freaking paranoid. They spend ALL day blaming everybody else for their problems, and I've heard a couple talk about how everbody hates the jews and that there 'is something wrong with the world and we've got to change it.' Look, when somebody says something like that, it's a declaration of control. Everybody else is wrong, and they are right. And, because they THINK that they are right, they can go dictating to everybody else what they should do. It's a statement of world control. Most Jews I have the absolute wierdest mindset. The accept emotionally their own superiority and the justification for any horrible action based on that feeling of superiority. They vehemently deny being control-minded supremacists and then spend all their time trying to figure out how to control other people based on their supremacist ideology or justifying that supremacism and control. Suddenly, famous people that absolutely LOATHED the Jews, are now Jews or practically Jewish, in order to justify their mindset. To somebody that grew up reading philosophy, it just boggles my mind, the pure hypocrisy. They absolutely have to convince themselves, and here's the evil part, and OTHERS that they are superior to everyone else, and everyone else is absolute evil and trash. Then, they spend the rest of their time moaning about how everybody else it mistreating/controlling and everybody else is evil and supremacist. It doesn't even pop into their head that THEY are the problem. David Duke http://www.davidduke.com/ no doubt is something of a white supremacist. But, he's a white supremacist (and ironically white supremacists have some of the best arguments considering we're sitting in nations using 'the white man's tricknology') in the way that most people are a supremacist for their nation. National supremacists don't use their 'supremacism' to justify conquering the world. They use it to justify the CONTINUED EXISTENCE OF THEIR NATION. In the same way, most white supremacists use their supremacism to JUSTIFY THE CONTINUED EXISTENCE OF THEIR RACE. David Duke says that all races have a right to their own living space and the right to control their own destiny. Jewish supremacists use their supremacism to JUSTIFY TAKING OVER EVERYTHING THEY DON'T TRUST, WHICH IS EVERYTHING. Of course, they don't SAY it that way, but they say it indirectly; for instance, the little argument:

1.All non-Jews are untrustworthy
2.Jews are unilaterally hated everywhere, and for no good reason, NOT any logical reason. Oh no.
3. The non-Jews aren't even qualified to manage themselves. The Jews should manage them as well, for the good of the Jews and for the good of the non-Jews.
4. In order to control opposition to the Jews, the Jews have to control everything, and I mean EVERYTHING.

Somebody on this forum once said that Jews are a train-wreck waiting to happen. Jews ARE a train-wreck waiting to happen. Jews keep on getting kicked out of countries? Why.

Because They Will Simply Not Leave Anything Alone.

If you have a scab, don't pick at it. Jews live in countries where they are living on the generosity of that people. The Jews have to work up an incredible disdain (moral disdain) and xenophobia of that people in order to STAY Jews and not assimilate. Eventually, these feelings work into the Jews passively, indirectly, and then directly opposing the interests of that people and nation. Then that people and nation get pissed off at them. I don't think that the 'holocaust' is anything but a dramatized figment of Jewish imagination, but one day there is really going to be a holocaust of the Jews. And I mean a complete genocide. And no, it isn't 'everybody elses' fault. It's the fault of the JEWS. It's Jewish nature and culture and habit and religion rolled all into one. Chosing in-group loyalty means that you aren't going to be liked by other peoples. Living in their midst and being loyal to another people is pretty much equivalent to treason. Eventually, after a number of years, the people get fed up with you. Eventually the Jewish dream of 'everybody against the Jews' isn't going to just be a product of their paranoia. It's going to be REAL, and it is going to be the creation of the Jews, and the reasonable reaction of 'everybody else'. 

But, most Jews will cling to it with a religious, yes religious, tenacity. Even most non-observant ones. This stubborn inability to let go of loyalty to Jewish interests is everywhere in Jewish life. A Jewish multiculturalist wants multiculturalism for everywhere, but Israel. A Jewish communist wants a communism controled by the Jews, and is ok with inciting class warfare to 'end' class warfare between everybody BUT the Jews.

I'm off the Jewish mobile nuthouse. Thank goodness for me. I'm part of the smart and wise minority. The rest can continue their lemming-like trek off the cliff.

>>144
Oh come on...  Your race can't be all that bad, can they? (I'm a cracker). 

That post was a waste of fucking time.

When it comes to race- you supremacist, genocidist and seperatists might as well pack it in. There's far too little space on this planet to even entertain the idea of seperating all the races. Some people will always be very comfortable with fucking others of a different race; it happens out of social re-enforced taboo, it happens out of woman's defiance to allow men within their race the monopoly on their bodies and you know what? One day a black and a chinese or a mexican and a white or a japanese and a white just might fall in love. That's right I said it: Love. Trite, cheesy, cliche'? Yes, even a little gay. But LOVE and LUST persists againsts all of group-think and pathetic notions of "racial survival". We are a species of Hearts AND Minds.

You want to know why multiculturalism will reign supreme?

CHOICE.

You can even remove the taboo of fucking other people to try and curb the mystery of mating with another race- but when there's no taboo people are STILL going to do out of CHOICE and CHOICE ALONE.

People are going to pretty much do whatever the fuck they want to do either because everybody is doing it- or some bitter asshole is telling them not to. The human species looks like one that is moving rapidly away from constriction and the concept of "No." Everything is possible because we are everything. 

The Pack Mentality is breaks down the more human we become.

>>146

You're not a freaking multiculturalist. You're a freaking NO culturalist. In order to have a culture, you have to HAVE a group identity. Even when you want to be a no-culturalist like you, you're really trying to be a MONOculturalist where everybody is a NOculturalist.

One thing you've forgotten is that the pack mentality, the society, is the very BASIS of human behavior. Human beings are social animals, and social animals are PACK animals. If you aren't a pack animal, you're can't possibly BE human.

Pack mentality is one of the foundations of BEING human.

>>146
The jews did it.

>>146
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>>149
Yes, eat pork jewboy.

>>150
>>149
>>148

Here is the vicious irony. Only Jews would be interested in posting something like that.

>>147

Uhyeah...that's not going to stick sorry. I'm an ALL culturalist, in that it's very plain to see that in it's entire context a majority of the human culture remains more or less the same. There are differences that come up, but how different are they really? And it is impossible for cultures to intermingle and exchange like sperm and egg? The answer is NO.

The rest of your post is basically you shouting the opposing view point. Let me put it in different terms then: In order to get to the post-human stage of evolution Pack mentality will be seen for what it is- an attack on the individual. Pack mentality breaks down the more we stray that past that idea of these animalistic qualites as a part of being human.

>>128

I refer to address your so called "major points" because you're purposely trying to reframe my argument and thus: the debate itself. I am not anti-differences and any arugments against me in the vien of me being anti-difference is wrong. It's that simple.

>>153


refer = refuse*

And has it possibly crossed your mind that we are already apart of a bigger all-encompassing "human culture"?

>>154

in other words: we are already living in a mono-culture and have been for quite sometime

Pack mentality isn't an assault on the individual, as long as they are smart and understand what they're doing.  Pack mentality is bad when people are stupid enough to get riled up over things al la islam. 

Without this pack mentality, this ability to stick together, to belong somewhere, most humans, rather than standing up and trying to defend the society they're a part of, just scatter when things go wrong. This could mean an end to society as we know it; one of people who just wander around.

All this globalism stuff, the world as a village, sounds more like a method of control than anything else.  When you have a monoculture like that, who ever controls the main culture controls the world.  Then, we'll not have segmented packs where if something goes wrong in one it's still possible to find others that are willing to accept outsiders where things haven't gone quite so awry, we'll have global catastrophe.

However, this won't happen, because the true future is a cross between the two ideologies; people will bring values that work for other people into their culture, but without neccesarily destroying their own.  And if they don't have one to start with, they'll probably form their own, based on membership with a community. 

I'm not neccesarily for keeping all ancient groups intact, don't get me wrong, but one thing I'm DEFINATELY not for is a global monoculture.

>>155
Not neccesarily.  We don't listen to what the French prime minister says any more than they listen to us.  If they DID, then we'd have problems.  Orwellian type problems. 

But that's just not feasible.

>>157

You clearly don't understand what I'm talking about.

Look, here is something that white people seem to have forgotten. Being part of a pack gives you special rights within that pack. In fact, it gives you rights to members of that pack that members of OTHER packs don't have. This is not evil, it's simply how groups work.

I'm a member of my family. You aren't. I have special rights within my family afforded to me by family members that you don't have.

I'm also a member of the white race. As a member of the white race, I have rights given to me by members of the white race that members not of the white race don't have.

I'm not a member of the japanese race. Not being a member of the japanese race, I'm not given special rights based on membership of the japanese race provided by members of the japanese race.

I'm not a member of the Canadian nationality. Not being a member of the canadian nationality, I don't have special rights based on membership in the Canadian nationality afforded by members of the Canadian nationality.

I'm not a member of your family. Not being a member of your family, I don't have special rights based on membership in your family.

I'm a member of the human species. Being a member of the human species, I have special rights based on membership in the human species afforded to me by members of the human species.

Ok, we're all human beings. Ok. We're also many other things as well. What crackpot wants to say is that all the group membership except membership in the human race is wrong. It leads to conflict and people getting hurt. What crackpot doesn't also realize it that it leads to love, brotherhood, and comfort as well.

The world is not simple. Being human is not simple. Crackpot wants to simplify everything and say we all bleed red like any other mammal, so we shouldn't have group memberships that get in the way of an expidiently peaceful world.

It's time to grow up. Human life isn't something that likes being simplified. Human beings have bunches of loyalties, and this is the freaking nature of being human. Some loyalties are based on birth, some are based on relation, some are based on ritual, some are based on belief, and some are based on ideology.

We're not JUST part of the human group. We're MORE than just 'humans.' We're also white, asian, British, Chinese, communists, capitalists, seperatists, multiculturalists, invididualists, and collectivists. We're diverse, and the irony about your multiculturalism and multiracialism, is that it leads to MONOculturalism and MONOracialism, and is the penultimate end of diversity.

>>159
Well done.