I'm not a racist, but I am...

This forum is full of it, but it's all true. The facts are there. Maybe there is a little hyperbole, sure black people can become doctors, fly planes etc... I'm a reasonable human being, I was raised in a liberal environment. I have bullied before, but never been racist and I see bigotry as immature, however I can't escape the fact that they are indeed very unusual looking.

http://unicast.org/forums/forum.php?forum_id=1

"golly, niggers are hideous with their buck teeth, black skin and brillo heads. Egads."

Just do a google search for skull shapes of different races and albino black people... CAucasian and mongoloid skulls are about the same and both these races have obviously exceeded negrito races in culture and civilisation. Even the obscure native americans constructed early civilisations. Their hunter gatherers tribes only existed due to their isolation, deprived of the circumstnaces that allow for agrarian civilisation. Given another 1000 years after the SPanish arrived, and the Gulf of Mexico would be like the Mediteranean circa 1000 B.C..

Though I can't say the same for black civilisations, they were not isolated, theywere exposed to the Egyptians, who were arabic, im not one of these nuts who thinks they are white. I really am not a racist or even a far right conservative...

I can't contain what i think anymore and I shouldn't be afraid of expressing my thoughts. They do look so animal like, it is as if they are a relic from evolution before human civilisation. In fact that's what they are, the only tribal systems outside of sub-saharran africa left by around 1300 were in areas which didn't have much food. Yet in the rich jungles of africa they still lived in the stone age, never utilising the wide range of plants there.

I think the out of africa theory is correct and that blacks haven't evolved much whilst caucasians and mongoloids have had to deal with the ice age.

How should I approach these facts rationally? Liberals say I should just ignore them, conservatives say I should become a whtie supremacist nut. Surely there is another way? Surely there is a way to get society to accept these facts without sinking into depths of paranoia and stupidity.

>>746 here.

>>749

[blockquote]As far as I can tell you're claiming that people are breeding intelligence out of the gene pool of other groups by keeping them uneducated?  That's not how natural selection works.[/blockquote]

I understand that's not how natural selection works, but we're not talking about natural selection. We're talking about a genetic selectiveness for such things as intelligence, culture, etc- done by other human beings. 

[blockquote] Nothing subjective about it.  Those civilizations had far ranging cultural effects that have lasted to this day, while african civilizations, with similar starting populations, and similar (if not better) envrionments, never did all that much.  Middle east for example, left to us the number system and religion that we still  use (I'm not religious, just saying).  They were bigger and stronger.  It's undeniable.[/blockquote]

I quoted this whole mess because it's the underlying thesis to your argument and it's fundamentally wrong. The view of what is an "important" contribution is entirely subjective. Neverminding the fact, that the most important contributions were by NO MEANS "original" or "groundbreaking", the idea that all the "best civilizations" had the highest "genetic" IQs is wrong and until you can find evidence of such a thing your argument is moot. You do understand the difference between co-relative theory and scientific methodology, don't you?

[blockquote]This isn't about intellect.  Intellect is someone's ability to quote famous literature or to discuss current events.  Intelligence is something else entirely.[/blockquote]

Cut the semantical nit-picking. You know what the fuck I meant.

[blockquote]I don't know why you keep dragging this one out.  You seem to be taking someone else's line and repeating it without really understanding what it means.  Race is a way for humanity to tell the difference between different groups of people.  They use this to tell you that "race" doesn't exist.  But race is what it is; a way of describing characteristics inherited from one generation to the next.  And those characteristics are influenced by genes.[/blockquote]

I keep dragging it out because your responses generally fail to counter what I'm saying. No race = no genetic relation between IQ and race. You can dice people up into many categories from a wide range of biological groupings other than skin color- are you going to make a "race" out of people with red hair? Are you going to make a "race" out of people with big tits or cleft chins? Such is the concept of "race".

HAI GUYS, LET GO 1000 BY NGET!

763GET

Jesus Christ.Whites are better at certain thing,especially academic,but we have slower reaction times and aren't as coordinated as blacks.Thats why we can't dance or catch a beat as well.Just end this.Whites = academic,
BLACKS = ATHLETIC AND CREATIVITY.Sheesh.

>>764

No. I refuse to allow such a retrogressive practice of discriminating and generalizing whole groups of people.

>>765
Okay then.Majority of Whites = academic,and can't dance.
Majority of BLACKS = ATHLETIC AND CREATIVITY.Sheesh.

>>766

Now make the distniction between culture and genetics and you've got a deal.

>>21
Call me when we decide to lynch them?

>>19
Seriously, we all know asians are the superior race. It's a scientific fact. 4chan is proof you white boys are jealous.

>>30
HIV came from San Francisco man. It's supposedly a failed attempt by the government to wipe out the homosexuals or something. Either that or some guy had sex with some primape that was caring the primape strain of HIV. fucking /b/tards.

>>35
Mogan Freeman is black?

>>36
Gang activity is blue collar working class activity. Somebody needs to sell me my weed and I doubt you'll do it.

>>43
Thank god for 4chan

If evolution is a gradual selection of gene combinations that eventually forms a life form that is well adapted to survive in it's suroundings, then de-evelution must be the lack of selecting gene combinations and there for the life forms that result are maladapted to their environment.

That's all the patience I have for this topic.

so in conclusion,
HURRAY FOR ANONYMOUS!

>>767
Wasn't trying to offend.We just seem to do better in school, (academics).More whites graduate than blacks,but because we get better grades on average does not mean we are necessarily smarter in every aspect cause I have black friends who I am not ashamed to say are smarter and quicker than me on certain points and vice versa.I believe that our environment and upbringing plays a major role in what we achieve.Of course you can't have the genes of a retard or near retardation.My black friends has told me some very unfortunate trails and tribulations they had to undergo growing up,suffice to say I do not envy them and glad my upbringing had the white picket fence.This is one aspect that lots of whites don't understand,lots of us just have a one sided view and forgot or try to forget the oppression effects of slavery which actualy prevented them from reading books and getting educated while also segregating them to the most run down resourceless parts of the country.
  Although I do remember reading something long time ago about the ice ages and fertille cresent from which came evolved people who were caucasian, mongoloids and black hair black eyed fair skin people (possibly italian like).These peoples skull cavities are said to be bigger and thus possibly more intelligent.Though in nature it seems that animals or species of animals  with the biggest brains are not automaticaly more intelligent because of this.You will have to google it yourself.
  

>>769
lol @ academics when you can't even write.

Did you sleep through all your English classes?

>>770

I just can't type well and don't take my time.thats just it though,you don't have 2 b the best in spelling for you to be intelligent or run a billion dollar company.Thats just book sense.

>>769

There have been several groups of homosapiens that have had larger brains, neanderthals being a prime one. There was one group of massive doods that we wiped out a million years ago or so. They were bigger than our predecesors and had larger brains. They were, however, idiots. The brain was big but so were early computers, it took a bit of organisation to make it what it is today.

Humanity has barely changed in the past 100,000 years, if not longer. While there are small genetic defects that pop up (such as being white), sexual selection is a very different thing to overall intelligence. Differences in looks add up to very minor genetic differences, yet don't effect intelligence. However, it will make them more appealing or less appealing, more likely to reproduce, etc.

But the human mind hasn't changed much. There hasn't been much of a reason for evolution to work greatly in ones favour or another. Africa has had it's empires, it's brilliant people through history. Just like good ol' whitey manages to be a complete moron at times. But you treat an entire group of people like crap, subhumam even, and watch what happens to a culture. That's what's happened globally, whether African slaves in the US or Europeans deciding that they knew best and completely ruining things that were working pretty well.

>>771
I just can't type well and don't take my time.
you don't have 2 b the best in spelling for you to be intelligent or run a billion dollar company.

Those two do not go together. If you're not willing to take a few seconds to ensure you present your ideas well, you're going to be complete roadkill in the competitive world of business.

>>773

Thank you Donald Trump for that, really. I was sitting around with my dick in my hand asking myself: "What is 4chan missing?"

HO. LEE. SHIT.

Turns out it's middle aged weeaboo pedos giving people business advice over the internets.

>>773

Is I cared to write a fucking proposal I can god dammit.I hate typing.As long as u know what the fuck I am talking about thats what matters.Spelling mistakes is  for your fucking secretary to figure out after she types your fucking draft.Stop being a nip picking asshole.You know what I am trying to say.I am American but don't think english is my fisrt language.I right better english than most Americans anyway.Don't bother reading it if it bothers u.

>>774
You have to be middle age to see the writing on the wall? Wow, I'd better age right quick; I must be too smart for my age! Get out of the basement, mama's boy.

>>775
You're never going to have a secretary. You'll be serving fries. Who knows, maybe that secretary will be sucking intelligent black cock instead.

777Get

>>776

Fine you're not middle. But you are a weeaboo pedo trying to give business advice over the internet. In other words: You should shut the fuck up.

>>778
It isn't business advice, it's simple truth: if you can't spell and use proper grammar, all you'll ever be is a good blue-collar worker.

Truth is a bitch; sorry if it hurts.

>>779

>>778
you are an idiot.

>>772
I agree.  But it's no reason to deny what's true.

http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/003298.html

>>781

Futurepundit.com isn't a viable resource. It's like quoting FoxNews or CNN or the guardian.co.uk..

>>782
Ok, fine. 

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-03/plos-mth030206.php

>>783

This doesn't prove what you're saying as true. What you percieve as "genetic race" is defined socially first and biologically second. It doesn't exist. Then there's the fact that you have no proof that so-called "great civilizations" has the highest IQs on average for the entire human race. NONE. Zero proof.

>>784
Uhh...  What?  That link had nothing to do with race.  It was about how evolution is still happening.

>>785

Right, exactly. But you're trying to make a co-relation between the two- are you not? Basically you're trying to say that whites and asians are somehow "more evolved" than other races?

Racism: Past and Present
http://www.zmag.org/ZMag/articles/oct96daniels.htm

>>787
So racism in the past was enslaving and murderring people because of their race and racism now is "cultural aggression" or anyone who disagrees with you. I fail to see how freedom of speech is a crime let alone as serious as murder.

Perhaps you can explain. The article didn't.

>>784
Average IQ of England = 100
Average IQ of China = 105
Average IQ of Zambia = 65

>>789
Average IQ is 100 as it is only measured per country.

>>789

That's not proof, buddy. I'm assume these are westernized IQ test, correct? I'm assuming you have a source for those numbers as well, correct? Making conjectures about IQ NOW does account for a period of time when there were no IQ test.

>>766
Can't dance? wtf planet are you on? We can do everything better than those jiggaboos except seizure, which is EXACTLY WHAT BREAK DANCING IS, a controlled seizure.

China isn't westernized. They simply translated the test into Chinese and that was the score. China is still largely a 2nd world nation, like the US during the great depression. An unskilled labourer would be expected to work 10 hour days 6 days a week for £2000-£4000 a year. The reasons for China's high IQ relative to more nourished western nations appear to be it's racial and cultural homogenity in which parents play a larger role in education and children are less likely to be run down by bullying or vicious parents who bore them out of wedlock which frequently occur in framgented immoral multi-cultural multi-racial societies aswell as the slightly higher brain mass of the mongoloid race. I am not ignorant and don't say everything is due to genetic factors, I have acknowledged the environmental factors aswell.

Hong Kong (PRC) 107 Russia 96 Fiji 84
South Korea 106 Slovakia 96 Iran 84
Japan 105 Uruguay 96 Marshall Islands 84
Taiwan (ROC) 104 Portugal 95 Puerto Rico (US) 84
Singapore 103 Slovenia 95 Egypt 83
Austria 102 Israel 94 India 81
Germany 102 Romania 94 Ecuador 80
Italy 102 Bulgaria 93 Guatemala 79
Netherlands 102 Ireland 93 Barbados 78
Sweden 101 Greece 92 Nepal 78
Switzerland 101 Malaysia 92 Qatar 78
Belgium 100 Thailand 91 Zambia 77
China (PRC) 100 Croatia 90 Congo-Brazzaville 73
New Zealand 100 Peru 90 Uganda 73
United Kingdom 100 Turkey 90 Jamaica 72
Hungary 99 Indonesia 89 Kenya 72
Poland 99 Suriname 89 South Africa 72
Australia 98 Colombia 89 Sudan 72
Denmark 98 Brazil 87 Tanzania 72
France 98 Iraq 87 Ghana 71
Norway 98 Mexico 87 Nigeria 67
United States 98 Samoa 87 Guinea 66
Canada 97 Tonga 87 Zimbabwe 66
Czech Republic 97 Lebanon 86 Congo-Kinshasa 65
Finland 97 Philippines 86 Sierra Leone 64
Spain 97 Cuba 85 Ethiopia 63
Argentina 96 Morocco 85 Equatorial Guinea 59

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>>797

As long as whites are solely in control of the majority of the world's wealth and financial systems and as long as status is asscioated with their skin color and the anglo west keep successfully exporting their culture to other regions- all the "whites are being invaded!!!" bollocks is going to sound fairly delusional.

But I suspect because of YOUR race and YOUR "identity" you will not under any circumstances accept the fact that the world is naturally pulling away from everything being controlled by one skin tone of people as a means of progression for all of humankind. Your "mult-culti conspiracies" and prophecies of a race war that you assume will have a white victor are entirely bunk. 

>>798
And the asians don't control a significant portion of that wealth? 

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As long as whites are solely in control of the majority of the world's wealth and financial systems and as long as status is asscioated with their skin color and the anglo west keep successfully exporting their culture to other regions- all the "whites are being invaded!!!" bollocks is going to sound fairly delusional.

But I suspect because of YOUR race and YOUR "identity" you will not under any circumstances accept the fact that the world is naturally pulling away from everything being controlled by one skin tone of people as a means of progression for all of humankind. Your "mult-culti conspiracies" and prophecies of a race war that you assume will have a white victor are entirely bunk.

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Your response sounds pretty delusional to me; you do
bring up some good issues indirectly.

First a little sarcasm.
Yes, you know what, white people are a skin color. Chinese
are a skin color. Japanese is a skin color. Mongoloid
is a skin color. Hottentot is a skin color.

Wait.... White the skin color doesn't refer to white the race!
Ingenious!

Don't try mixing up race with skin color. If you want,
we could simply call 'whites' Aryans. Some 'Aryans' have
darker or ruddier skin. Japanese could be paler than 'Aryans'
in general. Who knows? Never studied their phenotype extensively.

Oh, and white people don't rule this world. This has been
the hubris of white people for a long time, thinking that they're a bunch of all-powerful saints. They all want to
look good and play out being Jesus. It's a bunch of hypocrisy.
They think they know better than the little savages and will
bring happiness and wisdom to all non-Aryans.

That's part of this little allusion that non-Aryans are the
same as Aryans, that there is no difference between an Aryan
and a non-Aryan. It's the desperate cry for cosmopolitanism
that says 'these people are just us like us inside; they just
look different!' Theeaaayyy CAANN BE AAASAAAVVEEEDDDEH! They desperately need to think that they can mold anybody into their
image, no matter what, because they're 'right.'

They are so desperately involved in wanting to be saints that they ignore the normal and sometimes dirty duties of keeping their own people alive and healthy, of preserving anything they hold dear.

White people aren't responsible for this entire planet, we shouldn't be, and the ones that want us to be should be shot.

And any parasitic non-Aryans that are 'white' but not 'Aryan' should be hanged.

We are responsible for ourselves and that's the
way it should be. Get off our back; we're not on yours
no matter what your delusion is. Black on white crime is several
times that of white on black crime. We've got enough problems
to worry about without every other pariah blaming his or her
worries on us when we're just doing our best to survive, except
for the nutzoids that want to buy into crackpot guilt or
saint theories.

As for people waking up from the saint 'whitey' fantasy, I'm all for it. Oh, and I hope that the whole world is never under the control of one race. I hope each race has control over their own affairs. Nobody's more qualified to take care of your family
than your family, and only an idiot would entrust that responsibility to somebody else.