I'm not a racist, but I am...

This forum is full of it, but it's all true. The facts are there. Maybe there is a little hyperbole, sure black people can become doctors, fly planes etc... I'm a reasonable human being, I was raised in a liberal environment. I have bullied before, but never been racist and I see bigotry as immature, however I can't escape the fact that they are indeed very unusual looking.

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"golly, niggers are hideous with their buck teeth, black skin and brillo heads. Egads."

Just do a google search for skull shapes of different races and albino black people... CAucasian and mongoloid skulls are about the same and both these races have obviously exceeded negrito races in culture and civilisation. Even the obscure native americans constructed early civilisations. Their hunter gatherers tribes only existed due to their isolation, deprived of the circumstnaces that allow for agrarian civilisation. Given another 1000 years after the SPanish arrived, and the Gulf of Mexico would be like the Mediteranean circa 1000 B.C..

Though I can't say the same for black civilisations, they were not isolated, theywere exposed to the Egyptians, who were arabic, im not one of these nuts who thinks they are white. I really am not a racist or even a far right conservative...

I can't contain what i think anymore and I shouldn't be afraid of expressing my thoughts. They do look so animal like, it is as if they are a relic from evolution before human civilisation. In fact that's what they are, the only tribal systems outside of sub-saharran africa left by around 1300 were in areas which didn't have much food. Yet in the rich jungles of africa they still lived in the stone age, never utilising the wide range of plants there.

I think the out of africa theory is correct and that blacks haven't evolved much whilst caucasians and mongoloids have had to deal with the ice age.

How should I approach these facts rationally? Liberals say I should just ignore them, conservatives say I should become a whtie supremacist nut. Surely there is another way? Surely there is a way to get society to accept these facts without sinking into depths of paranoia and stupidity.

>> Let me put it this way: Environment effects genes "generally" not on the individual level. If you halt a whole "race's" progress and make everyone of them- "High IQ genes" or not- uneducated slaves...you're going to get some effects.

I don't quite understand what you're saying.  As far as I can tell you're claiming that people are breeding intelligence out of the gene pool of other groups by keeping them uneducated?  That's not how natural selection works.  Natural selection occurs when those with genes more suited to survival are able to reproduce.  Under the scenario you described, evolution would just halt, and the "IQ-Genes" would neither increase or decrease, because intelligence will have become inconsequential to an individual's survival.

>>Also: How can you say with any certainty that the people of the civilizations YOU *SUBJECTIVELY* deem as "superior" had collectively high IQs?

 Nothing subjective about it.  Those civilizations had far ranging cultural effects that have lasted to this day, while african civilizations, with similar starting populations, and similar (if not better) envrionments, never did all that much.  Middle east for example, left to us the number system and religion that we still  use (I'm not religious, just saying).  They were bigger and stronger.  It's undeniable.

>>We don't know everything about intellect, but what we *do* know is that Intellect isn't static, it isn't fixed.

This isn't about intellect.  Intellect is someone's ability to quote famous literature or to discuss current events.  Intelligence is something else entirely.

>>I also, would like you to respond to what I've been saying about haplotypes- you seem unable to understand that there is no biological basis for "race" Why?

I don't know why you keep dragging this one out.  You seem to be taking someone else's line and repeating it without really understanding what it means.  Race is a way for humanity to tell the difference between different groups of people.  They use this to tell you that "race" doesn't exist.  But race is what it is; a way of describing characteristics inherited from one generation to the next.  And those characteristics are influenced by genes.