Reported Magnitude 8.9.
10+meter Tsunamis reported in Thailand, Bangladesh, Siri Lanka. Some islands in the Maldives completely flooded.
Aftershocks in the area in the 7+ range.
This is the largest quake since Alaska 1964.
link: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqinthenews/2004/usslav/
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Anonymous2004-12-26 4:07
IT HAS BEGUN~~~ LOL
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Anonymous2004-12-26 14:44
This shit is crazy. Really really insane and unfortunate.
But he's right. I think modern cargo boats are made for higher waves, though they loose against the "really" high ones.
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Film11!7TXcUi5s9.2004-12-27 14:47
This isn't about ships, its about 10-metre waves at the damned shoreline. That are filled with thousands of tourists in buildings. All of those things come together and what do you get - chaos, death and general destruction.
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Kay2004-12-27 15:30
Neva said this was about ships...
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Anonymous2004-12-27 16:52
its actually not about the initial impact... though many died in the actual event
the ensuing conditions and diseases will comprise the bulk of the casualties when its all said and done
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Anonymous2004-12-27 17:10
It's not about the 10 meter wave, it's about the massive speed and unrelenting power of it. It just keeps going on and on. The whole fucking ocean is going with it.
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Kageshima!W.rJY3yfYQ2004-12-27 23:41
And yet people STILL insist on beachfront property. It`s a tragedy, but I`d personally never build on a beach. Or anywhere else where nature is just waiting to kick you in the face (fault lines, volcanically active foothills, tornado alley, hurricane alley.... etc etc...)
Had a friend in Phuket when this happened. She, being from Alaska, immediately realized what it meant when the water all went away, and headed back to her upland hotel on the 4th floor where she waited it out. Said the mess was scary, though. Tried to tell people what was happening, but of course she didn't speak Thai, only Japanese.
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Anonymous2004-12-28 9:43
I love massive earthquakes, but sadly not enough people dies. :/
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Anonymous2004-12-28 11:59
Supposedly it changed the earths rotataion?
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Kageshima!W.rJY3yfYQ2004-12-28 14:09
History always repeats. You would think that, looking at the history of the area, people wouldn`t have bothered even thinking about living there. Anyone who was surprised that this happened was obviously fairly dim-witted. When you choose a dangerous place to live, this will invariably happen. It always does. I find it incredible that people will invariably rebuild in the EXACT SAME SPOT AGAIN.
It blows my mind.
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Tarage2004-12-28 14:32 (sage)
This is why I feel talking politics with some of the "pranksters" on 4chan is futile. Anyone who laughs at this sort of thing is looking for attention or, frankly, completly brain dead.
So yeah... enjoy the filth.
-Tarage
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Anonymous2004-12-28 15:39
>>23
I care. Really, I do. Look at me caring. See? This is me caring.
Thanks for stopping by! Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Yes, intellectually we feel sorry for their suffering. But do you emotionally feel anything? Unless you knew someone who was there, it's so remote you just don't care.
I fail to understand your point: are you just trying to sound bitter? Nearly every place on this lowly planet is dangerous for one reason or another. Humans have, at this point, no other place to go, particularly since nobody (no government) seems interested in colonization of other bodies in this solar system.
It's not as if you're going to find a "safe" place on this planet that isn't a site for some sort of active series of climatological or geological events. The idea is that as humans increase our collective understanding we can learn to deal with and maybe even predict such events, and handle them in a manner that reduces the amount of damage and especially loss of life.
What happened there is unfortunate. Especially so because so many tragic deaths could have been prevented if the skinflint governments in the region (India, I'm talkin to you!) had invested in some form of early warning system for tsunamis. This sort of death toll simply doesn't occur in the Pacific under similar circumstances, mostly because nearly everywhere around the Ring of Fire has some form of tsunami warning system, even if only via ham radio.
I know someone who was there. She's pretty bothered by it. I haven't heard from her but once because it's difficult to communicate with anyone in the region at this point.
As for emotional feelings, it's perfectly normal not to feel any sort of strong emotion related to such an incident if you're not involved in some manner. We're inundated with news of terrible situations around the world every day by mass media and modern technology. Just as how your eyes adapt to bright light, and how your nociception (pain sensation system) adapts to continuous low level pain, your emotions adapt to the continuous barrage of bad news. For the same reason people in prison camps feel jaded after seeing so many people tortured, you just get used to it despite the awfulness. That's not a wonderful thing, but it is an adaptation that allows us to survive in adversity.
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les aptt2004-12-29 3:50
The US has pledged around $50M dollars. Godamn joke. That won't bury all the dead dogs.
Think what could be done with the money being spent in Iraq.
Wanna' Truly Major Victory in the War on Terror?
Indonesia is the largest Muslum countery (by Pop.) on the planet and the island of Sumatra was the hardest hit. Do a Marshall Plan for ALL affected. Rescue, rebuild—and get the fuck out.
I'd love to see Bush's face right now because this has sealed his fate. In any perspective you can call up—he blew it. In addition to the above:
Evangelical: Picked the WRONG Tribulation and squandered everything upon it in an act of supreme hubris.
Corporate: The loss of probably One Million new low wage workers.
I could go on but the rest is TOO depressing. :(
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Anonymous2004-12-29 10:16
Why the fuck are they softening the blow on the news? They had the 80,000 total a long time ago but major news outlets are trickling out bigger and bigger numbers. Finally today cnn is reporting 80,000.
>>22
What people fail to realize is that the Richter scale is logrithmic (base 10). An earthquake that rates a scale 8 is 10 times more powerful than a scale 7.
>>25
Admittedly, when 11 September 2001 occured, I felt very little. It is somewhat the same in this case. Oddly enough, when the Space Shuttle Columbia exploded, I was saddened.
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Anonymous2004-12-29 12:34 (sage)
>>That won't bury all the dead dogs.
Think what could be done with the money being spent in Iraq.
lol, wildlife organization reported NO animal death so far....no animal corpse found...... >_>;;;
you think the government are the only source to pledge money? you never hear about the private sector donating money to the tsunami victims I assume...
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Random Anonymous Fucktard2004-12-29 18:28 (sage)
>>33
People heard the words governments speak, not private interests.
Microsoft could donate several billion tomorrow... but most people do not immediately associate Microsoft with the United States.
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Kageshima!W.rJY3yfYQ2004-12-29 20:59
>>31 Admittedly, I would not choose to live on the fault line in California. A good distance away, but still in the state would be fine.
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Zzzzz2004-12-29 22:31
The interesting thing is that earthquakes are really the one act of nature that mankind has learned to compensate for in construction.
I suppose you could have one of those short flat concrete bunkers they call "hurricane proof homes" but it won't do you much good if the hurricane drags along floodwaters.
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les aptt2004-12-30 2:39
Yes, modern construction can save lives. Most folks in this part of the world sadly live in crap housing. With Tidal Waves warning is the key. If you're ever at the beach and the water suddenly recedes so should you—as fast as you can away from the beach and uphill.
Already looting has started. Not some clown lookin' for a flat-screen but people lookin' for food. In about a week Cholera and Typhus outbreaks. When it's all done it's gonna be over 500,000.
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FLcracker2004-12-30 9:28
>>29
You are like the bum that sits on the side of the road asking for money and then spitting on someone who gives you $10.
I would like to know why when all hell breaks loose everyone looks to the USA (the country that most people in the world despise because of it's prosperity and so to speak "lack of culture") for help and then almost without exception blames us in some way for all the bad in the world.
Why aren't all of the other countries in the world that could afford to throw some money and aid to the region being ridiculed for their lack of participation in the same way that the US is? Look at how much France and Germany have contributed.
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Anonymous2004-12-30 9:40
Do you think this and the war that the US lead in Iraq can somehow be tied together?
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Kageshima!W.rJY3yfYQ2004-12-30 10:08
Ironic that the world looks at the US so poorly when we "police the world", and then when we actually stay out of something, they bitch about that too. We didn`t used to be this way. Look at WWI and WWII. We just stayed out of it, supporting the allies through limited trade, and for a purely economical reason. It was only when the allies lost the ability to protect themselves or evenour own ships when they were in their waters that we were forced to step in. And a lot of Americans died. No other country should be surprised that we jump in so early now... and when we choose not to, they should keep silent, since it`s really what they ask for every other time.
Americans just keep whining about others being mean to them. Grow up bitches! US of A isn't giving jack shit compared to it's wealth and size. Hell, Spain alone gives twice what USA gives. Whining bitches.
Snooty snoot on you, uncultured beasts.
If you're done equating governments with people, maybe now is a good time to stop trolling the thread.
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Random Anonymous Fucktard2004-12-30 16:15
It's probably more about where the US chooses to intervene and where it doesn't. And until Bush openly started throwing US weight around a lot of people didn't think much either way about the it.
It doesn't help that the US government continues to persist asking other governments for troops when they've been told "no" by the same people the previous few dozen times.
States act in their own self-interest. But that doesn't stop people disliking them.
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Tarage2004-12-31 13:28 (sage)
We are giving 350 million... FAR MORE than I think is neccary and we can afford.
I hope you twits are happy, though I'm betting the argument will now be "omg they do it NOW dat we prezzurd dem lolz day flip floperz".
I'm sorry, but common sense, even in world4ch, is going to be lacking because the average 4channer lacks much maturity. /b/ is example enough.
-Tarage
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Anonymous2004-12-31 15:49
Good for you. Finally USA does the right thing. As long as it's not loans with funny conditions...
now stop whining.
Tell you what we'll do. We'll completely cut off our aid for five years. Not one crumb of food. Not one penny in money. Nothing what so ever.
At the end of that five years, I'll be more than happy to let you and anyone else kiss my ass as you BEG us to do even half of what we do now. We provide more than half of all the aid in the world. If you combined the aid every single country in the world provides it won't even come close to matching what just the United States gives.
Jealous much? Yeah, It hought so.
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Anonymous2004-12-31 19:04
>>46 FAR MORE than I think is neccary and we can afford.
Ya, it must be hard to be the richest nation in the world.
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Anonymous2004-12-31 20:38 (sage)
Such a big earquake and tunami. I prayed for the people
who were involved in this disaster on New Year's Day.
We are now talking about Five Million homeless.
The croc's are now feasting on the dead on Sumatra.
And in the most disgusting thing I've heard so far, reportedly Colin Powell is gonna tour.
And he's taking Jeb FUCKIN" Bush with him?
Just like them to see a chance to groom Bush III.
#49
Yes, but we now provide it soley where it gives advantage to the Bush regimes Agenda. Thailand? No problem. Sri Lanka? That's OK cuz it's pretty. Civil war?
Indonesia (sic)? Where the greatest horrors are? The largest Muslum population on the planet (well USED to be anyway)? Time will tell but Shrub's track record is against him.
Lastly—for now—how many rebuilding contracts gonna go "no-bid" to..... ?
Yes because we all know that there's an 'agenda' in giving aid to people who need it. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact that everyone from one end of the political spectrum to the other took one look at this situation and said "What can we do to help?"
But you're so blinded by your hate that you have to not see reality in front of you. Most of the world is helping those people, and there's no "agenda" involved in it.
As for the "no bid", let me ask you something. You hire somebody to fix your car, and they do a good job... So where do you go next time? Do you search each and every shop each time you get your car fixed or do you return to the same one again and again?
Now that you understand why the Pentagon has "no bid" contracts now you get to ponder the complexities of working out a huge contract with a new company each and every time you need one. The reason the Pentagon gave Haliburton a "no bid" contract is because they have a standing relationship that goes back a long way.
Was there anything else you wanted me to teach you?
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Anonymous2005-01-01 14:43
I heard that America was giving something like 20 million originally. The UK at the same time gave 15 million from the government and 10 million already from random individuals and businesses. America then realised that it was looking pretty bad to be giving only around the same as the UK, a smaller country, and multiplied it by ten.
Hopefully this will make America seem more generous in the public eye, especially in the middle east, and mean that there will be less money for America to wage war with.
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les aptt2005-01-03 2:48
>>55
"Most of the world is helping those people, and there's no "agenda" involved in it."
And for most of the world, you are correct. That also goes for most Americans. A local pizza place was on the news tonight for donating todays' proceeds to relief. I happened to drive by half an hour later and there was a line around the block and its 28F at the moment.
But if the Bush regime has no agenda then why send Jeb? Because of his disaster management skills?
Any 4channers from Florida care to comment on that?
"As for the "no bid"..."
Perhaps I've been a little hasty here. Perhaps the contracts will be local (as much as possible), perhaps Haliburton will do whatever at cost. Perhaps.
Lastly, why yes—there is much you can teach me for I am known as one "Less Apt". For one thing, I fail at having the utter faith you seem to possess in the corporate state. What do you know that I do not? I'm confused as to which of us is blind.
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les aptt2005-01-03 2:57
>>55
"Most of the world is helping those people, and there's no "agenda" involved in it."
And for most of the world, you are correct. That also goes for most Americans. A local pizza place was on the news tonight for donating todays' proceeds to relief. I happened to drive by half an hour later and there was a line around the block and its 28F at the moment.
But if the Bush regime has no agenda then why send Jeb? Because of his disaster management skills?
Any 4channers from Florida care to comment on that?
"As for the "no bid"..."
Perhaps I've been a little hasty here. Perhaps the contracts will be local (as much as possible), perhaps Haliburton will do whatever at cost. Perhaps.
Lastly, why yes—there is much you can teach me for I am known as one "Less Apt". For one thing, I fail at having the utter faith you seem to possess in the corporate state. What do you know that I do not? I'm confused as to which of us is blind.
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Anonymous2005-08-31 13:22
pah...
you guys think sumatra in a mess ???
im an indonesian...
go to Jakarta around 12 am
there are 3 option you would get...
1. robbed and stabbed by a rusty knife
2. just robbed at knife point
3. pickpocketed
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Anonymous2005-09-03 10:54 (sage)
>>46
they're finns yo. that should tell you enough.