i killed a man
if there was a god
would he not atleast punish me, if not wipe me from existence?
but i'm still here
proof that polk makes the best subs
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Anonymous2007-10-16 5:29
God exists is just words. What matters is what you do.
>>1 you prove he exists and i will believe... maybe
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Anonymous2007-10-26 11:09
i know he doesnt exist cuse i saw him die. prove i didn't
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Anonymous2007-10-26 17:23
>>36
That's a common misconception of the Christian belief, you don't earn points to go to heaven, you do through believing in Jesus and living his way¹. Also there is suffering in the world because we are disobeying God, so its just not Adam and Eves fault, so sin is still around. Heaven as the Bible presents it is not the airy fairy sitting in clouds junk that the media perpetuates, it is a new earth, this one will be scorched to the ground when Jesus comes the second time.
¹ I would just like to point out that many people claim they are Christians but often don't live like it or leave it to Sundays only in the end they are just merely creating a facade...
>>42
Everyone will be judged with Jesus' second coming. If you don't believe in him and his death that cleansed you from sin and live a Godly life, then you will enter hell. Even Christians are exposed to errors, we aren't perfect.
I believe many people are turned off from Christianity because off those who always asserting that Christianity is always right and everything else wrong. As a Christian, our role is to relay the message (that Jesus died to save us from sin and live Godly lives) to everyone, not to enforce our belief onto others, not everyone will believe, some will but will be consumed by the world (ie turn away from God) and others will continue onwards.
And for those who want proof that God exists, just turn towards the Bible, many witnesses and believers have been imprisoned and executed for this belief, many more mocked and kicked out of home and jobs. So why would so many people die for a false belief?
P.S. Darwin was a Christian.
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Anonymous2007-10-27 17:49
>>48 that's the problem with xtianity, it promotes belief too much and doesn't promote action enough. Also, there's the matter of something being "true to whomever believes it to be true", whether it's objective or not. so why not try to promote making the world a better place and showing how making the world a better place shows that Jesus saves the world from sin through your religion?
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Anonymous2007-10-27 17:50
oh yeah, and Islam sucks, it's a warrior religion and too many Muslim countries are dictatorships and theocracies.
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Anonymous2007-10-27 17:56
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And for those who want proof that God exists, just turn towards the Bible, many witnesses and believers have been imprisoned and executed for this belief, many more mocked and kicked out of home and jobs. So why would so many people die for a false belief?"
Um, you might want to ask people of just about any other religion the same thing; being persecuted is not unique to Christianity.
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Anonymous2007-10-27 18:07
Judaism, Christianity, and Shintoism ALL pwn Islam
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Anonymous2007-10-28 21:34
well i believe in God and when you think about it, it's safer to be religious. if you don't believe in God and you die and there is a God, then you burn in Hell forever. But if you believe in God, die, and there is no God, then you're just as dead as everybody else and you wouldn't know the difference anyway. but if you do believe in God, and there is a God when you die, then you have a better chance of enjoying the afterlife. so, by believing in God you're at least covering your ass in case He does exist. see my point? but then of course you have to obey the religion's teachings in order to get to the positive afterlife.
>>53
It's just amazing that you religitards give this deity all this power and knowledge, but you assume it's not smart enough to figure out your insincerity. "Covering your ass"? Don't you think that an omniscient being might see through that facade?
DOLT.
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Anonymous2007-10-29 16:26
I RAPED THE VIRGIN MARY AND HUNG THAT BASTARD CHRIST!
That assumes that living a life of truth has absolutely no value in itself. This is frightenning as it is also based on the assumption that once an individual is dead (assuming there is no god) it matters not what they did while they lived.
If you live a life believing in a god which doesn't exist, going against your own feelings in order to please and adhere to rules which are based on misunderstandings, you effectively waste your life.
It is therefore more appropriate to base your life on what is around you today, on what is tangible and accessable now. To live by rules which are unverifiable until your time of death is to sacrifice yourself without reason.
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Anonymous2007-10-30 21:13
God exists, its only matter of faith,
im not a big religious dude, in fact im not, but there is something more outhere.
And if you cant believe in something, well, i feel sorry for all of you;
living without believing in nothing...
soon or later you'll find what im talking about
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Anonymous2007-10-31 1:42
"God is a concept by which we measure our pain" - John Lennon
Also I'd like to point out that giving up hope is the most liberating thing ever. What if God isn't real, huh? You just wasted your entire fucking life!
RAmen!
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Anonymous2007-10-31 6:24
>>1
"I will not." (Alucard in SOTN first Death meeting)
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Anonymous2007-10-31 6:39
This brings to question whether everyone who believes in God will go to heaven, and what God is trying to achieve by doing so.
>>64
If you prove the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists.
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Anonymous2007-11-02 4:07
Jesus is a Jew, a Jewmonster * eat my flesh and drink my blood*
what a freak! throw away that false religion, you have had your fun for 2007 years stop playing now
Alright number 1, here is the thing about the argument you are trying to create, it's impossible to tell whether gods or goddesses actually exists or not. This argument has been played out to many times here and should stop.
Remember, I have no problems with anyones beliefs, so please do not start slandering me.
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Anonymous2007-11-06 8:20
And what exactly is it doing in "World News"?
I mean, it's new like, i don't know, thousands of years maybe?
Or are you the first one to actually back up your statement with actual evidence?
It is world news if god exists in the same way it is universe news, it would affect everything.
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Anonymous2007-11-09 19:30
Haruhi Suzumiya is the only god for me
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Anonymous2007-11-10 21:10
God does not exist logically. It's called Occam's razor. A fucking christian created it, too. He did it to say, "You cannot believe in God logically, it must be done through faith alone,"
Next on the list: The Bible is a stupid source to promote the "existence" (we'll be getting to this verb in a second) of God. Why? Because all of the Bible's accounts of God and Jesus were written years (some of the apostles accounts as far along as 30 years later) and years after they took place. The Bible has a bunch of mixed messages (love and peace... unless she's a woman; oh and slavery's sorta ok... homosexuality is evil, too; oh! and believe in me or I will destroy X city!). Let's not forget that this stuff has all be translated from Greek, Hebrew, and Latin. Simply put: If Jesus and God do exist, their words have been diluted substantially, so much that we can only be sure of very little. Most of it is exaggeration, poor recall, and bias (humans did write it...).
God cannot "exist". Why? Because exist is a shitty word. If God, this awesome and supreme almighty omnipotent being, who can defy the laws of physics and create something from nothing, and somehow transcends all dimension of space and time (personally, this is the only explanation I have for how God could "exist" to create the universe AND still somehow exist before there was a universe for him to exist in), he will not "exist". Hell, who's to say God couldn't "exist" and "not exist" simeltaneously? To describe a truly omnipotent being's presence in the universe will require some verb we have yet to imagine with our tiny little brains. No, God, should he exist, is not totally beyond our capabilities (it's not like trying to teach a dog English), but currently, I don't think we're mature enough to fathom exactly how such a being would even function. We still don't even know everything about ourselves.
And while we're quoting Plato,
"The only thing I know, is that I know nothing," (Socrates, Plato's Apology)
Christians claim to know, but the truth is we can never "know". We can only observe, and there is no way to observe god except through faith. So I'm afraid you will have to quietly accept this fact. Be temperate.
Aetheists: You're as dumb as the devout. To decide is to sever from the part of a whole. Chose without deciding. Think on this and return. Or go fap. That's probably a better use of your unvalued time.
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Anonymous2007-11-11 11:18
^ you made me read a fukken wall of text just to tell me to go fap?
Like I wouldnt do that anyway man ... pointless discussion is pointless ^_^
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Anonymous2007-11-11 12:23
god exists? why not? if he really does exist let him sort out Darfur that would make me believe
Of all the mass imbecilities which have demoralised mankind, this of racial equality between all peoples, White, Black, Red and Yellow, is the most inane. Politically, it has already stirred up all the minor races into a state of belligerence and discontent which will impose minor wars on the dominant nations for years to come. But when it comes to racial integration between the White and Black races, sanity has descended to the looney bin of the impossible, because the intermixture of blood between those races must degrade the White race to the level of the Negro and cannot raise the Negro to the level of the White. Where today we see some evidence of the effect of education on the Negro it is the White blood in him that stirs some animation in his sluggish mental faculties, but the Negro pure, as he exists in Africa, cannot be educated even up to the standard of the lowest content of the White race. He may learn to parrot all the political and sociological clichés of today, but unless he is buttressed by the White race, and policed by it, he must relapse back to the jungle, which is his predestined habitat.
There appears to be an illusion today that this age is the first one in which the Negro has come into contact with a White civilisation, and so had a chance to benefit by its cultural and sociological ordinances. This is not the case. Since the genesis of this present civilisation some six or seven thousand years ago, the Negro has had contact with many past episodes of civilisation, but always, as each subsided, he has relapsed back to the jungle. The other three races, White, Yellow and Red, have devised their own civilisations, and have maintained them through the ages, but it is only in quite recent years that the Negro has come into relations with them. As in the past, his status has been one of slavery, because he has never been able to compete culturally with their achievements in the arts and crafts and intellectual standards. Nor can he compete today with those same achievements, because he utterly lacks the creative faculty: he has no thumbs. The only thing he ever learned to do was to smelt iron ore and hammer out his spear heads. That weapon was essential to the preservation of his existence in his tribal wars, and his food derived from wild animals able to defend themselves with teeth and claws.
Save for the Chinese, and other Asiatic peoples, all other civilisations were generated on the shores of the Mediterranean and the Negro penetration of them was very slight, except, perhaps, with the Egyptians, who were themselves a dark coloured race, but with no relation to the Negroid peoples. Only the Moors and Arabs, because of their geographical contiguity with Africa, have kept up the slave trade with Negroes, but sexual union with them was strictly prohibited. Or impossible for that matter. By a very simple clinical ritual, the Negro became a harmless guard and menial to the Harem. It is only since the colonisation of Africa by the British, Dutch, French and Belgian peoples that the Negro has become a momentous world problem within the last two decades. The British, French and Belgian peoples solved it for themselves by handing their colonies over to the Negroes. The Dutch could not do that. They had been so long in South Africa that they had built up another white race there—the Boers. And there, the world may be assured, they will remain, and the Negro will not be permitted racial equality with them. What must happen shortly between those peoples is already predestined. The only other country on which the full weight of the Negro falls is America.
And the Politician’s solution to it of race integration is a desperation measure which never can succeed, as the politicians themselves know, but at present, they dare not do anything about it, for President Johnson won the presidential campaign by handing himself over to the largest section of the community to command the vote, just as Roosevelt did to capture the presidential chair. We know that section, which is the pestilential problem of all peoples who seek to keep a sane balance of rationality in the conduct of their political and sociological affairs. In Australia, we call them Wowsers—a stigma word which Mencken incorporated in his American Language, but as yet Americans have not adopted it. A stigma word has great power.
In America the Wowser is the self-elected Dogooder—the temperance crank, the Purity Leaguer, the anti-saloon leaguer, the Comstock bookshop smasher and picture slasher; in short, that chapel product of the cheap suburbs and the rural back blocks which seeks to impose its own horrible codes and doctrines on all that makes life tolerable for well constituted humanity. They are the people who imposed Prohibition on America and very nearly wrecked the country. In Russia, they were largely responsible for the Revolution by cutting off the people’s need for liquor during the 194 war. They are the Pacifists—the peace at any pricers, the appeasers at any threat of war which thereby makes it inevitable by inviting aggression from piratically inclined nations. They are today trying to cripple Johnson’s handling of the Viet Nam war: the finest piece of statecraft since the great days of England as a world power, when half a dozen words from Lord Salisbury was enough to send Russia scuttling back from the Oxus. It is a great pleasure to know that our men are fighting with the Yanks, and that more are being trained to follow, if needed.
It is the Wowser, then, to use one stigma term for a generic type common to America, England, and Australia, who is doing all the mischief today by inflating the Negro with a state of megalomania which convinces him that he is the victim of monstrous injustice by the white peoples, and all revenges on them are his by right of martyrdom. And that revenge he will take whenever he has power to do so.
We must concede him injustice so far in that the Whites have invaded his country and taken possession of large sections of it. In the past, they made a commodity of him in the slave market. Those same Whites have now handed back to him the sections of country they had occupied and have freed him from slavery. Justice can go no further than that.
But America, swung off a sane balance of rationality by the maudlin sentimentality of the Wowsers for the assumed sad lot of the Negroes, has allowed its politicians to establish them in equal civil and social rights with the Whites. They have ordained that the white children must consort intimately with the black offspring from infancy to adolescence, and that alone insures sexual intimacy between the two races. That American mothers—always so passionately possessive over their young—should have allowed them to do such a noxious thing is evidence that they are too dazed by the bulldozing tactics of the politicians to realise its inevitable consequences. It is assumed that education will dispose of the physiological compulsions inherent in all such propinquity of the human species.
Education! This age has become besotted over its assumed potentialities to perform a universal miracle, which is that text books alone can create a civilisation. It ignores the irrefutable evidence that only a civilised mind can be educated. Education is nothing more than a procedure for exercising intellectual faculties which are a content of the mind at birth. It has taken the white race six thousand years to develop those special faculties on which all civilisations have been built. The craftsman’s fingers, the musician’s ear, the artist’s hand and eye, the scientist’s investigation of all natural phenomena are inherited from progenitors who have left behind them the brain cells, and the muscular reflexes essential to all creative effort. And it is now assumed that education, in a generation or two, will allow the wretched Negro to develop those special faculties and so allow him to compete on equal terms with the White race as a civilised being. Imbecility can go no further than such a preposterous assumption.
Already the Negro mass is in a vicious state of resentment because it has not straightway been vested in all the rights and privileges of the Whites. The Los Angeles episode is a sufficient evidence of a universal state of mind among the Negroes. And that is only the beginning of the trouble. When he finds that the higher-class whites will not consort with him on equal terms, and that there is no place for him among the trained working class, no police force in the world will be adequate to control him.
Americans are not a docile people when politicians impose arbitrary interdictions on the free conduct of their civic rights and their private lives. The politicians’ failure to inflict Prohibition on the American people is evidence of what they must expect by this proposal to impose racial integration with the Negroes on them. It only required an adjustment of the legal code to dispose of Prohibition, but no such adjustment can solve the Negro problem for them. There is only one possible solution to that, but I am not going to take it on myself to suggest it. It must be already pregnant in the minds of all higher class American thinkers today.
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Anonymous2007-11-15 11:30
Let us all bow down and praise God, Kiss his feet and his ass, Or you will be confined to Hell for all of eternity. Stop making babies without marriage or you will BURN IN FUCKING HELL for some reason. whim wham wimble damn
I'M THE SAGE-MAN, BITCH.
IT'S IN THE FUCKING BIBLE.
AND SO, THIS TOPIC IS OFFICIALLY TAKEN OVER BY THE REPUBLIC OF SAGE.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.
YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR TIME.
NOW THIS TOPIC SHALL BE ABOUT FAIL AND AIDS.