FUCK this generation

Do any other 18-25 year olds hate their generation as much as I do? God, I'm so embarrassed to be a part of this age group.

We're spoiled, self-absorbed, gadget-obsessed pieces of shit. We're the fattest generation in America, ever, and each generation is even fatter than the last one.

Culturally (talking 2000s+) our music has sucked, our TV shows suck, our fashion is retarded. Mostly the only pockets of anything semi-decent at all is stuff we stole from previous generations. We look back to our childhood and the glory days of the 90s because we can't manage to create anything HALF as decent these days.

Educationally, we get As for doing shit work. In grade school you can practically graduate just by showing up in class once in a while. Teachers and parents are deathly afraid to criticize anyone, and this turns everyone into a spoiled self-obsessed little shit who can't handle any criticism. Everyone grows up thinking they're "special" or "gifted" even if they're a retarded little fucker fit for nothing but scrubbing crappers.

EVERYONE goes to college these days. A college diploma is practically what a high school diploma was 50 years ago. Professors give out As for what shouldn't even get a D, ESPECIALLY to the minority students.

Economically we go into a company, acting like we're BIG SHIT even if we've had no real experience whatsoever. We expect to be able to come in late in jeans and T-shirts, browse the internet for half the workday, treat the existing employees like shit, and then leave early while still charging 8 hours and demanding a ridiculous salary.

I hear that some people even have the nerve to call this generation the "Lost Generation". Fuck NO.

You know what the REAL Lost Generation went through? World War I, going through the most hellish conditions imaginable. Boo hoo hoo you think Iraq and Afghanistan are bad? Take a look at the trench warfare in World War I: getting infected with gangrene, living with huge rats, and constantly having machine gun fired at you.

Then after the 20s, suffering through the Great Depression. Look at photos of Hoovervilles. This current recession doesn't have shit on it.

Then after the 30s, another major war: World War 2. THAT is what the real Lost Generation went through. God, FUCK this generation...

>>1
That's an extremely Shallow way to look at at your generation. And just because you are a simpleton doesn't mean everybody is - the rest of us live lives of meaningful, consistently evolving realizations. Meanwhile, you are holed up in your room with computer, and your desk job with computer, and you do not know the struggles of our generation because you have never experienced beyond your surface observations. Life is as complex and heroic and beautiful now as ever; you are the one missing out on life lol.

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>>3
ouch...

>>3
Jeepers! That sure was some fail, mister!

>>2
Excuse me, but what the fuck are you talking about?

I agree to a certain extent, but we're not all like this. We know Great Depression II is heading our way, and the decadence, the self-absorbed attitudes, and the arrogance that started with the Baby Boomer generation and subsequent generations will come to an end. Perhaps another Great Depression is a blessing in disguise, since I very much feel that large swaths of the population need a good culling. Eugenics is not the solution, so economic calamity and people starving to death is the next best thing.

I know it sounds cold and just plain awful, but I feel it is a necessary evil in order for us to have another great renaissance so the United States is no longer the laughing stock of the world.

>>1
>>7
you guys realize that this is not only the case in the US, right?

>>8
Oh yes, I know. But most of the population in the US is oblivious to things, and just baaah like a bunch of sheep. This is the nation that was suckered in to two wars based on lies, and now they're already cheering for a war on Iran. The sheep need to be culled and the empire needs to die. Ditto for anywhere else in the world with similar ills.

Also, (>>1,7)

Culturally (talking 2000s+) our music has sucked, our TV shows suck, our fashion is retarded. Mostly the only pockets of anything semi-decent at all is stuff we stole from previous generations. We look back to our childhood and the glory days of the 90s because we can't manage to create anything HALF as decent these days
This is all, unfortunately, true. I feel even more sorry for kids born in the late 90s/2000s...just think about it. Makes us look a lot better.

Textbook civilization decline. There's not going to be another golden age until everything hits rock bottom and there's nowhere left to go but up.

>>10
Same here, man. Same here.

When people say we are the lost generation, they mean we have nothing to live for anymore. Our lives are so simple and easy that we just coast through them. The difference between 1910 and 2010 is that we no longer have any hope for the future, not like we once did. We're no longer progressing as a species, we've stalled. We need a good shake-up if we want to get back on track. I'd say a nuclear war would do the trick.

>>12
I can sort of agree with this, though nuclear war doesn't have to be the answer, that's mostly the oligarchs running the show pushing for nuclear war. Another Great Depression would be sufficient, but no, they want it all.

>>12
I'd say a nuclear war would do the trick.

that would be overkill, but i can agree with you.
never the less, these are interesting times we live in, maybe not at the moment but it will become interesting.

Life has become redundant, that's why some are calling this the lost generation. Manufacturing is gone, and they said that we're going to be a "service-sector society". Let's break down the word "service" for a second — service, serve, servant, servitude, serf, that's what has happened. We've become a bunch of serfs under a type of feudalistic, fascist (merger of state and corporate power), collective, society of modern day serfs, peasants, and lords, all fighting to get as much worthless fiat paper money as possible.

People ((OP)) try to put us dooown
just because we get around.

Most agreed. Also, here's some older, related threads.

http://dis.4chan.org/read/lounge/1269448974 - Consumer whores
http://dis.4chan.org/read/lounge/1269591951 - The poverty of Being Cummed Inside
http://dis.4chan.org/read/lounge/1277278560 - A critique of general every day life
http://dis.4chan.org/read/lounge/1278041831 - USA to draft everyone
http://dis.4chan.org/read/lounge/1279531993 - Corrupt system

I just listen to classical to calm the nerves. Takes me back to the Age of Enlightenment where they was nothing but prosperity and a future to look forward to. Qualities, which sadly, is akin to attempting to find a needle in a haystack in this current era.

http://theclassicalstation.org/internet.shtml

>>17
thank you very much kind sir.

Yeah you guys, the only way to improve anything is to tear it down and rebuild. Forget all of the progress humankind has made and just throw us all into despair so we can learn from the experience. Then let's rebuild only to let people in the future fall into our "position".

Or people can just improve more and realize that things are the way they are because society has evolved to the point where we don't have great struggles anymore (severe poverty, great wars, etc). (Not including third world countries, of course.)

Nothing to live for? Redundant? That's because people don't have to be barbarians anymore.

OP is bitching because we don't have to waste our lives on busywork and fighting wars. OP is saying that a generation's worth is marked by how much pointless struggle and strife it goes through. OP is too stupid to take advantage of the fact that he has leisure time and no threats on his life, so he bitches - sitting alone at his computer. Why you mad, though, OP?

>>20
I think you've misunderstood. What we're alluding to is not that because of barbarism that people develop a sense of themselves (although in the past that was probably true), but that this is a very consumer orientated society that doesn't really build any character in people, hence there's no longer a purpose that people feel in life. Then we wonder why there's advertisements for pills that treat depression and the side effects of them being suicide!

Even those who didn't really have skills at least were content in producing something tangible in a factory somewhere, now most of that stuff has moved to China, and stocking shelves at Wal-Mart at two o'clock in the morning doesn't exactly carry the same kind of feeling of accomplishment.

Even making simple things like birdhouses and weaving a basket can give an individual a feeling of accomplishment.

It has a lot more to do with a lot of things than just simply a lack of "barbarism".

>>21
Some of the best and brightest came out of the worst strife and struggle.

I think OP's posing a legitimate critique of the current generation, albeit it's a bit rude.

>>17
Oh yes, I remember my consumer whores thread. It didn't get many posts, though. Those other threads are interesting, too.

>>20,21
Kind of the same thing I was thinking. We /lounge/rs must think alike.

>>23
No it's not a "legitimate critique". He's arbitrarily comparing us to older generations even though older generations fucking sucked and the suffering was not worth a few "best and brightest" managing to survive. He is all blustering hyperbole and banal observations. It is better to find yourself through reflection and peace than through war and millions dying pointlessly. It is better that people have confidence and the chance to be educated.
Almost all the "best and brightest" of previous generations came from wealthy, privileged backgrounds too. Now the common man has the luxury of self-worth and spare time and you tear him down for it?
This is the first time in history we've had the chance to find ourselves through methods other than pointless violence and poverty. Some of us are doing well in this environment. too bad you're not.
You only think the 90s music was superior because of nostalgic connection and the fact that the huge amounts of unbearable shit have been forgotten by the wider culture.

>>24
Oh yes, I remember my consumer whores thread. It didn't get many posts, though. Those other threads are interesting, too.

a shame really.

>>20
>>21
>>24
i think the problem is that we are barbarians, or atleast in some way we wish to be. humans generally have a natural urge towards aggressive behavior, which is suppressed in this society.
i agree with you on that we would make regressions if we would start with unreasonable barbaric behavior, but at some point the urge will simply be to strong.

i believe that we must take a leap forward in our evolution or else we will destroy ourselfs.

I don't entirely blame the OP for "bitching". It's to be expected during times of decline. I do feel as the OP does, having the gall to call this generation the "Lost Generation", when the original Lost Generation fought and died in World War I (know as the "War to end all wars" at that time).

Though, we may be heading into the first great war of the 21^st century, as there's a constant push for attacking Iran, and Great Depression II coming up will be a recipe for disaster. The idea of preemptive war will make this an inevitable reality, so the thought of that mankind no longer has to be concerned about big wars is not over in the least (and probably never will be).

As far as I know, there's never before in history been a time where there's a period of decline, while having some kind of phony standard of living at the same time. Of course that's because countries like China make cheap crap to keep it all propped up. I can't think of any historical period where the manufacturing of goods is in one area of the world, where its purpose is to be consumed in its entirety in another. Of course trade has always existed, but two (or more) nations always produced things the other one likes and vice-versa.

I can't really think of a solution to this, except wait it out, and be cautious. Oh, and don't play the stock market, it's a god damn rigged game.

>>25
He's arbitrarily comparing us to older generations even though older generations fucking sucked
And what's wrong with that?
He is all blustering hyperbole and banal observations.
Just as you are doing with his, sounds a bit hypocritical.
It is better to find yourself through reflection and peace than through war and millions dying pointlessly.
It is better that people have confidence and the chance to be educated.
I agree with this, but you cannot do such in a Wal-Mart, stocking shelves at two in the morning.
Almost all the "best and brightest" of previous generations came from wealthy, privileged backgrounds too.
Andrew Carnegie would like to have a word with you, Henry Ford, Herbert Hoover, Dwight D. Eisenhower. These men came from modest backgrounds, and were not considered "wealthy" in the least bit, until after they had achieved success.
Now the common man has the luxury of self-worth and spare time and you tear him down for it?
Nobody is tearing down anybody for anything. Where did you get this strange idea from?
This is the first time in history we've had the chance to find ourselves through methods other than pointless violence and poverty. Some of us are doing well in this environment. too bad you're not.
Read above.
You only think the 90s music was superior because of nostalgic connection and the fact that the huge amounts of unbearable shit have been forgotten by the wider culture.
I never said that, OP did.

>>25 and >>22, I agree with both of you.

In a sense, all of America has become "rich"; what we call "poor" in this country can afford to buy its children all kinds of stupid, useless gadgets and overpriced clothes. Not only is this a waste of goddamned resources, but it doesn't even make anyone happy.

>>25 is completely right in saying that this additional free time, combined with widespread access to personal computers and the internet, is giving many people the opportunity to do something useful with their lives.

The fact of the matter, unfortunately, is that most people aren't going to do anything useful with their free time. Does this mean we should take it away from them? No, for as >>25 as said, some of them will do something interesting. Those people who can't figure out how to turn their free time into something meaningful, however, are doomed to sad, boring, pointless existences. I think everyone goes through a phase like this, where they eventually realize that working just to see the weekend is a fucking pathetic way to live life. Consumer capitalism just exploits this hopelessness - if enough TV shows come out, if enough gadgets and fancy toys are made, it's ok, I can live to see Iron Man 3 or what-the-fuck-ever. Of course, I'm exaggerating a little, since no one actually goes out and says "life is worth living because of this TV show," but you can't deny that we're being made to think this way. The thing that defines is how and if they're able to resist it.

In the best kind of society:

People are given jobs that are fulfilling on some level by default. Anyone who has worked with their hands, even if it's just to, say, assemble the parts of a home computer that they purchased, can tell you that it feels good to create something tangible as a result of their labor. Given the right social context, even "demeaning, repetitive" jobs, such as those in factories, can be rewarding. All it takes is a line as simple as "Here, we are producing the trains that will connect our country" and the promise of a living to provide for one's family to motivate someone.

Kids should be working younger, and being given more difficult and more rewarding jobs. Where I live, many of the young adults of this generation graduate college without having worked a single day in their lives! The few that did have jobs were working in a fast food restaurant, and hated it. Kids aren't taught the value of hard work, and by the time they're old enough to start thinking about college, they think of any kind of manual labor as "grueling, backbreaking work, a hellish existence - I'm better than that!" The colleges are there to exploit this childish expectation that they'll all end up in some fantastic dream job, and before you know it, you have a bunch of arts and literature majors working at Starbucks, and a bunch of computer science majors working rent-a-coder positions at random businesses. Everyone's overqualified, everyone's unhappy, everyone's in debt - but hey, maybe I can become a high school teacher!

Wouldn't it have saved people some time to have given them some kind of real job from the beginning, while still allowing them the free time for our contemporary Asimovs and Tourings to flourish? All you have to do is provide people with computers and internet connections, they don't need stupid toys, and they don't need pointless entertainment made for them. Let them figure out how to spend their free time themselves.

People don't always know what's best for them until they're told to do it. The classic example is the kid that is disgusted by vegetables until his parents force him to eat them, after which he realizes that they are palatable or actually tasty. When you're a teenager and even a ways into young adulthood, you'll do all kinds of stupid things. Sure, they'll be wrong sometimes, but years later, we all have to face the moment when we realize that "hey, my parents knew what they were doing after all!" Unfortunately, this quality seems to continue on to adulthood - most people wouldn't realize why one way is better than another unless they were made to do it.
The way I see it, if you have to force people to live simplistically and work hard in order to get them to understand the benefit of it, there's nothing wrong with taking over some small aspects of life.

If no one takes charge of things here in America and forces this kind of immense social upheaval, the whole country is just going to rot in its own filth.

Stop making me depressed, OP.

>>29

True, but maybe what we need is a grand vision of the next step of human evolution.  Space.  Seriously, we need to strive for something, and scraping up enough fiat-paper to buy the latest iCrap is not it.  But something bigger than us -- moon colonies or mars or something? Yeah.  The discovery of the new world turned Europe on its ears.  Why couldn't a new age of colonization do the same?

>>18
What about the dissonance? Do they make you relaxed?

>>31
Good point.

>>31

You're right about trying setting a new goal for humanity, but I think we should perfect the civilization that we have on earth before we go around fucking up the rest of the universe. If we have problems now, spreading out can't be expected to help them.

If "space colonies" and whatnot become reality, it would be possible for small utopias to be created, with the amount of technology and philosophical insight available to us now, yes. However, we only have relative peace in modern times because of the consolidation of power - the major powers will never fight each other head-on, because it would mean destruction for all. When you start to spread across the universe, however, we regress back to the times when man hadn't conquered every square inch of the Earth, when traveling to the other side of the globe was, if it was possible at all, a matter of months or years, not hours. That is the point where things get dangerous, when those former world powers who, regardless of what we think of them, were interested in keeping relative peace, become powerless, when your little utopia CAN be raped and pillaged by whoever has bigger guns.

Comfort has to be abandoned to save humanity from decline!
Only the holy name of the state and the glorious system of fascism can save humanity!

>>35
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>>31
i agree with you, but space colonies is hardly the answer.

i think our future lies in the field of transhumanism(cybernetics? i dont really know how to call it.), its only at the beginning now and we can still achieve great things if not the greatest things ever in that field.
the idea of breaking the limits of our physical and mental self, that is much better then boring space colonies, wouldnt you say?

I'd love to fuck this generation! (18-25 year olds)

ME TOO!!!

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