Intelligence in males = disadvantage?

Although intelligence clearly has a demonstrable advantage in business (and for survival in general), intelligence in males has shown, by personal experience , to be a considerable disadvantage while seeking a mate. I am curious if this is indeed a universal truth, or merely a regional phenomenon?

I found a study performed by the Social Sciences department at the University of Bristol, which suggests a statistical 35% decrease in the likelihood of mating for each positive deviation increase in intelligence (16 IQ points). Thus in my case, this would reflect a 192.5% chance that I will never find a mate. It appears that in general, most women prefer men who are both dumb, and brutish.

This trend is probably instinctive, rooted deeply in an ancient evolutionary survival advantage; for if you mate with a strong brutish man, you will produce strong brutish offspring, those better able to survive. Logically, even today, this still makes evolutionary sense, for on the playground, as well as in adult life, the strong and ruthless are always in charge, and thus command majority control over all human wealth and resources. One never hears reports of dumb brutish kids (bullies) being picked on, or domineered by nerds!

So what is the general consensus out there? Is there really little hope for intelligent men?

You're not intelligent, just pretentious. The reason why you're single is probably because you're socially inept, not because of your intellect. Maybe if you got off your high horse and tried getting rid of your superiority complex then maybe people would like you more.

Ask yourself this, if you are such an fine, intelligent man, and every woman you lay eye on is a dumb wench, why can't you make an appearence as an attractive man?


Because intelligence =/= "socially inexperienced"

Hmmm interesting feedback.......but theres a rumor that goes like this, for every IQ point over 110 a man's chance to solidify a meaniful sexcapade decreases by almost 3 percent. Attraction is never black & white....it's counter-intuitive and falls into the grey area. Most Intelligent men cannot think in the grey zone.....there in lies the parodox. Mensa wannabe's extract knowledge from books n school. Not too many people teaching how to pick up women. Smart people are used to getting A's, hitting on women and one might get rejected and to an aspiring Eienstein, that rejection is a failure.....totally unacceptable.

It's only when the mind opens to free thinking does attraction have a chance.

E=MC2 but never leads to attraction.

>>1

You are a faggot. Suck some nigger dicks.

>>4
for every IQ point over 110 a man's chance to solidify a meaniful sexcapade decreases by almost 3 percent

Stop pulling figures out of your ass.

ITT FAGGOTS

>>3
Intelligence is a disadvantage to men when it comes to dating. Period.

>>8

No. Period.

1) Have Intelligence
2) Don't fap for a week or more
3) ????
4) Get girls
5) Profit!

Or:

1) Use your intelligence to succeed in Business
2) Profit!
3) Pay for your girls

According to Gene Expression, every IQ point above 100 increases the chance of virginity by 2.7% at age 19. Over 130, and your probably a virgin!
49% of MIT students=virgins.
45 of Harvard students=virgins.

Part of this is explained by, you guessed it, lower testosterone levels in men with higher IQs. 75-90 IQ range=highest levels of testosterone AND lowest rate of virginity. Smarter men are not any less attractive on average. They are less athletic, less socially aware, and generally more beta male. For me, the problem with my IQ is not my IQ itself-it's the mental illness that so strongly correlates with higher IQ individuals. I have severe OCD and have been hospitalized for depression. Talk about a game killer.

Women will always want a cave man. This is why rape is more or less a feminist invention in most cases. They don't want a gentleman-they want a moron. Remember, women fall into a more narrowly distributed range of IQ; there just aren't as many 130+ IQ women. Over 130 and you have a very serious disadvantage.

What smart guys need to do: help each other out. Encourage each other. Share tips. MAKE MONEY together. Women don't like high IQs, they like guys w/lots of money. Trust me, money never goes out of style. Go to Eastern Europe and party with beautiful women. Just bring cash. Same with Brazil.

>>12

That's why you don't fap for a week to make up for this lower testosterone

>>12
Stop making up statistics and blatantly lying. Stop bumping this thread, too.

Or read about using your high IQ to your advantage to get laid:

gunwitch.fastseduction.com

or look at this article: iqfacts.on.nimp.org

Just go gay

>>1
feminist troll.

This thread is full of fail, intelligence doesn't decrease your chance of getting girls if anything it should increase it. If you really were that intelligent you would realize you can turn that to your advantage instead of bitching.

  So what we have here isn't really comprehensive intelligence but selected aptitude at probably mathematics and the natural sciences. Nerds do not make intelligent people. Someone who's smart enough would have the foresight to realize one needs more then abstract qualities of thinking to get by in the world and even if he didn't have them, he would realize that and be able to take the steps to acquire them.

Dumb brutish kids also pack your bags for you at your local supermarket.

>>2
This has been a huge challenge for me. I'm so caught up in my head that i hardly know how to live from my heart. I'm serious, humorless, intellectual, stiff, and passionless. I do not express my emotions. No wonder i couldn't keep the latest SLUT interested in me over time. She told me i was "kinda stiff" and remarked several times that i never get angry with anyone. I hardly ever genuinely laugh and i can't remember the last time i wept uncontrollably. I'm emotionally flat when around other people. I'm great at feeling frustrated and getting pissed off when by myself, but, with women, i am hardly animated. All the worse, i can be self-conscious about it when around women. It's a huge issue and is definitely inhibiting my ability to excite women and have FUN with them (outside the bedroom). I suspect i'm not the only one like this on /lounge/...

    Although intelligence clearly has a demonstrable advantage in business (and for survival in general), intelligence in males has shown, by personal experience , to be a considerable disadvantage while seeking a mate. I am curious if this is indeed a universal truth, or merely a regional phenomenon?

    I found a study performed by the Social Sciences department at the University of Bristol, which suggests a statistical 35% decrease in the likelihood of mating for each positive deviation increase in intelligence (16 IQ points). Thus in my case, this would reflect a 192.5% chance that I will never find a mate. It appears that in general, most women prefer men who are both dumb, and brutish.

    This trend is probably instinctive, rooted deeply in an ancient evolutionary survival advantage; for if you mate with a strong brutish man, you will produce strong brutish offspring, those better able to survive. Logically, even today, this still makes evolutionary sense, for on the playground, as well as in adult life, the strong and ruthless are always in charge, and thus command majority control over all human wealth and resources. One never hears reports of dumb brutish kids (bullies) being picked on, or domineered by nerds!

    So what is the general consensus out there? Is there really little hope for intelligent men?

fail

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Omg hai ^___^ I’m Ai-san and I absolutely luuuv @_____@ anime <3 and my fav is Rucky Star!!! Okies so anyways, im going to tell you about the BEST day of my life when I met my hot waifu Konata!! <333333333 OMFGZ SHE WAS SOOOOO FREAKIN KAWAII IN PERSON!!! Supa kawaii desu!!!!!!!! ^______________________________________^

When I walked onto Tokyo street =^____^=I looked up and saw…KONATA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333!!!!
“ KONNICHIWA OMGZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ SUPA SUPA SUPA KAWAII KONATA-CHAN!!!!!” I yelled n____n then she turned chibi then un-chibi!!
she looked at me [:3] and then she saw how hot I am *___* she grabbed my hand and winked ~w^ then pulled me behind a pocky shop o_o and started to kiss me!!!!!! [OMG!!! HER TOUNGE TASTED LIKE CHOCOLATE CORNET!!! RLY!! >.> <.< >.< *(^O^)* *(^O^)* *(^O^)*] then I saw some baka fat fag watching us and I could tell he was undressing her with his eyes!!!!!!! [ -_____________-;;;;; OMG I COULDN’T BELIEVE IT EITHER!!! (ò_ó) (ò_ó) (ò_ó)] so I yelled “UH UH BAKA NEKO THAT’S MY GIRL WHY DON’T YOU GO HOOK UP WITH TSUKASA CAUSE KONATA-CHAN LOVES ME!!! (ò_ó)” then konata held me close =^____^= and said she would only ever love me and kissed me again!!!!!!! ** (*O*)/ then we went to her apartment and banged all night long and made 42 babies and they all became otaku!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nyaaaaa!!! (^________<)

Omg hai ^___^ I’m Ai-san and I absolutely luuuv @_____@ anime <3 and my fav is Rucky Star!!! Okies so anyways, im going to tell you about the BEST day of my life when I met my hot waifu Konata!! <333333333 OMFGZ SHE WAS SOOOOO FREAKIN KAWAII IN PERSON!!! Supa kawaii desu!!!!!!!! ^______________________________________^

When I walked onto Tokyo street =^____^=I looked up and saw…KONATA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333!!!!
“ KONNICHIWA OMGZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ SUPA SUPA SUPA KAWAII KONATA-CHAN!!!!!” I yelled n____n then she turned chibi then un-chibi!!
she looked at me [:3] and then she saw how hot I am *___* she grabbed my hand and winked ~w^ then pulled me behind a pocky shop o_o and started to kiss me!!!!!! [OMG!!! HER TOUNGE TASTED LIKE CHOCOLATE CORNET!!! RLY!! >.> <.< >.< *(^O^)* *(^O^)* *(^O^)*] then I saw some baka fat fag watching us and I could tell he was undressing her with his eyes!!!!!!! [ -_____________-;;;;; OMG I COULDN’T BELIEVE IT EITHER!!! (ò_ó) (ò_ó) (ò_ó)] so I yelled “UH UH BAKA NEKO THAT’S MY GIRL WHY DON’T YOU GO HOOK UP WITH TSUKASA CAUSE KONATA-CHAN LOVES ME!!! (ò_ó)” then konata held me close =^____^= and said she would only ever love me and kissed me again!!!!!!! ** (*O*)/ then we went to her apartment and banged all night long and made 42 babies and they all became otaku!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nyaaaaa!!! (^________<)

Omg hai ^___^ I’m Ai-san and I absolutely luuuv @_____@ anime <3 and my fav is Rucky Star!!! Okies so anyways, im going to tell you about the BEST day of my life when I met my hot waifu Konata!! <333333333 OMFGZ SHE WAS SOOOOO FREAKIN KAWAII IN PERSON!!! Supa kawaii desu!!!!!!!! ^______________________________________^

When I walked onto Tokyo street =^____^=I looked up and saw…KONATA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333!!!!
“ KONNICHIWA OMGZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ SUPA SUPA SUPA KAWAII KONATA-CHAN!!!!!” I yelled n____n then she turned chibi then un-chibi!!
she looked at me [:3] and then she saw how hot I am *___* she grabbed my hand and winked ~w^ then pulled me behind a pocky shop o_o and started to kiss me!!!!!! [OMG!!! HER TOUNGE TASTED LIKE CHOCOLATE CORNET!!! RLY!! >.> <.< >.< *(^O^)* *(^O^)* *(^O^)*] then I saw some baka fat fag watching us and I could tell he was undressing her with his eyes!!!!!!! [ -_____________-;;;;; OMG I COULDN’T BELIEVE IT EITHER!!! (ò_ó) (ò_ó) (ò_ó)] so I yelled “UH UH BAKA NEKO THAT’S MY GIRL WHY DON’T YOU GO HOOK UP WITH TSUKASA CAUSE KONATA-CHAN LOVES ME!!! (ò_ó)” then konata held me close =^____^= and said she would only ever love me and kissed me again!!!!!!! ** (*O*)/ then we went to her apartment and banged all night long and made 42 babies and they all became otaku!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nyaaaaa!!! (^________<)

Omg hai ^___^ I’m Ai-san and I absolutely luuuv @_____@ anime <3 and my fav is Rucky Star!!! Okies so anyways, im going to tell you about the BEST day of my life when I met my hot waifu Konata!! <333333333 OMFGZ SHE WAS SOOOOO FREAKIN KAWAII IN PERSON!!! Supa kawaii desu!!!!!!!! ^______________________________________^

When I walked onto Tokyo street =^____^=I looked up and saw…KONATA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333!!!!
“ KONNICHIWA OMGZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ SUPA SUPA SUPA KAWAII KONATA-CHAN!!!!!” I yelled n____n then she turned chibi then un-chibi!!
she looked at me [:3] and then she saw how hot I am *___* she grabbed my hand and winked ~w^ then pulled me behind a pocky shop o_o and started to kiss me!!!!!! [OMG!!! HER TOUNGE TASTED LIKE CHOCOLATE CORNET!!! RLY!! >.> <.< >.< *(^O^)* *(^O^)* *(^O^)*] then I saw some baka fat fag watching us and I could tell he was undressing her with his eyes!!!!!!! [ -_____________-;;;;; OMG I COULDN’T BELIEVE IT EITHER!!! (ò_ó) (ò_ó) (ò_ó)] so I yelled “UH UH BAKA NEKO THAT’S MY GIRL WHY DON’T YOU GO HOOK UP WITH TSUKASA CAUSE KONATA-CHAN LOVES ME!!! (ò_ó)” then konata held me close =^____^= and said she would only ever love me and kissed me again!!!!!!! ** (*O*)/ then we went to her apartment and banged all night long and made 42 babies and they all became otaku!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nyaaaaa!!! (^________<)

Omg hai ^___^ I’m Ai-san and I absolutely luuuv @_____@ anime <3 and my fav is Rucky Star!!! Okies so anyways, im going to tell you about the BEST day of my life when I met my hot waifu Konata!! <333333333 OMFGZ SHE WAS SOOOOO FREAKIN KAWAII IN PERSON!!! Supa kawaii desu!!!!!!!! ^______________________________________^

When I walked onto Tokyo street =^____^=I looked up and saw…KONATA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333!!!!
“ KONNICHIWA OMGZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ SUPA SUPA SUPA KAWAII KONATA-CHAN!!!!!” I yelled n____n then she turned chibi then un-chibi!!
she looked at me [:3] and then she saw how hot I am *___* she grabbed my hand and winked ~w^ then pulled me behind a pocky shop o_o and started to kiss me!!!!!! [OMG!!! HER TOUNGE TASTED LIKE CHOCOLATE CORNET!!! RLY!! >.> <.< >.< *(^O^)* *(^O^)* *(^O^)*] then I saw some baka fat fag watching us and I could tell he was undressing her with his eyes!!!!!!! [ -_____________-;;;;; OMG I COULDN’T BELIEVE IT EITHER!!! (ò_ó) (ò_ó) (ò_ó)] so I yelled “UH UH BAKA NEKO THAT’S MY GIRL WHY DON’T YOU GO HOOK UP WITH TSUKASA CAUSE KONATA-CHAN LOVES ME!!! (ò_ó)” then konata held me close =^____^= and said she would only ever love me and kissed me again!!!!!!! ** (*O*)/ then we went to her apartment and banged all night long and made 42 babies and they all became otaku!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nyaaaaa!!! (^________<)

Omg hai ^___^ I’m Ai-san and I absolutely luuuv @_____@ anime <3 and my fav is Rucky Star!!! Okies so anyways, im going to tell you about the BEST day of my life when I met my hot waifu Konata!! <333333333 OMFGZ SHE WAS SOOOOO FREAKIN KAWAII IN PERSON!!! Supa kawaii desu!!!!!!!! ^______________________________________^

When I walked onto Tokyo street =^____^=I looked up and saw…KONATA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333!!!!
“ KONNICHIWA OMGZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ SUPA SUPA SUPA KAWAII KONATA-CHAN!!!!!” I yelled n____n then she turned chibi then un-chibi!!
she looked at me [:3] and then she saw how hot I am *___* she grabbed my hand and winked ~w^ then pulled me behind a pocky shop o_o and started to kiss me!!!!!! [OMG!!! HER TOUNGE TASTED LIKE CHOCOLATE CORNET!!! RLY!! >.> <.< >.< *(^O^)* *(^O^)* *(^O^)*] then I saw some baka fat fag watching us and I could tell he was undressing her with his eyes!!!!!!! [ -_____________-;;;;; OMG I COULDN’T BELIEVE IT EITHER!!! (ò_ó) (ò_ó) (ò_ó)] so I yelled “UH UH BAKA NEKO THAT’S MY GIRL WHY DON’T YOU GO HOOK UP WITH TSUKASA CAUSE KONATA-CHAN LOVES ME!!! (ò_ó)” then konata held me close =^____^= and said she would only ever love me and kissed me again!!!!!!! ** (*O*)/ then we went to her apartment and banged all night long and made 42 babies and they all became otaku!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nyaaaaa!!! (^________<)

Nah dude i agree 100%, actually had a conversation on this exact topic yesterday with a buddy of mine.

I disagree, actually I had a conversation about this monday with a buddy of mine.

i too am a genius

hey OP, that's nonsense.  It takes brains to figure out how to trick sluts out of their panties - most of the dumb guys do what every other moron has been socially conditioned to do, which is empty their pockets and kiss ass and waste countless hours and hours trying to get laid.  Smart guys know to not waste time chasing girls that think their pussy is made of gold.  And these little teen-whores always end up looking like something my cat puked up by the age of 25, so you don't want to waste your time and effort anyways on most of them.

Most of the 'bullies' are that way because their parents are abusive or neglectful or something like that.  You should feel sorry for them, because they almost always end up in a real bad place by the time they hit 30, like selling mortgages or insurance or working in some shit-hole factory putting bolt-A into nut-B all fucking day long, or maybe something real fun like roofing or construction labour.  I am 32, and I've seen this first-hand in all the 'tuff guy' losers that I've happened to run into since I left highschool. 

The only people I've seen from my HS that have something to live for are the guys that went to school to learn, not socialize.  And what's even funnier is that the tuff guys working shit jobs always always always have kids by this age, with an ungrateful pig of a woman at home who spends every last hard-earned cent, whereas the few people with brains have things like paid-for houses and cars and a booty-call list of easy sluts that know to leave immediately once you shoot your wad in their face.

The reason that study your talking about says what it does is because SMART people actually end up having something called a CAREER, which means not too much spare time to have a committed relationship.  Smart people have other aspirations beyond following the social conditioning that says you have to get married and have kids asap.  Doesn't mean you won't get laid by random sluts.  Trust me, you never ever want to have a 'girlfriend', or at least you don't want one for longer than it takes you to ejaculate in her mouth.

Just keep your head down in school, it'll be over soon enough and then none of the social bullshit will matter anyways.  The next time you see any 'tuff guys' or 'dumb guys' will be when they're waxing your car or shining your shoes or serving your big-mac, or maybe working on your roof in 110 degree heat while you sip a drink and laugh from a nice chair in the shade.

>>34

sounds like the american dream..

The good news is that I know divorced and nevermarried men of 50 that are extremely successful both financially and personally who pull tail more in their 40's and 50's than they did in their 20's or 30's because they made this connection. They matured and are benefiting from this wisdom and understanding of how to employ it. The bad news is I also know several 60+ year old men who are still AFCs, both divorced and married, who will never break this internalization and continue in making women a criteria for personal success, affirmation and fulfilment. Nothing is to be more pitied than the financially successful 65 y.o. man who still chases after women, seeking their approval, putting them on the pedestal they've belonged on for decades, who've made women the PRIZE and have him tell you, "Women, eh? I guess us men will never understand 'em."

>>38
hoaw dar f*ck didja do thart?

>>38
: 2007-06-30 13:14 ID:Heaven

ottow/

People tend to go for someone who shares their level of intelligence, the further you deviate from that, the harder it'll be for you to find someone compatible. Nothing more to it. Besides, I doubt you're really as smart as you think you are.

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>>45
Hahah now it all makes sense, since women are dumb bitches.

>>4
>>1
>>12
Stop pulling figures out of your ass.

Fucking faggot.

you guys are fuckin dicks man

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Having a high IQ is a pain in the ass. I wish I born average.

>>53
stick a fork in your brain

>>1
It doesn't have to be that way, come to http://www.stormfront.org -- we can help.

>>53
But if you have, you could be artist(novelist, musican, director).

>>53
But if you have, you could be artist(novelist, musican, director).

And you could get a lot of money.
Yes i know money is not for all.
But it is Most important thing for woman and children.
Money can solve almost problem in the world.
a Intelligence man definitily make up IT more than a lot of strong brutish men!

if You be intelligence, that is the most happy thing you have.

if you are intelligence, you could be artist(novelist, musican, director).

>>60
It's a tough trade

1) Use your intelligence to make a shitload of money
2) Use the money to pay for a vacation to Amsterdam, Prague, Thailand, Russia..
3) ???
4) Enjoy!

Hey faggots.

My name is Anonymous and I hate every last one of you.
>>45
Wrong. I've had (and currently have) female companionship of a decidedly lower IQ than myself, and it matters not a jot. All this talk of "Oh women don't want someone who is clever, they want a caveman" is 1; not true, and 2; a FUCKING OBVIOUS pointer.
Just because you have half a brain does not mean you are set aside from acting alpha male around a woman. You can use your intelligence as part of your superiority. Just don't act like a faggot, and it doesn't matter that she won't get half your jokes. My girlfriend doesn't understand hardly anything I sau that is over three sylables. She isn't completely stupid, but is rather uneducated (there is a difference; any fool parrot can learn a load of facts and long words).

Oh yeah, don't be an ugly cunt too. I get the feeling that most "intelligent" men whining about this are fucking quasimodo style monsters. The ok looking ones don't even come anywhere near these surveys. Of course, good looking dumbasses would - these are the sort of people who stop in the street when someone with a clipboard talks to them...just like the intelligent beta male who can't believe that hot babe with the clipboard wants to talk to them.
You are all faggots who should kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.