The answer to whats after death

I figured out whats after death. Exactly what was before life when you werent alive (or born yet). Even if you believe in reincarnation or spiritual forms anyways, you don't remember it and those experiences are wiped regardless. You might as well not have existed in the first place.

I am rapidly beginning to dislike you.

Disregard that, I suck cocks.

>>1
What if a past version of yourself is reincarnated. Is it you?

>>2


Same here.

>>1 GTFO

>>1

Until your molecules form part again of another living thing, yes, your rational existance will be wiped probably.

Hey, this is a good thread, I was thinking the same thing the other day.

>>1
Too bad it doesn't work that way.

Funny how the soul remembers everything, or is able to access everything perhaps.

>>1

YOU RUINED MY TURKEY YOU LITTLE SHIT

Funny how you all think a soul is given. What proof do you have besides your pathetic little religious books written by under educated old men trying to gain political control over peon piss ants? Opium induced no doubt. Is it because your mommy told you  there was one? This fallacious crap is the plague of man and mankind's greatest folly. Even if your soul supposedly contains all of the information its experienced I ask you this: What is the point if the information is never accessable to you? If this is true how would anyone know how the fuck that is possible? You can't make wild acusations about how things work. "Oh it happens but you can't remember it". Bull shit, then it might as well have never happened.

Don't give me that "faith" shit either, faith is for shit eating retarded baby ass hats. I hate retards not understanding how the universe works and then those individuals blame it on something super natural. All through mankind this bullshit has been fed down like govment cheese. I find it funny that we laugh at old religions and think 'ours' are superior when they are no different. The universe has rules and works like a mechanism, just like every computer, and just like every biomechanical individual known as you and me. Id like you to prove otherwise because you can't.

I do believe that what happens once does have the possibility of happening again (although it doesn't have to). So... given that, reincarnation, or rebirth is possible on that account. I personally believe that this most likely would mean that some individual is born with your same genetics. However, even if you are reincarnated in the traditional sense... All your old memories, thoughts, and feelings are erased. You can tell yourself whatever you would like about the afterlife but I'm sure of one thing, death is the end of your character in the story of life. Thusly reincarnation is pointless in its existance or not. Its a sad world that life would just end and thats it... but when has life ever been fair? Think its fair to the cows slaughtered for our food? We are machines that simply interpret experiences, stimuli, programming, and chemicals and try to make sense of them and spread like any other animal and to an extent baceria.

Although intelligence is rare, it's not a pass to be different from any other animal.

>>9
4chan is 18+ only.

Do a barrel roll if you are 18-.

Souls don't exist.

Amen

>>13
>>9

You are such a tool. Souls don't exist? How will you prove they don't exist? This "the shadow govrnmetn haxxed acces to my brain :(((" isn't gonna make it out on top of all the other billions of conspiracy theories.

How far are you going to go for this "human machine" nonsense you speak of? Are you saying that a dead man can be brought back from death and continue to function as a human being from there on? If he is a machine he shuld be able to be dismembered and then reconstructed to live once again if done correctly, right?

They can be fool. Explain why you can do arm or flace transplants? If you could regenerate all their body parts then they would come back to life. Its that simple. A human body is nothing but a bunch of chemicals reacting together like gears in a machine. These parts get old, fall apart, and then people die. If you can replace the parts then they continue to work. I don't know why thats so hard to understand.

Souls don't exist. My proof is that they arent here and you have no proof. If I said theres an invisible floating dinosaur in the sky but its magic and humans cant detect it... how are you going to prove me wrong? I should have to prove such a rediculous claim. This applies to your claim of having a soul.

SOULS EXIST BECAUSE GANTZ EXISTS, WHEN YOU DIE YOU GET TELEPORTED INTO A BLACK BALL ROOM WITH SEXY LADYS WITH BIG TITS, GET HANDED GUNS AND GET TOLD TO SHOOT SHIT UP OR YOU DIE

in all seriousness i died in my past life... if the detailed dreams ive been having are true, seeing and being a part of a new family being Loli age, and a loli myself, i died.. its weird because i remember stuff so clearly

disturbs me knowing someone killed me in my past life

>>17

What's worse is that it didn't even happen

Psychics blow and so do past lives. Theres no memory hidden in your brain... where would it come from? lol

>>10
So why are you here.
>>14
Good luck doing that correctly downsy.

DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS

Posers are funny =p
#20: I like how you assume that because we can't do it now that its impossible. Anything that happens in nature can be duplicated somehow :p that or it wouldnt happen.

dear "LordRiordan"

please GTFO.

thank you,

Anon

Psychics raped my mother!

and it was GOOD
baochicka baowow

>>22
OH YEAH MAN LIKE THIS ONE TIME I SAW A WILD COMPUTER GET TORN APART AND THEN A REPAIR BUG CAME AND PUT IT BACK TOGETHER IT WAS RAD

At least LordRiordan is relating facts, unlike you whiners with your 'GTFO's and Junk science, not to mention the 'I remember my past life' crowd.  Face up to it - take it like a man - there's nothing after the big D.

Your awareness begins when you're born, and memories start forming some time after. The concept of a soul is that along with our physical bodies, we have some sort of oogly googly spiritual body, that during this life either is our awareness, or is a seperate awareness, or perhaps only operates as a sort of subconscious during life. When we die, or before we were born, this "spirit" remembers everything it has learned in past lives, or perhaps it discards those memories. That's my understanding of what is meant by a soul.

Now, it's all imaginary, but so is the idea that there's just nothing after death. All that is is a conclusion based on lack of evidence. In old, old times, people didn't know much about brains, and some societies thought that the heart was the main organ for higher thought processes. This was also a conclusion based on lack of evidence; it's just what people felt at the time, as they didn't have the tools to investigate that we do now. We'll never have the tools to investigate what happens to one's awareness after death - if you're just gone forever or if your essence is absorbed by some eldritch, unimaginable monster outside of space and time where some small part of you might live on deep within its mind, ever so slowly being corrupted and ingested for sustenance.

What if dreams are made from past lives HMMMM?I don't see why that's impossible seeing as how some dreams are things you've never seen before in your life and seem totally foreign.

While we're on this subject,how about we discuss GAWD?OBVIOUSLY HE CAN'T EXIST BECAUSE RIORDAN SAYS SO.

Anonymous is NOT impressed.

>>30
Muppet
>>29
Puppet

Use your brains people.  Death = the end.

>>31
All that "energy" wasted.
Wouldn't it be more efficient to recyle it and continue using it instead of cutting it off?

>>29
Dreams couldn't be our past lives because I dreamt I was running away from a bowling ball upside down, and everything else was white... in conclussion, I like pie

death probably = oblivion, unconsciousness of some sorts

However there is a lot we don't know about the nature of sentience, something is going on, but it is arrogant for anyone to claim to know the answer without rational proof. Religions are all false.

What's after death? Usually a funeral.

Next!

but it is arrogant for anyone to claim to know the answer without rational proof

Religions are all false.

That's funny.

DEATH IS ONLY THE BEGINNING.

>>36
lmao, nice catch.

Souls do not exist.  Period.  Scientists have created artificial brains.  So far, the only completely successful experiments have been with a few dozen cells at once, but there is already a group working on recreating a lab rat's brain from scratch, due within three years.

Mankind (well, the specifically trained fraction of it, at least) already has a solid basis on how the brain and nervous system functions.  The major hurdles now are merely in the huge numbers of cells and exactly how they form their vast networks, and computers are making these hurdles shrink rapidly.  Full maps, working models, and artificial human brains are expected (not accounting for the increasing destructive pressure from religious groups) within a mere ten to twelve years.  Combine that with a complete understanding of the human genome within eight to ten years and you get some interesting results from made to order babies to cures for every inherited disease.

Souls don't exist.  Read some recent neuroscience texts and come to terms with the fact that the human body basically runs on chemicals and electricity.  We are biological machines and no one's yet proven anything paranormal/supernatural.  Ever.  Hence the name.

End rant that got a bit off topic.

Wieners! Wieners! Wieners! Put 'em in your mouth!

>>39
Thank you ever so much for making that decision for me. The church has falling behind lately on telling me what to think and i'm obliged to you for trying to fill the gap.

What is truth?

Truth is a goddamned lie.

ek? if i was science, by definition it wouldnt be supernatural, rtard

>>42
I live in a cardboard box.

>>39
I've been rumored about a possible "God Module", a part of the brain evolutionarily engineered to believe in a higher being. It's like the bizarro version of the gay gene. What can this mean for the philosophy of humankind?

Truth is in the eye of the beholder... mearly everyone's opinion. We may see the color blue but that is only our brain's opinion on the light waves we interpret.

Life is abstract because we have tiny brains compared to the complexity of the universe. This is why I doubt opium influenced polititions of 2000 years ago+ know the answer to lifes greatest secrets.

>>42
Spooken like a true crystal waving liberal. And just who was it you were asking to damn the truth??

So basically this is just a piss-wank thread that has everyone forcing their (religious) opinions on each other.

Congraulations.

Typo.

lol LordRiordan still thinking about opinions. Duh, everyone knows that nothing is absolutely certain and our perceptions are imperfect. In order to have any sort of discourse at all you must accept certain basic assumptions, though. Otherwise you should just go meditate in a cave by yourself.

There is no god, therefore there are no souls.

I do believe that humanity does not exist.IN FACT,DID YOU KNOW THE WORD "EXISTENCE" WAS MADE BY A CAVEMAN OR EVOLUTION OF SUCH?

50: Yea, it's still an opinion shared by someone, else it wouldn't exist as an idea. Accepting basic assumptions doesn't negate an idea or 'facts' true form, which is that of an opinion.

51: Depends on your definition of God. There must be a 'creator' of the universe whether or not it is a force of nature or a 'being'. Either concept brings the question "Then what caused those forces" which brings you to the concept that 'it just is'. It would be funny if we are a computer simulation as that would explain it. :p

"Just is" is a funny concept because it sort of destroys the whole 'circle of life' idea that has been common sense. It shows that there isn't necessarily a 'beginning' nor 'end' which would further the idea that people or animals are pointless in existance. It kind of also feeds other theories such as an infinite universe or infinite span of time. Humans tend to categorize and generalize information which may not actually exist (such as calendar time).

52: Humanity exists around you. The second sentence doesn't make much sense to me but I think you are wrong.

45: I mentioned this earlier but your brain tries to make sense of almost everything... nature of the beast. Most things are far too complex for the average brain to comprehend and it most likely has some sort of fallback logic based on prior knowledge passed down by heritage (most likely religious things people make up to control other people) when it can't make sense of something (hence the millions of superstitions around). I believe these are defense mechanisms in order to help protect one's identity and self given purpose in order to satisfy the condition of wanting to keep breathing or to justify or excuse their existance.

Typoed my name LOLZ

I'd like to see anyone prove religion isn't the same as any other political movement... The only difference between religion and politic is that religion hides behind people's superstitious tendencies due to the reasons I explained in my above post.

Face it, they are the same thing. Someone that wants control of people and want people to act in a way they see best fit(or are derranged and actually believe in their superstition... which I can't really conciously relate to) makes up some philosophical booklet and passes it around like gospel and absolute truth. Look at any culture and you will find this to be true. Japanese... greek... muslim... american... It goes on. The similarities are amaizing and most individuals who can't see this are in denial... thats my conclusion after hearing the 'have faith' argument a million times or fall back on illogical defense mechanisms that are just laughable and pathetic.

Re 51: I also forgot to mention your logic is fallacious logic when I digressed. If there is no god, it doesn't have to mean there are no souls.

Re: 51... I also forgot to mention your statement is fallacious before I sort of digressed. One doesn't have to lead to the other.

Japan? OMFG. You lucky... They have certain flowers in Japan that are absolutely gorgeous that you should check out. They only grow in that region I believe. Lots of things in Japan, it's an entirely different society.

Re: 55 and 56

... Wondering why my post didnt show up until I cleared out my cache :p Excuse my double post.

>>11
*barrel rolls*

>>58
FAIL

ITS OVER NIIIIINE THOUSAND BARREL ROLLS

>>57
Please tell me more

The similarities are amaizing and most individuals who can't see this are in denial... thats my conclusion after hearing the 'have faith' argument a million times or fall back on illogical defense mechanisms that are just laughable and pathetic.
what

Humanity exists around you. The second sentence doesn't make much sense to me but I think you are wrong.
it's just as planned

Humans tend to categorize and generalize information which may not actually exist (such as calendar time).
wrong, without the generalizaton of time we'd still be living in tight knit inbred groups of families. The reason people have different view as what time constantly takes the form as varies and is never finite.



It's funny we never get any visits from outer space anymore

Re: 62

What - In most instances when I have a good conversation with some religious person they fall back on illogical defense mechanisms or respond with 'just have faith'.

Last part - You admited they generalize information and months and days do not actually 'exist' but are measurements.

LordRiordan must feel inferior and weak.
He cannot prove himself anything else than a hypocrite.
I mentioned this earlier but your brain tries to make sense of almost everything... nature of the beast. Most things are far too complex for the average brain to comprehend and it most likely has some sort of fallback logic based on prior knowledge passed down by heritage (most likely religious things people make up to control other people) when it can't make sense of something (hence the millions of superstitions around). I believe these are defense mechanisms in order to help protect one's identity and self given purpose in order to satisfy the condition of wanting to keep breathing or to justify or excuse their existance.
Pretty much proves it.

The Creator is a God whatever meaningless attributes you feel like giving it.

What the fuck are you talking about? I don't see a hypocritical statement in there. I said that when the brain can't understand something it makes up falls back on some stupid defense mechanism.

Don't be a tool.

Exactly, don't fool yourself into believing all that unsupported bullcrap you spout.

What fallacious defense mechanism am I falling back on then? It's not bullshit, you aren't even offering an argument.

[i]I mentioned this earlier but your brain tries to make sense of almost everything... nature of the beast. Most things are far too complex for the average brain to comprehend and it most likely has some sort of fallback logic based on prior knowledge passed down by heritage (most likely religious things people make up to control other people) when it can't make sense of something (hence the millions of superstitions around). I believe these are defense mechanisms in order to help protect one's identity and self given purpose in order to satisfy the condition of wanting to keep breathing or to justify or excuse their existance.[/]
*sigh* You're a little dense aren't you? :/ I just pointed out it's this whole post and you still don't get it.

making sense of this thread makes my defence organisms tell me to masterbate. fast as hell

Re: 68

Try explaining yourself. I don't know if you noticed this, but not everyone has the same thought processes as you do. No one is a fucking mind reader, explain what the hell you are talking about and how you got your ill-thought pompous argument. :p

>>1 Corollary: People with very late stage Alzheimers' are essentially "dead".

>>39 Feh. The soul is the effect of complexity, one might argue, so that to have a complex mechanism and produce the powers of decision-making is to bestow a soul upon the complex mechanism. The soul is intertwined with chemicals and electricity, and artificial brains will have souls, just as natural ones do, because of their complexity and their abilities.

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