I finally figured out the secret to women

I was in the shower today, and it finally hit me. I've been going about this all wrong. My attitude towards women, the way I treat them, the way I go about hitting on them, everything.

What people were all saying was right. Nice guys don't win. Self confidence is all that matters. I finally realized, there probably isn't a single woman in history who ever picked a guy for the reason "well, he was nicer to me than all the other guys." That's not how women think.

So how are you supposed to go about it? I think the key of course is self confidence, but if you're not really confident, what is the best way to fake it?

That's when I had an epiphany and I think the answer is, just act as if they rejecting you will be a bigger loss for them than it is for you. And the key to accomplishing this is:

NEVER GO OUT OF YOUR WAY TO DO ANYTHING NICE FOR WOMEN. NEVER.

Women expect men to be insensitive, lazy pigs. If you're going out of your way to be nice to her, that is a clear sign of desperation and that you are trying "earn" her affection.
NEVER LET A WOMAN KNOW THAT YOU ARE BEING NICE TO EARN HER AFFECTION.

So the thing to do is to be a "normal" man. That is, you are occasionally nice to a woman because you have no other choice(ie it's her birthday, it's your anniversary, etc), not because you want to.

So what do you guys think? Am I right in all of this?

How the are you supposed to discuss how a woman think when you're obviously a man?
 
And no. I think you are way out of track. Other than the self confidence. You can't fake that. If you don't have it. you lose.

If a woman doesn't like nice man, she never got hurted before.
Trust me please I know what I'm talking about.

Stay who you are and be confident.

>>1
as a woman (well, i think i qualify since i am no longer a teenager) i would say there is truth in what this person says.

being nice per se is not a bad thing, it's wimpiness and desperation that is bad. sometimes, they correlate. sometimes they don't.

now the key here, is to have charisma. you can be a bland in appearance, ugly even, but if you've got a powerful personality, people in general will just gravitate to you. being nice is a very good thing, but in no way makes up for lack of confidence, self assurance and an ability to hold a conversation..

>>1
Make her a spaghetti necklace.

>>4
How do you develop a personality?

>>6
Level your speachcraft.

>>1
Women are whores.

>>6
there's no way of specifically developing a personality but ask yourself, what makes a good personality?

I loev prostitution

women should be raped.

Faggotry is superiour !
Women love is inferiour !

We should fuck women for reproduction only, not for pleasure, not for intimate bonding and what not.

The Greeks figured it out several thousand years ago and they were very superiour at that time.

>>1
Does saying "I'm here because I need to make money" make for a job interview full of win? Obviously not. There's no point in dragging up the age old nice-guy vs asshole debate, or the dumb crap that most 'dating advice' sites that convince you that women are retarded shallow animated blowupdolls and that the best solution is to pretend not to be an asshole (you'll notice most of these site assume you are an asshole by default, which says something, possibly that 'nice guys' are either not interested in the advice, or don't need it) by being a manipulative asshole.
Find people who share your interests, in lifestyle/hobbies/kinkyfetishes/whatever, who happen to be women, rather than just approach everything you see that has breasts and see if it likes you.

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BLAHBLAHBLAH HHUURRRRRRRRRRR *DROOOL*

That seems about right. I've never known a girl that didn't find weakness to be a turn off. Girls like a guy that can stand on their own. Its the kind of strong-willed guy that they like that seems to vary a lot.

^I was talking about the self-confidence part. Some girls like nice guys, just not the nice guys that back down from every problem that gets thrown at them.

>>1
Yeah, you pretty much got it right.  You know that saying, "why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?"  A girl won't bother getting into a relationship with you if you're being nice to her already.  Why should she?  You're already waiting on her hand and foot in many cases. 

But keep the damn secret to yourself.  There's too few hot, single women out there already. 

>> rather than just approach everything you see that has breasts and see if it likes you.

That's why so many men fail constantly. They have very simple standards. If it has breasts it's worth a shot. And so women are just as stupid. If the guy has confidence and money, it's worth it to give him a chance. It doesn't matter how he/she treats you, she has breasts/he has money and confidence. If we can bear with their faults and get money/breasts in return, good enough. Until they dump your ass that is.

You all fail because you date so many losers because all you need is that criteria (and decent looks) to be filled. It's all about what you can get from them when it should be about how they treat you.

>>1
You lie. You, like all men were an ass to begin with, and made this story up to cover for that fact.

>>18
Mmm... delicious flat manass

>>1
there probably isn't a single woman in history who ever picked a guy for the reason "well, he was nicer to me than all the other guys." That's not how women think.
That's now hot women think, nor anything else is, because they are irrational beings.

Women are still in the prehistoric ages where the strongest jerk would hit their heads with a club and drag them by their hair to their cave for a fuck. That's the kind of guys they like, and that's as deep as they can get.

Unfortunately, some guys are no longer savages, and they are suffering because of it.

>>20
I am about to make my first serious post here... or am I ? I don't know !!! So, anyway

I think that human society is schizophrenic, trying to be all nice and civilised while it is really not, the nice and civilised part is just a facade, an act and some less socially bright people might actually take that facade at face value, like I once use to.

Haha wow! It all makes sense now, I'm going to go out and slap the first women I see across the face with my cock.

There's really no big secret to getting girls. All you have to do is have the confidence to say what you think and feel and not to care about looking like an idiot. IF you bullshit it they'll smell it and you'll lose. In other words, in most cases, they can tell if you're making an effort to try and get them to like you, and that is what never works. If you are genuinely a nice guy some girls will go for that. But if you're jsut being nice because you want ass they'll see right through it.

>>13
Is a girl.

>>24
Lulz. There aren't any girls on the internets! But srsly, I'm a just a guy with an IQ above 80. Just because you want to have sex with somone, doesn't mean you should discount the fact that they have a mind of their own, with all the same thoughts and feelings you can have. Of course, your brilliant conclusion that I am female leads me to beleive that I'm wasting my time. "But if you're jsut being nice because you want ass they'll see right through it." - You can fool everyone some of the time. They may or may not see through it, and this is essentially the advice offered by most dating tips sites, since it assumed that if you have a penis, you also have the personality of wallpaper, and really just want to sit in a pool of your own greasy sweat all day watching football, occasionally getting up to have sex.

>>25
Football? Why the hell would anyone watch football when you have the internet?  The rest is true though

>>22
This works. I guarantee it.

>>13

GTFO FAG

Women like to be beaten.

>>1

I read this thread because I thought you were going to say something stupid, and I was hoping to laugh.  But you are actually correct, mostly, and your epiphany was a true one.  Damn you for not making me laugh.

Oh yeah, you said there has probably never been a woman who has chosen a man because he is nicer.  That is wrong.  It does happen.... but very rarely.

>>25
they have a mind of their own,
Yeah, they have a brand-new mind. I wonder when they are going to start using it. For now you look up "shallow" in a dictionary and it comes with a picture of a girl with this stupid "I love you Brad" face. Women are so shallow and idiotic it's sad. All they care for is gang shit, loud shit, stupid clothes, and how to steal their girl friends' boyfriends by being skanky than Britney Spears.

it assumed that if you have a penis, you also have the personality of wallpaper
I don't agree with this. Most guys are far more rational, sensitive and deep than girls. This includes heterosexual guys like me. Compared to guys, girls are just clueless about love. For them, love is like a social game of run and catch and have her friend see her fucking some gang. This is why straight guys suffer; they have it hard to find a rational, loving counterpart.


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This is true. Girls think guys who beat them are cool guys with some problems they need to change, and deep down inside they love and care for them. They have a masochistic fetish probably out of their sheer lack of brain power.

You know, I just had a girl break up with me a lil over a month ago. Now she told me it was because she didn't love me. What was weird is that she told me she did, apparently everything she did was to make me happy. Now I got to thinking and asking what the hell I did wrong. Sure I can accept that one sided loves never work, but then I thought about all the things we did do and all the kindnesses I paid to her. She hated all of them. I would hold the door open, carry her over puddles, stupid little gentlemmen type shit like that, and she hated it. What's worse it that I was willing to give up anything for her. Now there is a part of me that figures that is what drove her away (even though she said she wanted to be friends with me still) is what I was willing to do for her.

"A woman can forgive a man for the harm he does her but she can never forgive him for the sacrifices he makes on her account." -Somerset Maugha

This Somerset Maugha was smart. I'd add: A woman can get turned on at a man for all the harm he does.

>>32

Some girls just like having a boyfriend.  It doesn't always matter who.  I friend of mine from college chose her boyfriend because he was rich, stable, and intelligent.  She felt those were very compatible traits with hers.  (She wasn't money grubbing, she colud do well on her own.  It was an issue of being with somebody who's got similar position and situation.)

>>31

SO TRUE!!!!  I think the golden age for women will come to a close in a few years.  The time has not yet come, but more people are starting to open their eyes and see that women can be seriously vicious bitches.

For the last 20 years or so, I feel there has been an assumption that men are shallow, liars, with no intelligent reason behind their actions.  Soon the world shall see that women are vindictive and shallow as fucking hell.  Truly, THEY are the ones with no brains.  And soon it will be women who are endlessly picked at on sitcoms for being dumb, materialistic, shallow cunts.  I am sick of all this shit about equality and woman power.  FUCK THAT!!!! I was born in 1982!  In the world >>I<< lived in, it has always been MEN that have been discriminated against as being dumb, or just plain not as important as a woman.  Times will change.

Now now, we must remember that there are both sides of things. We all know an asshole guy who is shallow and only interested in one thing. We also know a guy who is kind and honest who gets no where.

Just the same, we know a bunch of hypocritical bitches who claim to be looking for a nice guy but just want someone hot. At the same time, we also know of girls who are so kind and smart and overall great who are constantly burned by the first type of guy mentioned because he came off as one of good ones.

There are 2 sides to everything, we must be careful when making generalizations so as to not slip and become that which we hate...

>>36
Dude... wait... WHAT ?!

>>36 is a girl

The secret to women is:

You gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the woman.

>>39
Then those women take away both your money and power. Besides manlove is much better, enjoyable and easier.