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日本語 Japanese Ask Questions Thread 7

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-03 14:03

If you have a question about the language, ask it and fellow 4channers might see it and answer it for you.
日本の方からのご協力も大歓迎です。


■USEFUL TOOLS

Rikaichan
http://www.polarcloud.com/rikaichan/
A pop-up dictionary for Firefox that shows readings and definitions when you hover over words.

Rikaikun
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/jipdnfibhldikgcjhfnomkfpcebammhp
Same as above, but for Chrome.

Anki
http://ankisrs.net/
Flash card program mainly useful for vocab and kanji repetition. Can sync decks between computers and your phone.


■WEB-BASED DICTIONARIES

ALC
http://www.alc.co.jp/
Offers a web interface to the Eijirou dictionary, made for use in translation work.

kotobank
http://kotobank.jp/
Pretty good for J-J lookups. J-E/E-J definitions from Progressive.

Tangorin
http://tangorin.com/
The best interface to Jimu Buuriinu-sama's EDICT, which is a mess, so don't use this unless you have to.

weblio 類語辞典
http://thesaurus.weblio.jp/
It's an extensive thesaurus.

(If you want the best J-E/E-J dictionary, get an EPWING copy of Kenkyusha.)


■MEDIA

D-Addicts
http://d-addicts.com/forum/torrents.php
It's a horrible community, but it's THE go-to for drama series. Many variety shows turn up there as well.

JPopsuki
http://jpopsuki.eu/
It's a private music tracker with an extensive selection of just about everything.

KeyHoleTV
http://www.v2p.jp/video/english/
An application that lets you stream live TV in shit quality.

Tokyo Toshokan
https://www.tokyotosho.info/
anime anime anime anime anime


■PREVIOUS THREADS

See >>2 for links.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-22 8:32

>>719
correct >>720
as if Subject Verb = まるで Subject は Verb(た-form/る-form) かの様に

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-22 9:02

>>720
I see, i understand a little better now. I will ask more info to my teacher, because that is the first time i see か used in that way.


Many thanks friend

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-22 19:36

So...
 For an object that's near someone else or the speaker
 The "ko" syllable in "kore wa" would indicate that what you're talking about is closer to you. Which could be related to "this" in english
 Similarily, is sore wa where it's closer to who you're speaking to which is comparable to "that" in english
 But reading further I learned of a knew particle calledd
 "a" (are wa, asoko wa, etc.) which indicated neirness to neither?
 What would I compare that too?
Same for "do" in "dore wa, dono, etc."

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-22 23:33

>>723
We learned demonstrative pronoun,at English class in Japan.
Eng - 2steps:(me)<- this -><------- that -------> far
Jpn - 3steps:(me)<--これ--><--それ--><---あれ---> far
これ - this / それ、あれ - that / どれ(どの) - which, どこ- where, どう-how

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-23 10:52

罰ゲームの取った場所は学校で病院で空港で温泉で他の場所もあります.

The places that were shot for the batsu games is, school, hospital, SPA, airport and there are other places.

Is this sentence correct?

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-23 12:52

>>725
No it reads like complete shit and no one wants to read your crap about the gakituka specials

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-23 12:55

>>723
Don't try to interpret grammar as a variant of another language's forms you stupid fucking kunt

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-23 13:31

>725
>The places that were shot for the batsu games is, school, hospital, SPA, airport and there are other places.
罰ゲームの為に撮影された場所は、学校、病院、温泉、空港やその他の場所があります。

>726
>727
I can't translate English now.
まあ、落ち着こうよ。他の板に比べて過疎気味だし、いろんな質問あってもいいんじゃないか?あんまり難しいのは俺答えられんし。(´・ω・`)
のんびりマッタリやろうよ。
とりあえず寝直すわ。

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-23 20:06

The difference between "that make them laugh" and "that will make them laugh" is marginal at most. As a native speaker, I feel that including "will" means it is absolutely definite that people will laugh, which is not necessarily true, and is better left out. Though that doesn't really help you with your Japanese, I guess.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-25 10:57

Hey all, i got a question for you.

Is it gramatically correct to use the ~たりする Form  like this?

Example:

Make A wash dishes, eat vegetables, do homework etc..

Aに お皿を洗わせたり野菜を食べさせたり宿題をさせたりさせてあげます。

thanks

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-25 18:55

>>730
usually, "~たりする" is used with Verbs "連用形(た-form?)".
Example:
彼女は飲んだり食べたりしている。She is doing eat and drink.
彼は行ったり来たりしている。 He is doing come and go.

Make A wash dishes, eat vegetables, do homework etc..
Aに お皿を洗わせたり野菜を食べさせたり宿題をさせたりします。
I think, "させてあげます" is OK, but "させてあげる" include meaning "I can allow do something".
if you will use "させてあげる", English sentence is "Let A do something" is better.

Name: 731 2013-06-25 19:07

>>730
I read dictionary. "make" can use forcibly and un-forcibly? if this is true, I'm wrong.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-25 19:53

>>732

No, "make" generally means you force them. If there's a meaning that doesn't involve forcing, I can't think of it. させてあげる is pretty much always going to mean "allow".

>>730
Just to expand on what >>731 says, it doesn't make sense to double up させる. Generally たり is just going to use する, so you put させる on the verbs which you are making them do.

Name: 731 2013-06-25 20:49

>>733
Thanks for your answer. I understand.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-27 13:06

>>696
I got 25/30, 28 with oral, and 24 written test, and the teacher gave me 25..i wish it was 26, i got 26 on first and second exam too. ruined my score, curse her!

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-27 13:22

http://imgur.com/JbDUcLD

I need help translating these words especially the top one and the bottom one

Name: Lisa 2013-06-27 15:29

Hello... I am sorry for the interruption, but I was directed here by /jp/  Can anyone please tell me what this word is? It is a friend's and we don't know what it says.

here is the link to the picture on /jp/
http://images.4chan.org/jp/src/1372360631461.jpg

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-27 17:00

>>736
イケメン
こわいけど
よろしく(笑)
月語迷いすぎ

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-27 17:02

>>737
Looks lije 喜 (happiness)

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-27 19:15

>>736
maybe
イケメン handsome guy
こわいけど It's scary, but
よろしく(笑)I'm counting on you.(lol)
日記送りすぎ  I'm so sending diary,too

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-27 19:37

>>735
>I got 25/30,
That's passable enough.
Teacher would pointed out your mistake, and you should be review of she's suggestion.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-27 20:23

How would you describe your friend telling you something?

"Yesterday, my friend suggested we learn Korean!"
”昨日、僕の友の話だと、韓国語を勉強しましょう!”

Is this correct?

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-27 20:32

>>742
No.

昨日、僕の友達は韓国語を勉強しようと勧めてくれた。
昨日、僕の友達に韓国語を勉強することを勧められた。
etc. etc.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-27 20:40

>>743
thanks

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-28 10:02

This is maybe a weird question but does anyone here write with a fountain pen? If so, what nib width do you use?

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-28 11:41

Is 「理解せ!」 an imperative form of 「理解する」?

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-28 17:22

>>746
「理解する」's imperative form is 理解せよor理解しろ.
does the word have 振り仮名(add kana to Chinese characters)?

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-28 17:52

>>745
for what it's worth...
I usually use mechanical pencil(0.5mm width) or ball-point pen(0.5mm-0.7mm width).
I use fountain pen when I must write formally something( curriculum vitae etc.). but my fountain pen is very cheap, so ink leakage is terrible.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-29 23:08

>>747

So the 「よ」 from 「理解せよ」 doesn't function as a gobi?

There were no furigana's attached.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-29 23:13

>>747

I see, but is the よ from that xxせよ no longer functions as a gobi?

There were no furigana's attached.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-29 23:48

>>747

「理解(りかい)せよ」
「理解(りかい)しろ」

furigana(振り仮名): りかい
okurigana(送り仮名): せ、し

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-30 3:12

>>750
In case of intransitive Verb, the word can use "~せ" without "よ".
ex. 話す(はな-す:speak) -> imperative form: 話せ

In this case, 理解 is transitive Verb.
(理解 : Noun,  理解する:transitive Verb)
imperative form of transitive Verb must use "せよ" or "しろ".
can not use "せ" only.
(more correctly, する's  imperative form. 理解せよ/理解しろ/理解しなさい etc..)

if "理解せ" has no furigana's, maybe it is misspell.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-30 4:04

>>40
The best way is what you're doing. The kanjis all share the same writing pattern, you should focus on learning to write the radicals. If you know how to write the radicals you'll be able to write all the kanjis, since they're all basically made of radicals put together.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-30 14:39

Does anyone else see romaji when they read something in kana? Will this go away with time?

Name: 752 2013-06-30 16:07

Ah! I'm wrong! 話す is  transitive Verb. very very sorry.

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-01 9:17

>>754
It does go away with time. At least, it did for me.

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-01 16:22

せよ is a form of する. It is not せ+よ, at least not in modern Japanese. You can't break it up.

It also doesn't have anything to do with transitivity, it's just する.

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-02 17:53

You can see your dick?
あなたは、あなたのペニスを見ることができますか?

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-02 23:37

It's incredibly unnatural, but it's technically grammatically correct. What are you asking this?

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-03 9:43

I have a doubt about expressing needs.

For example, I'm almost out of tea and I make a comment that "I need to buy more tea", implying that for some reason I'm kind of screwed without tea. Would that be some situation where I would use the なければならない? Or a situation that something urgent came up, and I want to communicate the people I'm with that I must leave, but without touching on the subject of why, should I use it too?

And about the short なきゃ form? Is it too informal? And ない shortened forms like ん and ぬ? I've seen in many media people speak なければならん for example.

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