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日本語 Japanese Ask Questions Thread 4

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-09 8:07

If you have a question about the language, ask it and fellow 4channers might see it and answer it for you.


Japanese Ask Questions Thread2
http://dis.4chan.org/read/lang/1206158123/1-40

Japanese Ask Questions Thread3
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Name: Anonymous 2011-07-27 18:34

I'm looking for PDFs of Kanji in Context. I can't find any on the boards or in requests or in torrents.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-27 18:35

I'm looking for PDFs of Kanji in Context. I can't find any on the boards or in requests or in torrents.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-27 18:36

I'm looking for PDFs of Kanji in Context. I can't find any on the boards or in requests or in torrents.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-27 18:36

I'm sorry for posting many times, I thought the reply button didn't work.

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-27 21:13

I don't know if this is the right board for this but I'm interested in learning Japanese. I'm trying to self teach myself right now however I'm getting pretty deep into my lessons and wouldn't mind some supplemental stuff on the side that really helps out. Anyone know of good games or Japanese children's programming that might help.

I kind of stumbled into learning Japanese by accident when I borrowed my roommates copy of "My Japanese Coach" for the DS. However after I popped it in I was hooked and want to seriously learn the language.

Suggestions? Thanks. Also sorry if this would be better suited to another board but I figured you were all knowledgeable about this

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-28 20:36

>>325
1.Learn hiragana and katakana.
2. Play any DS game you want, unless its obviously targeted towards adults (you'll spend more time looking up kanji than you will learning vocab and grammar). I'd recommend trying Pokemon, if that's your thing.
3. You're not going to know 99% of the words used.
4. Use an online dictionary to learn the words that are going to be necessary for play (こうげきりょく ぼうえいりょく にげる etc.)
5. Look up the associated kanji
6. Turn off your DS
7. Buy a textbook or Japanese novel

Name: Anonymous 2011-07-29 3:52

>>325
>>326

The Zelda DS games are also great for learning, you touch a word and it gives you the furigana.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-04 4:11

What's up with the kanji 社? Sometimes I see it as ネ + 土 and sometimes with 示 + 土. Is a font somehow fucked up or what is it? Haven't noticed anything like this with other kanji.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-04 5:02

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-05 2:08

Guys, do you have a link to japanexe tales and such? I remember thetr was one good site that provided not just text, but also audio versions of tales, but can't remember link. First story was about childless pair and dog that found coins then dog was taken by force and killed by greedy bastard.

Name: minaduki 2011-08-05 10:05

I make the bulletin board which can talk with an overseas person willingly.
(I am in the middle of making it)

http://www.bb-cafe.info/

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-05 10:06

I make the bulletin board which can talk with an overseas person willingly.
(I am in the middle of making it)

http://www.bb-cafe.info/

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-05 11:01

>>332
>The server encountered an internal error () that prevented it from fulfilling this request.

Looks like you still need some work

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-05 13:33

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-05 19:23

>>40
What is the problem with Kanjidamage?

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-06 0:03

>>335
Dude that was 4 months ago. Also nothing,. Kanjidamage is great.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-06 14:57

I wan't to say "As long as I am president, this incident will not happen again". Which of the below is more correct?

「私は大統領である限り、この事故は再び起こらないと確保します。」
「私は大統領として勤める限り、この事故は再び起こらないと確保します」

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-06 15:27

>>337
Heh heh, you sound like a real cocker. Heheheheh.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-06 17:15

私”が”大統領であるかぎり、このような事故は二度と起こさせません。

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-06 18:24

>>339
That's "I will not allow this KIND of incident to occur again", which is very different from  >>337 wants to say.
Aside from the ga-particle, both are correct.
>>338
Are you retarded?

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-07 4:16

>>340
yeah >>339is "I will not allow this KIND of incident to occur again" that's true.
but no difference between >>337 want to say.
that's kind of japanese idiomatic thing.

when representative guarantees against accident which representative is not directly responsible for
representative may use "起こさせない”
if representative have direct responsibility representative use”起こさない”

and この、あの point a specific thing
in this case この事故 have passed and never occur completely same incident.so there is no afraid of the incident.
but afraid of that kind of incident is still there.
so use このような、あのような

逆にオレの英語をなおしてください><

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-07 9:12

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-07 9:13

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-07 9:23

Just one question, real quick; would be eternally grateful for an answer:

I'm learning kanji for my first time through Kanjidamage. Should I just try to memorise the keyword, onyomi & mnemonic, or should I learn the kunyomi as well?

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-07 11:56

>>341
理論が分かっているのですが、代表が結果を支配できない場合には「起こらない」を使うのは完全に間違っていないでしょう?
例えば、環境災害の場合には、何が起こっても、それは誰も支配できないことでしょう?
だから代表は「こうしたことを起こさせない」とか「こうしたことを起こせない」と言うと彼は事故の結果に対して責任を持つ事と関係がありません。
だから「出来る限り、こうした災害が二度と再び起こらないようにします」というのは理論的で文法的に正しくないですか?

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-07 12:24

>>345
すばらしいですね。そのとおりです。
起こる、起こらないを使うと勝手にそのようになる印象を与えてしまうため大統領が何かを宣言するにはふさわしくないと感じたのです。

もちろん「出来る限り、こうした災害が二度と再び起こらないようにします」
のように少し消極的な言い方も正しいです。
天災(環境災害)の場合に使うなら最もふさわしいかもしれません。

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-07 12:35

So apparently to make a long vowel you need to add either あ (for an extended 'a'), い (for an extended 'i' or 'e') or う (for an extended 'o' or 'u') after a consonant-vowel letter. That means せい is not read 'say', but 'seh', as in せんせい.

So how is the sound 'say' made? If the letter い comes after a consonant-vowel that ends with either an 'i' or 'e' sound do you always prolong the vowel?

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-07 13:11

せい is read as 'say'
reading せんせい as センセー'seh' is not official pronunciation.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-07 13:44

>>347
>>348
Kind of. A long vowel is just that: the lengthening of the vowel proceeding. You are correct that せい is not read as せ and い separately but as a long せー. Stop trying to Romanize how its pronounced in English, as this will only confuse you. Because English pronunciation is not bound to any standard, "say" "seih" "sā" are all the same but none of them exactly equate to the sound せい. If you're still having trouble, find some audio and listen for long vowels.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-07 18:27

KISAMA WA TSUYOKUNAI

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-07 18:44

>>350
SHOUMEI SHITE KURE YO

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-08 4:28

SEKAI NO SUBETE GA KAMISAMA NO ICHIBU SORE GA SHINTO

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-08 9:14

Which number system is used where in Japan today? Are the Arabic numerals used in technical texts? Are the Japanese numbers still used colloquially?

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-08 11:13

>>353
You'll see numerals on just about everything. Japanese numbers are really only used on things that are connected with tradition, history, etc. Go to a shrine, you'll see Japanese. Go to a super market, you'll see numerals.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-08 11:55

>>352
NANI NI TSUITE HANASHITERUNDA MOU
KYOUJIN GA INTANETTO WO TSUKAU NANTE KIITA KOTO NAINDA

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-08 17:36

How the hell do you memorise kunyomi?

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-08 18:44

>>356
With your brain.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-08 20:35

>>356
read mangas

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-09 7:45

>>356
read a Japanese KANJI dictionary

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-09 13:57

>>356
LEARN TO READ

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