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Norsk, Norwegian

Name: Tiejaz 2009-02-05 23:38

If you have any recommendations for an english speaker who wants to learn norwegian, please send it to my email? That would be badass.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-06 10:00

Not your personal army.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-06 11:17

>>2

What the fuck?

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 22:55

>>1

Just give up. English speakers are in the same position when it comes to learning a new language as the Japanese. That position is called hopeless.

I know English speakers that have lived in Norway for years and years, who've had a real interest in learning Norwegian and studied hard. But, no matter what they do, they cannot rid themselves of their accent, and end up talking like total retards.

Do yourself a favor and do something with your life that does not involve trying to learn a new language.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-21 3:14

>>4

It's not a complete impossibility, it simply means there's a chance for you to be the first one to succeed.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-21 6:58

>>4
so who cares if you have an accent?

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-21 7:28

As >>4 said, native English speakers that were raised in a monolingual environment are notoriously bad at learning languages.

>>6
Sounding like a tard means they treat you like a tard.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-21 7:58

>>4
English speakers have the same attitude when it comes to learning a new language as everyone else in the world. This attitude involves being a lazy, indisciplined fuck who gives up after the first throwback and is far too dogmatic in their approach. The only advantage Europeans have is the close proximity to foreign countries and therefore foreign languages and the cultural dominance that English has due to the cultural exports of the USA.
Stop looking for excuses, which make the possible impossible.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-21 9:04

>>8
"English speakers have the same attitude when it comes to learning a new language as everyone else in the world. This attitude involves being a lazy, indisciplined fuck who gives up after the first throwback and is far too dogmatic in their approach."

You described the typical English speaker trying to learn a language. You did not describe "everyone else in the world".

"The only advantage Europeans have is the close proximity to foreign countries and therefore foreign languages"

Most retarded thing I've read all week, you must be an Amerifag. You wouldn't be the first Amerifag that believes in the magical United States of Europe either.

"Stop looking for excuses, which make the possible impossible."

I don't think >>4 was "looking for excuses", they just consider native English speakers to be linguistically inept. Which is true, empirically speaking.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-21 9:48

>>9
I think >>8 was just annoyed at how belittling that was to all native English speakers and so reacting in kind, i.e. with equal use of broad generalization and stupidity.

OK, probably not intentionally but hey. It's worth thinking about.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-21 10:49

>>4 here.

I wasn't inferring that native English speakers are stupid or anything like that, just that they - or at least 99,99 % of them - cannot pronounce any other sound-/word-constructions but those that exist in the English language.

There might be two reasons for this:

1) The language is constructed in such a way that its pronunciation is too different from other languages, making those other pronunciations hard to learn after having grown up with English only.

2) Whereas pretty much every country in the world but USA and UK get alot of linguistic influence from other languages, be it in the form of TV, radio, tourism, travel, etc., USA and UK hardly has any of this, as far as I can tell.

If you look at Japanese, for example, they are even worse at learning new languages than English-speaking people, even though they have a lot of English everywhere. Why? Probably because their entire pronunciation system consists of the kana tables, and thus they find it hard to pronounce anything but the sounds within that system.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-21 11:10

>>7
>Sounding like a tard means they treat you like a tard.

Native Norwegian here. People who know you won't care. People you don't know will either not care either (rare) or be fucking awkward trying not to comment on your accent. Sort of like you'd behave next to a black guy while attending World Anti-Racism Conference or something.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-21 11:45

>>9
Actually I'm german and the attitude I described applies to tons of people I have met, be it germans, british people or former yugoslavs, it's even the same on the internet when you see how many people think that AJATT is the shit, so they try it and fai.
I have no idea what you mean with the "magical United States of Europe", but it sure is nice to go France, Italy, Spain, Poland or Denmark etc. with no border at all.
I don't think you can speak empirically on that point.
I've yet to meet a person that is better at aquiring new languages because it has a certain one as mother tongue, it all comes down on how much work you put into it and how much you actually use the language.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-21 13:01

>>13
1) You know lots of losers then.
2) Proximity to native speakers of a language does not make you magically learn their language. Some Brits and Americans spend decades living in Japan and never learn anything beyond kon'nichi-fucking-wa.
3) English speakers never try hard enough. Knowing English natively makes you a lazy fuck. All native English speakers I've met irl never mastered the local language even after living here for decades. Shitty accent, shitty vocab. Iranians on the other hand learn the language in a couple of years even though they come from an entirely different linguistic background.

inb4 "i iz an amerifag & i has mastered moonspeak lololol"
Congrats, you're the exception to the rule. You're a special individual that deserves to get his cock sucked by a 100 virgins.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-21 13:08

>>14

>>4/>>11 here. I just want to say that I want to perform fellatio on your delicious cock, and swallow afterwards (this is not sarcasm, just my method of complimenting).

/end circlejerk

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-21 14:56

>>14
1) That may be the case.
2) But it makes learning easier and it's necessary for languages which don't have that much of cultural output. If you/they don't use it, it's their fault.
3) That is because you can get by with only English. They work in Eikawas, are housed there and have their peer group. Iranians however are fucked if they emigrate to America/GB and don't speak English . They can't get a job, they can't get shelter and they can't buy food. Guess what they're going to do about it? While I agree with your statement that English speakers may lapse into laziness and procrastination in the language department since their tongue is widely understood it doesn't make it harder for them to learn other languages than it is for people with a different mother tongue.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-21 16:08

yanks are too fucking stupid to learn a foreign language, agreed.

however why would you go through the trouble of learning japanese if you don't plan on staying there for the rest of your life. learning japanese is not like learning french or dutch. you need years of daily studying before you can even say things like konnichi-fucking-ha.

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